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Okay we're going to start cracking down on people bashing players for no reason. You don't have to like every player, but at least show some respect. (as of page 402)
Shaxe
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands590 Posts
June 05 2011 02:50 GMT
#17041
KR is such an otaku, and so am I coz I know who he just mentioned...
ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
June 05 2011 02:50 GMT
#17042
On June 05 2011 11:49 mpf189 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:48 Asshat wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:45 sermokala wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:35 Medrea wrote:
*switches over to FPS stream*

*Everybody still just nonstop jumps and shit*

"Nope Nothing for me here!"



Its really not halo's pretty much at the level of bw with the level of mechanics at the top.


I'm not exactly an expert in halo or anything but from the very little I watched it's one of the slowest FPS's I've ever seen.


Ever play counter-strike lol? Halo is on steroids compared to CS

I hope you're joking. I mean, the game has to help you aim at your opponents ffs, how can you say this???
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 05 2011 02:50 GMT
#17043
On June 05 2011 11:49 HCastorp wrote:
And just as I type that, they post the rest of the bracket

All four Liquid players in the same one - wow that's gotta hurt.

LOL bad luck. Still systematic though so it's not like MLG's being malicious or anything
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 05 2011 02:50 GMT
#17044
Select versus qxc x-x
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
June 05 2011 02:50 GMT
#17045
On June 05 2011 11:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:48 Dante08 wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:46 Golgotha wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:45 sermokala wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:35 Medrea wrote:
*switches over to FPS stream*

*Everybody still just nonstop jumps and shit*

"Nope Nothing for me here!"



Its really not halo's pretty much at the level of bw with the level of mechanics at the top.



level of bw mechanics? someone call the doctor!


LOLOLOL troll or insane?


I facepalmed so hard. Same level as BW?
Someone hasn't ever played BW.



The argument with Halo should've just ended at

"LOL CONSOLE SHOOTER"
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 05 2011 02:51 GMT
#17046
On June 05 2011 11:50 ZidaneTribal wrote:
who eliminated JF?

ONEwbc
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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sleigh bells
Profile Joined April 2011
United States358 Posts
June 05 2011 02:51 GMT
#17047
On June 05 2011 11:49 Chainfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:47 Ocedic wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:43 Chainfire99 wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:38 sleigh bells wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:35 Chainfire99 wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:31 Golgotha wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:29 Chainfire99 wrote:
Bragging rights? It's not a fair competition. You have pro Korean players who can make a living off of competing in the game...they can afford to practice 60+ hrs a week in gaming houses with several other similarly skilled teammates and coaches overseeing everything. The majority of non-Korean "pros" aren't ableto do the same. Practice and hard work is everything.

IMO the Koreans aren't dominating enough, they shouldn't lose a game EVER.


^lol you clearly do not understand the game very well. Even IDRA said that there it is very difficult to completely dominate the game as a player with near perfect consistency. And yet, the Koreans are showing that they are a cut above the rest. Don't be mad at me be mad at the stats

Korea fighting!!!!!!



yea but you're a fool. It's cool that you are a proud Korean but your arrogance is off-putting. It's like watching Brock Lesnar beat the crap out of a young heavyweight with far less experience in mma and rubbing in the inevitable beat down in everyone's faces.

Koreans aren't better because of their ethnicity...they aren't special outside of their great and fortunate environment that they are exposed to. If Non-Koreans could afford team houses and to be able to practice 60+ hrs a week then there would be ZERO difference in skill.

holy shit, you'd be a buzzkill to watch the olympics with



Until someone can show me a report where it proves that Koreans have some kind of unique gene specific to their ethnicity that makes them better than non-Koreans at playing sc2 (hand speed/multi-tasking/reaction time) than the skill gap between them and others around the world is due to a unique environment. Starcraft is huge in South Korea. It is big money over there thus Koreans can grow up practicing because being a pro gamer is a more viable career than anywhere else in the world. The more hours you put into something the better you become generally speaking. They say it takes 10,000 hrs till someone becomes an expert in whatever endeavor they undertake. I guarantee you that on average Koreans are closer to that mark then their foreign colleagues. Being able to practice for far more hours with similarly excellently skilled players will make you better on average than those who don't. This is all common sense. So all the denial and gloating is foolish.


You're so dumb. No, Koreans are not genetically superior at StarCraft. The vast majority of people do not claim this.

Yes, Koreans tend to do better because of more practice. So what's your point? You could say "If I practiced chess/Counterstrike/archery/whatever as much as the top competitors, I would be a top competitor!" What does that even prove? It just means other put in the time and you don't. Saying they practice more doesn't take away from them being better.



I am pointing this out to the fools who think that foreigners are as good or better than Koreans overall. You are a very obnoxious poster.

lol now i don't even...
Sup son? ¯\__(ツ)__/¯
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
June 05 2011 02:51 GMT
#17048
On June 05 2011 11:49 Domination wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:42 udgnim wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:39 bluestuff wrote:
I always wondered why MLG doesn't incorporate any fighting games like Marvel vs Capcom 3, which has alot of drama and a thriving community :/


fighting game communities are very loyal, but they aren't very large

they have Evo which will draw a lot of people, but all their other major events don't even come close to the amount of people that SC2 or Halo draws

That's not why.

MLG has tried for the last 2 years to get Capcom games (which are the biggest games in the fighting game community) on the circuit and Capcom has shot them down. Sundance came out and said that the reason why is Capcom is afraid that MLG holding tournaments 5 weekends a year will hurt the homegrown tournament scene.


their loss...
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 05 2011 02:51 GMT
#17049
On June 05 2011 11:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:48 Dante08 wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:46 Golgotha wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:45 sermokala wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:35 Medrea wrote:
*switches over to FPS stream*

*Everybody still just nonstop jumps and shit*

"Nope Nothing for me here!"



Its really not halo's pretty much at the level of bw with the level of mechanics at the top.



level of bw mechanics? someone call the doctor!


LOLOLOL troll or insane?


I facepalmed so hard. Same level as BW?
Someone hasn't ever played BW.


Halo is one of the slower shooters around. And do not even get me started on the multitasking differences between the two.
twitch.tv/medrea
isM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States735 Posts
June 05 2011 02:51 GMT
#17050
On June 05 2011 11:49 sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:46 Golgotha wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:45 sermokala wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:35 Medrea wrote:
*switches over to FPS stream*

*Everybody still just nonstop jumps and shit*

"Nope Nothing for me here!"



Its really not halo's pretty much at the level of bw with the level of mechanics at the top.



level of bw mechanics? someone call the doctor!


4 guys moveing and fighting together and the sheer skill difference between good across the map no scope snipers and the newbs that get just a pixel to the right? yeah thats at bw levels.


no its not, I don't really know what else to tell you. More of the skill in Halo comes from communication/teamwork than through mechanics.
Loose lips sink ships
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
June 05 2011 02:51 GMT
#17051
On June 05 2011 11:49 mpf189 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:48 Asshat wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:45 sermokala wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:35 Medrea wrote:
*switches over to FPS stream*

*Everybody still just nonstop jumps and shit*

"Nope Nothing for me here!"



Its really not halo's pretty much at the level of bw with the level of mechanics at the top.


I'm not exactly an expert in halo or anything but from the very little I watched it's one of the slowest FPS's I've ever seen.


Ever play counter-strike lol? Halo is on steroids compared to CS


What does that have to do with Halo = BW mechanics?
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Balthazar
Profile Joined February 2011
United States277 Posts
June 05 2011 02:51 GMT
#17052
I wonder who the "NICE RAX" poster is directed to...
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 02:51:44
June 05 2011 02:51 GMT
#17053
On June 05 2011 11:50 Daozzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:48 Dante08 wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:46 Golgotha wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:45 sermokala wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:35 Medrea wrote:
*switches over to FPS stream*

*Everybody still just nonstop jumps and shit*

"Nope Nothing for me here!"



Its really not halo's pretty much at the level of bw with the level of mechanics at the top.



level of bw mechanics? someone call the doctor!


LOLOLOL troll or insane?


I facepalmed so hard. Same level as BW?
Someone hasn't ever played BW.



The argument with Halo should've just ended at

"LOL CONSOLE SHOOTER"

Compared to CS it's like typing with your elbows. I dont know why anyone would care who is best at something like that.
Kammalleri
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada613 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 02:52:01
June 05 2011 02:51 GMT
#17054
Overall thoughts on pool play...

Group A had lots of awesome games. Except Gretorp the other players made up for some really awesome games, it looked like anyone could beat anyone. Fenix who came from open bracket did really good in the group as well.

Gretorp if you're completely out of shape, do like painuser and just don't sign up for the tournament or ask to be seeded in the open bracket cause in the pool play you just look like a joke.

Pretty impressed with Drewbie's play despite his 2-3 record, he really had some bad breaks in his matches.

Group B, can't start with anything else then total disappointment for Kiwikaki. He's my favorite player in the tournament and with the way he;s been playing i EG masters cup I thought he could take his group or really close to. I still believe he can come back thru the open bracket and finish among the top. It looks like he just doesn't react well in some situations he usually does really well in. He loses after taking the lead or just do an early mistake and lose.

That said it's a really tough group. Even Moonan is a pretty solid player and he was outmatched. All 5 players in the group are really great players and all have a chance to cause some damage tomorrow.

Group C is just completely sick. Select just like Kiwikaki was a played I really was looking for at MLG just like I do at every tourny he enters. I didn't get to see much of him, but god is this pool tough. Every players in it to me has a chance to actually win the whole thing. Idra beatig MC is sick, Thorzain vs Idra was great. I would have liked to see more of Tyler that's for sure. Thorzain coming right in from the open bracket and doing really well.

Group D Gotta be impressed with Major's performance, he made i don't remember who look like a noobie to make it to the pools and it looks like he did really good once he got in the pool against some really good player. The pool overall looked more like crowd favorite than player who actually have shown consistent great result lately(Incontrol 4th at MLG being the only good result i'd say)

Looking at Losira play is always amazing for me. Love how the guy plays and seeing him lose first round in GSL championship was pretty sad, at least he gets to show what he's got at MLG. It'll be awesome to see how he does against other first seed players in the winner bracket.

Caaaaan't wait for tomorrow!! Gonna be sick.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 02:52:08
June 05 2011 02:51 GMT
#17055
On June 05 2011 11:40 MoonBear wrote:
Match 1: MLG`Tal'Darim Altar
(T)Fnatic.Msi`KawaiiRice vs (T)FXO`mOoNan

(T)Fnatic.Msi`KawaiiRice spawns as the Blue Terran @5
(T)FXO`mOoNan spawns as the Red Terran @7

Shoutouts from both players in the [All Chat]. Kawaii gives a shoutout to Mizuki Nana, Moonan one to his gf.

Mizuki <3
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
June 05 2011 02:51 GMT
#17056
All 4 Liquid players in one bracket. What type of luck is that? That is just wrong lol.
mpf189
Profile Joined March 2011
332 Posts
June 05 2011 02:51 GMT
#17057
On June 05 2011 11:50 ihavetofartosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:49 mpf189 wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:48 Asshat wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:45 sermokala wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:35 Medrea wrote:
*switches over to FPS stream*

*Everybody still just nonstop jumps and shit*

"Nope Nothing for me here!"



Its really not halo's pretty much at the level of bw with the level of mechanics at the top.


I'm not exactly an expert in halo or anything but from the very little I watched it's one of the slowest FPS's I've ever seen.


Ever play counter-strike lol? Halo is on steroids compared to CS

I hope you're joking. I mean, the game has to help you aim at your opponents ffs, how can you say this???


I mean the pace of the game..in CS, it's very slow paced compared to Halo.
RedDragon571
Profile Joined March 2011
United States633 Posts
June 05 2011 02:51 GMT
#17058
Its odd that when people discuss koreans vs foreigners, that all of the koreans do play sc2 FOR A LIVING, while the majority of foreigners play sc2 AS A HOBBIE. The difference in results needs no other explanation imo.
Radical
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States481 Posts
June 05 2011 02:52 GMT
#17059
On June 05 2011 11:49 mpf189 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:48 Asshat wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:45 sermokala wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:35 Medrea wrote:
*switches over to FPS stream*

*Everybody still just nonstop jumps and shit*

"Nope Nothing for me here!"



Its really not halo's pretty much at the level of bw with the level of mechanics at the top.


I'm not exactly an expert in halo or anything but from the very little I watched it's one of the slowest FPS's I've ever seen.


Ever play counter-strike lol? Halo is on steroids compared to CS

Halo is slow compared to games like Quake. It's also a pretty crappy game, and only on MLG because of its mass appeal.
svi
Profile Joined October 2010
405 Posts
June 05 2011 02:52 GMT
#17060
the only thing this tournament proved is that only idra (maybe slush too, because he beat moon but moon isn't code a/s) can compete with the top koreans which is something we already knew from past GSL's.

the rest of north america is extremely overrated (kiwikaki for instance) and can't compare with the koreans and the top europeans.
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