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Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 12 2011 15:00 GMT
#921
On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote:
Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general.


yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple.


Don't worry, the bronze leaguers who post in LR threads are impressed by anything. It was just a sloppy game from both players.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
June 12 2011 15:00 GMT
#922
lol the player introduction is boss
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K_Dilkington
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden449 Posts
June 12 2011 15:02 GMT
#923
On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote:
Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general.


yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple.


haha nice delusions.
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by the age of 18
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 12 2011 15:02 GMT
#924
On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote:
Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general.


yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple.

no
really no

you miss the subtle things
mana scouted that entire thing with a sacrificial stalker because he suspected this exact strat, including scouting the no gas
he makes a sentry or two and camps them up at the ramp in case kas brings all his scvs, in which case mana can sack his expansion and FF the scv/marines
he uses not all but some of his stalkers to delay/whittle down the marines on the way
he then goes for a counter right before the 3rd goes up and the other 4 rax finish
i do agree that he lost 2-3 stalkers unnecessarily
but his handling the situation was extremely well done

but i guess any player can do it assuming they've come across the same exact strat many times over
lalala
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 12 2011 15:03 GMT
#925
On June 12 2011 23:59 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 23:58 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:57 Nerdslayer wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:56 ChickenLips wrote:
that was fucking awful

12 rax no gas, yeah good idea kas O____O


actually he took out socke earlier today with thyat build quite easy


didn't see those games, but even a gold player can micro sufficiently to kill that strategy.

maybe need plat to keep reinforcing with stalkers, but thats about it, insanely cheesy from kas

More importantly, Mana saw the 4 rax without any gas taken so he knew it was on the cards. If he had just gone robo off 3/2 gates, he would've been dead no matter how good his micro is.


No gas rushes can be held off without scouting and good micro, f.e. MC held it off with almost no problems. Against such a fast FE any good player will start chronoing stalkers to harass the shit out of it, and as long as you don't see a single marauder, you don't have to see the 200 rax with no addons in the main, you just keep on killing marines for free. If he puts down bunkers his timing is gone anyway.

This build = dumb and doesn't work against a P who knows what he's doing and has micro
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Intricacy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States218 Posts
June 12 2011 15:03 GMT
#926
On June 12 2011 23:59 tjhan wrote:
Justin.tv is so laggy, it's unwatchable for people in Asia.


VoDs will be available on Justin.tv after the tournament and on the http://www.youtube.com/totalhalibut

Sorry for the inconvenience in being able to view the event live.
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ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 12 2011 15:04 GMT
#927
btw, im so angry because i bet on Kas lmao, maybe trying to enjoy the games is a better BO than ranting on the forums
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 15:08:59
June 12 2011 15:05 GMT
#928
On June 13 2011 00:04 ChickenLips wrote:
btw, im so angry because i bet on Kas lmao, maybe trying to enjoy the games is a better BO than ranting on the forums

chill

he'll win
mana sucks*

*disclaimer: this is my opinion and should not be taken for truth
lalala
Lexxes
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden144 Posts
June 12 2011 15:05 GMT
#929
On June 12 2011 23:59 tjhan wrote:
Justin.tv is so laggy, it's unwatchable for people in Asia.


Im in philippines, and justin.tv works flawless, never had any troubles (480p)
If you dont do it, someone else will
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
June 12 2011 15:05 GMT
#930
somehow the stream doesnt work for me anymore. after the advertisement i only get a cinical brit logo. no sound, nothing is loading and i also cant change the quality
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 12 2011 15:06 GMT
#931
On June 13 2011 00:02 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote:
Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general.


yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple.

no
really no

you miss the subtle things
mana scouted that entire thing with a sacrificial stalker because he suspected this exact strat, including scouting the no gas
he makes a sentry or two and camps them up at the ramp in case kas brings all his scvs, in which case mana can sack his expansion and FF the scv/marines
he uses not all but some of his stalkers to delay/whittle down the marines on the way
he then goes for a counter right before the 3rd goes up and the other 4 rax finish
i do agree that he lost 2-3 stalkers unnecessarily
but his handling the situation was extremely well done

but i guess any player can do it assuming they've come across the same exact strat many times over


The biggest fail was him not bringing a probe with him for a proxy, that almost cost him an unlosable game.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 12 2011 15:06 GMT
#932
On June 13 2011 00:06 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 00:02 youngminii wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote:
Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general.


yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple.

no
really no

you miss the subtle things
mana scouted that entire thing with a sacrificial stalker because he suspected this exact strat, including scouting the no gas
he makes a sentry or two and camps them up at the ramp in case kas brings all his scvs, in which case mana can sack his expansion and FF the scv/marines
he uses not all but some of his stalkers to delay/whittle down the marines on the way
he then goes for a counter right before the 3rd goes up and the other 4 rax finish
i do agree that he lost 2-3 stalkers unnecessarily
but his handling the situation was extremely well done

but i guess any player can do it assuming they've come across the same exact strat many times over


The biggest fail was him not bringing a probe with him for a proxy, that almost cost him an unlosable game.

he did though
lalala
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 12 2011 15:06 GMT
#933
On June 13 2011 00:05 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 00:04 ChickenLips wrote:
btw, im so angry because i bet on Kas lmao, maybe trying to enjoy the games is a better BO than ranting on the forums

chill

he'll win
mana sucks


yeah the quality of decision making seems to have switched sides between games lol
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Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
June 12 2011 15:07 GMT
#934
On June 13 2011 00:00 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote:
Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general.


yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple.


Don't worry, the bronze leaguers who post in LR threads are impressed by anything. It was just a sloppy game from both players.


While I am an easily impressed and awful master league player who could do something similar against an equally bad player, I still find it entertaining to watch. It doesn't have to be difficult to make for a good show. Seeing Kas fall in such a convincing fashion at least left me in a shock.
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
June 12 2011 15:07 GMT
#935
On June 13 2011 00:05 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 00:04 ChickenLips wrote:
btw, im so angry because i bet on Kas lmao, maybe trying to enjoy the games is a better BO than ranting on the forums

chill

he'll win
mana sucks


Nice mouth u got there, Im sure ur better than Mana right, because he sucks right ?
Piggiez
Profile Joined March 2011
393 Posts
June 12 2011 15:07 GMT
#936
On June 13 2011 00:05 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 00:04 ChickenLips wrote:
btw, im so angry because i bet on Kas lmao, maybe trying to enjoy the games is a better BO than ranting on the forums

chill

he'll win
mana sucks


No need to be an asshole..
Intricacy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States218 Posts
June 12 2011 15:07 GMT
#937
On June 13 2011 00:05 Enox wrote:
somehow the stream doesnt work for me anymore. after the advertisement i only get a cinical brit logo. no sound, nothing is loading and i also cant change the quality


Might try cntrl + F5. JTV isn't really holding up so well with so many viewers. Apologies.
Axiom Founder | SHOUTcraft America Organizer | RIP TB 1984-2018
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 15:09:15
June 12 2011 15:08 GMT
#938
On June 13 2011 00:06 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 00:05 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 00:04 ChickenLips wrote:
btw, im so angry because i bet on Kas lmao, maybe trying to enjoy the games is a better BO than ranting on the forums

chill

he'll win
mana sucks


yeah the quality of decision making seems to have switched sides between games lol

i would say kas just underestimated mana and thought he could go for a simple build order win

mass marine expos catch a lot of unsuspecting players off guard
lalala
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
June 12 2011 15:10 GMT
#939
On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote:
Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general.


yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple.


On June 13 2011 00:03 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 23:59 Telcontar wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:58 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:57 Nerdslayer wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:56 ChickenLips wrote:
that was fucking awful

12 rax no gas, yeah good idea kas O____O


actually he took out socke earlier today with thyat build quite easy


didn't see those games, but even a gold player can micro sufficiently to kill that strategy.

maybe need plat to keep reinforcing with stalkers, but thats about it, insanely cheesy from kas

More importantly, Mana saw the 4 rax without any gas taken so he knew it was on the cards. If he had just gone robo off 3/2 gates, he would've been dead no matter how good his micro is.


No gas rushes can be held off without scouting and good micro, f.e. MC held it off with almost no problems. Against such a fast FE any good player will start chronoing stalkers to harass the shit out of it, and as long as you don't see a single marauder, you don't have to see the 200 rax with no addons in the main, you just keep on killing marines for free. If he puts down bunkers his timing is gone anyway.

This build = dumb and doesn't work against a P who knows what he's doing and has micro
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 12 2011 15:11 GMT
#940
On June 13 2011 00:10 barth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote:
Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general.


yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple.


Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 00:03 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:59 Telcontar wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:58 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:57 Nerdslayer wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:56 ChickenLips wrote:
that was fucking awful

12 rax no gas, yeah good idea kas O____O


actually he took out socke earlier today with thyat build quite easy


didn't see those games, but even a gold player can micro sufficiently to kill that strategy.

maybe need plat to keep reinforcing with stalkers, but thats about it, insanely cheesy from kas

More importantly, Mana saw the 4 rax without any gas taken so he knew it was on the cards. If he had just gone robo off 3/2 gates, he would've been dead no matter how good his micro is.


No gas rushes can be held off without scouting and good micro, f.e. MC held it off with almost no problems. Against such a fast FE any good player will start chronoing stalkers to harass the shit out of it, and as long as you don't see a single marauder, you don't have to see the 200 rax with no addons in the main, you just keep on killing marines for free. If he puts down bunkers his timing is gone anyway.

This build = dumb and doesn't work against a P who knows what he's doing and has micro

lol. Well played.
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