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On June 05 2011 11:16 TheHova wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:13 Jyvblamo wrote:On June 05 2011 11:11 Telcontar wrote:On June 05 2011 11:10 spybreak wrote:On June 05 2011 11:09 Telcontar wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 Jyvblamo wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 spybreak wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 mjnbowlgod wrote:
gretorp has not won a series in 2 straight mlgs. That's ok he will still be seeded next MLG!!! Thank god for this format. This can't be true. Seriously? If gretorp can win at least 1 series in the championship rounds, yes he will STILL be seeded. ..... Well that is pretty stupid. Actually, I think he needs to win 2 series to survive. Not 100% sure, someone correct me please. Still... 2 wins in two MLG's and you get seeded? Pathetic format. Doesn't iNcontroL have less than 45% win rate in every matchup and is seeded 4th?
He played well enough to earn 4th place in MLG. That is more than enough. Players aren't always going to be consistent you know.
Incontrol was never really consistent in BW either. His team would do pretty well in clan/nation wars though.
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On June 05 2011 11:18 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:10 wei2coolman wrote:On June 05 2011 11:06 Blasphemi wrote:On June 05 2011 11:05 wei2coolman wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Quit making excuses for Koreans. Freaking hate this. First its the server lags from cross country, then MLG decides to fly Koreans over for LAN, BUT NOOOOO That's not good enough for you. Now they have jet lag. Freaking deal with it. Top foreigners can easily take out Koreans, they aren't fucking Gods. Excuses? Koreans have destroyed foreigners so far. Yeah, you're including the wins of the tier 2 Foreigners, maybe if Gomtv sent over tier 2 koreans, we can start talking about wins and shit. But as far as I'm concerned the Top top foreigners are doing REALLY REALLY well against the Top foreigners, stop trying to feign Korean dominance when there isn't any. Who are the top top foreigners? The pool of top top foreigners seems to change everytime a Korean crushes one of them. Literally the only victory a top foreigner has over a Korean (minus the substandard Moon) is MC/Idra. Compare that with Losira over Incontrol, July over Sjow, MMA over Sjow, MC over Tyler, MC over Select, MC over Thorzain, Losira over TLO, MMA over Kiwikaka, July over Kiwikaki and I really fail to see how 'top foreigners' have competed well at all. This is the part where you pretend players like Select and Kiwikaki are not top foreigners so go ahead.
I think most people agree top foreigners are like Thorzain, Naniwa, IdrA, Morrow, White-Ra, Dimaga, Huk, and couple other players.
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Morrow falling out of yet another tournament cuz of his ZvZ =/ he realy needs to work on that.
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On June 05 2011 11:15 Rhokdar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:11 sermokala wrote:On June 05 2011 11:10 TheBrofessor wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 StyLeD wrote:On June 05 2011 11:06 redFF wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Well Moon is an average korean and he lost a bit. And the other 4 are without a doubt 4 of the very best players in Korea. If these guys were only playing 4 of the top top top foreigners e.g. IdrA, Thorzain, Nani and Whitera, I'm sure the results would be fairly balanced. The koreans are playing people who are not on their level and not the best the foreign scene have to offer. Ofcourse all of these code s calibre players are pwning random foreigners, but the best of the best are still fairly equal in my opinion. Uh, no. The foreigners you mentioned are the best of the best foreigners. The Koreans sent to MLG are 2nd tier (-MC) compared to the likes of MVP and especially Nestea. Nice try though... MMA, Losira and July are not second tier. top teir being MC Nestea and MVP then yes they are. So Korea has 3 top tier players?
the whole point of having a top tier is to make it exclusive, if you have a bunch of people as top tier then its not really the top tier, why go to the vip section of a club if it is filled with half the hoodrats in the club
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On June 05 2011 11:16 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:13 setzer wrote:On June 05 2011 11:10 wei2coolman wrote:On June 05 2011 11:06 Blasphemi wrote:On June 05 2011 11:05 wei2coolman wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Quit making excuses for Koreans. Freaking hate this. First its the server lags from cross country, then MLG decides to fly Koreans over for LAN, BUT NOOOOO That's not good enough for you. Now they have jet lag. Freaking deal with it. Top foreigners can easily take out Koreans, they aren't fucking Gods. Excuses? Koreans have destroyed foreigners so far. Yeah, you're including the wins of the tier 2 Foreigners, maybe if Gomtv sent over tier 2 koreans, we can start talking about wins and shit. But as far as I'm concerned the Top top foreigners are doing REALLY REALLY well against the Top foreigners, stop trying to feign Korean dominance when there isn't any. 21-3 is quite dominant ignoring the lower tier koreans in MLG that went 0-5 I see.
Did you miss the entire page of posts explaining why your original post was really stupid?
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On June 05 2011 11:18 Cryhavoc wrote:well he is busy with his new sponsors i guess didnt event show NASL
I'M SO SADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I WANT PAPATOSS
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On June 05 2011 11:14 Whiteman103 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:13 Ocedic wrote:On June 05 2011 11:09 Balthazar wrote:On June 05 2011 11:06 Troopi wrote:On June 05 2011 11:05 Zeri wrote:![[image loading]](http://c0013799.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_66d301b) More flooding! From sundance's twitter... Seriously MLG has the worst luck LoL what happened? IdrA pissed his pants after MC called him out. This quote deserves more attention. yes, yes it does for how not funny it is.
I'm sure a blind Idra fanboy wouldn't find it funny.
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On June 05 2011 11:16 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:13 setzer wrote:On June 05 2011 11:10 wei2coolman wrote:On June 05 2011 11:06 Blasphemi wrote:On June 05 2011 11:05 wei2coolman wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Quit making excuses for Koreans. Freaking hate this. First its the server lags from cross country, then MLG decides to fly Koreans over for LAN, BUT NOOOOO That's not good enough for you. Now they have jet lag. Freaking deal with it. Top foreigners can easily take out Koreans, they aren't fucking Gods. Excuses? Koreans have destroyed foreigners so far. Yeah, you're including the wins of the tier 2 Foreigners, maybe if Gomtv sent over tier 2 koreans, we can start talking about wins and shit. But as far as I'm concerned the Top top foreigners are doing REALLY REALLY well against the Top foreigners, stop trying to feign Korean dominance when there isn't any. 21-3 is quite dominant ignoring the lower tier koreans in MLG that went 0-5 I see.
Obviously if you take random Koreans they're not going to be good. Select and Moonan don't come from the Korean scene; they have zero success there, no one would claim that their genetics instantly make them superior.
The Korean scene is stronger than every other country put together. It's really not a big deal, there are still plenty of good non-Koreans and even the best Koreans can be beaten by some of the best foreigners, albeit they probably wouldn't be the favourite.
Edit: Before this gets misunderstood, I'm not calling these players random or bad, I'm pointing out that the mere fact that they're genetically Korean doesn't mean they should be put in together with the Korean scene.
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On June 05 2011 11:17 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:16 TheHova wrote:On June 05 2011 11:13 Jyvblamo wrote:On June 05 2011 11:11 Telcontar wrote:On June 05 2011 11:10 spybreak wrote:On June 05 2011 11:09 Telcontar wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 Jyvblamo wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 spybreak wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 mjnbowlgod wrote:
gretorp has not won a series in 2 straight mlgs. That's ok he will still be seeded next MLG!!! Thank god for this format. This can't be true. Seriously? If gretorp can win at least 1 series in the championship rounds, yes he will STILL be seeded. ..... Well that is pretty stupid. Actually, I think he needs to win 2 series to survive. Not 100% sure, someone correct me please. Still... 2 wins in two MLG's and you get seeded? Pathetic format. Doesn't iNcontroL have less than 45% win rate in every matchup and is seeded 4th? He came in 4th place last MLG ...
I'm well aware.
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So are the notable results in the OP not going to be updated anymore seeing as the poster is banned?
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On June 05 2011 11:18 Devolved wrote:
Cruncher, Vibe, QXC, KawaiiRice
VS.
Moonan, Gretorp, TLO, Select
Right? Just don't know who's playing who yet. Lots of Terrans. I wouldn't mind seing Cruncher vs. TLO.
Yes, its going to be pretty sick.
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:19 Majynx wrote:
So are the notable results in the OP not going to be updated anymore seeing as the poster is banned?
Ask a Mod I presume if any are around.
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On June 05 2011 11:13 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; ok annoying me now. I like how people are only counting the GSL invited koreans. Moonan went 0-5 and Select went 0-5.
The point in "Korea vs the world" has always been from players practicing in Korea, in korean teams. The only thing Select has in common with them is nationality, I would consider Jinro more "korean" than Select, for this kind of comparison.
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Poll: How Many Koreans Get Top 5?3 (43) 48% 4 (23) 26% 2 (11) 12% 5 (7) 8% 0 (4) 4% 1 (1) 1% 89 total votes Your vote: How Many Koreans Get Top 5? (Vote): 0
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I'm not sure why people are putting Losira up so high to win the whole thing. He is definitely capable and I wouldn't be shocked if he won, but I don't think he is the strongest. Winning group D also isn't too impressive when compared to the other 3.
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On June 05 2011 11:18 Balthazar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:14 Zeri wrote:On June 05 2011 11:13 Ocedic wrote:On June 05 2011 11:09 Balthazar wrote:On June 05 2011 11:06 Troopi wrote:On June 05 2011 11:05 Zeri wrote:More flooding! From sundance's twitter... Seriously MLG has the worst luck LoL what happened? IdrA pissed his pants after MC called him out. This quote deserves more attention. Nah it was actually a lame joke that he repeated already in the thread. .
Still a terrible a joke honestly :X
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On June 05 2011 11:08 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:06 redFF wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Well Moon is an average korean and he lost a bit. And the other 4 are without a doubt 4 of the very best players in Korea. If these guys were only playing 4 of the top top top foreigners e.g. IdrA, Thorzain, Nani and Whitera, I'm sure the results would be fairly balanced. The koreans are playing people who are not on their level and not the best the foreign scene have to offer. Ofcourse all of these code s calibre players are pwning random foreigners, but the best of the best are still fairly equal in my opinion. Uh, no. The foreigners you mentioned are the best of the best foreigners. The Koreans sent to MLG are 2nd tier (-MC) compared to the likes of MVP and especially Nestea. Nice try though...
....MMA, Losira and July are all top top tier Koreans. MVP, Nestea and MC are debatably the 3 best in the world but Losira, July and MMA can all beat those 3 and have done on occasion. So please just stop they are not second tier lol.
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On June 05 2011 11:18 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:15 Fionn wrote:On June 05 2011 11:13 Vimsey wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; ok annoying me now. I like how people are only counting the GSL invited koreans. Moonan went 0-5 and Select went 0-5. Neither of those play in the Korean scene. They're North American players. So by that logic TLO is now swedish, QXC is now spanish, Huk is now Korean and Demuslim is now German amoung others.
Your stupidity is painful...
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On June 05 2011 11:19 Majynx wrote:
So are the notable results in the OP not going to be updated anymore seeing as the poster is banned?
Usually a mod will continue to update.
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