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On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote: Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general. yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple.
Don't worry, the bronze leaguers who post in LR threads are impressed by anything. It was just a sloppy game from both players.
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lol the player introduction is boss
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On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote: Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general. yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple.
haha nice delusions.
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On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote: Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general. yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple. no really no
you miss the subtle things mana scouted that entire thing with a sacrificial stalker because he suspected this exact strat, including scouting the no gas he makes a sentry or two and camps them up at the ramp in case kas brings all his scvs, in which case mana can sack his expansion and FF the scv/marines he uses not all but some of his stalkers to delay/whittle down the marines on the way he then goes for a counter right before the 3rd goes up and the other 4 rax finish i do agree that he lost 2-3 stalkers unnecessarily but his handling the situation was extremely well done
but i guess any player can do it assuming they've come across the same exact strat many times over
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On June 12 2011 23:59 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 23:58 ChickenLips wrote:On June 12 2011 23:57 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 12 2011 23:56 ChickenLips wrote: that was fucking awful
12 rax no gas, yeah good idea kas O____O actually he took out socke earlier today with thyat build quite easy didn't see those games, but even a gold player can micro sufficiently to kill that strategy. maybe need plat to keep reinforcing with stalkers, but thats about it, insanely cheesy from kas More importantly, Mana saw the 4 rax without any gas taken so he knew it was on the cards. If he had just gone robo off 3/2 gates, he would've been dead no matter how good his micro is.
No gas rushes can be held off without scouting and good micro, f.e. MC held it off with almost no problems. Against such a fast FE any good player will start chronoing stalkers to harass the shit out of it, and as long as you don't see a single marauder, you don't have to see the 200 rax with no addons in the main, you just keep on killing marines for free. If he puts down bunkers his timing is gone anyway.
This build = dumb and doesn't work against a P who knows what he's doing and has micro
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On June 12 2011 23:59 tjhan wrote: Justin.tv is so laggy, it's unwatchable for people in Asia.
VoDs will be available on Justin.tv after the tournament and on the http://www.youtube.com/totalhalibut
Sorry for the inconvenience in being able to view the event live.
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btw, im so angry because i bet on Kas lmao, maybe trying to enjoy the games is a better BO than ranting on the forums
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On June 13 2011 00:04 ChickenLips wrote: btw, im so angry because i bet on Kas lmao, maybe trying to enjoy the games is a better BO than ranting on the forums chill
he'll win mana sucks*
*disclaimer: this is my opinion and should not be taken for truth
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On June 12 2011 23:59 tjhan wrote: Justin.tv is so laggy, it's unwatchable for people in Asia.
Im in philippines, and justin.tv works flawless, never had any troubles (480p)
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somehow the stream doesnt work for me anymore. after the advertisement i only get a cinical brit logo. no sound, nothing is loading and i also cant change the quality
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On June 13 2011 00:02 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote: Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general. yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple. no really no you miss the subtle things mana scouted that entire thing with a sacrificial stalker because he suspected this exact strat, including scouting the no gas he makes a sentry or two and camps them up at the ramp in case kas brings all his scvs, in which case mana can sack his expansion and FF the scv/marines he uses not all but some of his stalkers to delay/whittle down the marines on the way he then goes for a counter right before the 3rd goes up and the other 4 rax finish i do agree that he lost 2-3 stalkers unnecessarily but his handling the situation was extremely well done but i guess any player can do it assuming they've come across the same exact strat many times over
The biggest fail was him not bringing a probe with him for a proxy, that almost cost him an unlosable game.
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On June 13 2011 00:06 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 00:02 youngminii wrote:On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote: Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general. yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple. no really no you miss the subtle things mana scouted that entire thing with a sacrificial stalker because he suspected this exact strat, including scouting the no gas he makes a sentry or two and camps them up at the ramp in case kas brings all his scvs, in which case mana can sack his expansion and FF the scv/marines he uses not all but some of his stalkers to delay/whittle down the marines on the way he then goes for a counter right before the 3rd goes up and the other 4 rax finish i do agree that he lost 2-3 stalkers unnecessarily but his handling the situation was extremely well done but i guess any player can do it assuming they've come across the same exact strat many times over The biggest fail was him not bringing a probe with him for a proxy, that almost cost him an unlosable game. he did though
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On June 13 2011 00:05 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 00:04 ChickenLips wrote: btw, im so angry because i bet on Kas lmao, maybe trying to enjoy the games is a better BO than ranting on the forums chill he'll win mana sucks
yeah the quality of decision making seems to have switched sides between games lol
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On June 13 2011 00:00 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote: Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general. yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple. Don't worry, the bronze leaguers who post in LR threads are impressed by anything. It was just a sloppy game from both players.
While I am an easily impressed and awful master league player who could do something similar against an equally bad player, I still find it entertaining to watch. It doesn't have to be difficult to make for a good show. Seeing Kas fall in such a convincing fashion at least left me in a shock.
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On June 13 2011 00:05 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 00:04 ChickenLips wrote: btw, im so angry because i bet on Kas lmao, maybe trying to enjoy the games is a better BO than ranting on the forums chill he'll win mana sucks
Nice mouth u got there, Im sure ur better than Mana right, because he sucks right ?
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On June 13 2011 00:05 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 00:04 ChickenLips wrote: btw, im so angry because i bet on Kas lmao, maybe trying to enjoy the games is a better BO than ranting on the forums chill he'll win mana sucks
No need to be an asshole..
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On June 13 2011 00:05 Enox wrote:somehow the stream doesnt work for me anymore. after the advertisement i only get a cinical brit logo. no sound, nothing is loading and i also cant change the quality 
Might try cntrl + F5. JTV isn't really holding up so well with so many viewers. Apologies.
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On June 13 2011 00:06 ChickenLips wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 00:05 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 00:04 ChickenLips wrote: btw, im so angry because i bet on Kas lmao, maybe trying to enjoy the games is a better BO than ranting on the forums chill he'll win mana sucks yeah the quality of decision making seems to have switched sides between games lol i would say kas just underestimated mana and thought he could go for a simple build order win
mass marine expos catch a lot of unsuspecting players off guard
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On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote: Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general. yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple.
On June 13 2011 00:03 ChickenLips wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 23:59 Telcontar wrote:On June 12 2011 23:58 ChickenLips wrote:On June 12 2011 23:57 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 12 2011 23:56 ChickenLips wrote: that was fucking awful
12 rax no gas, yeah good idea kas O____O actually he took out socke earlier today with thyat build quite easy didn't see those games, but even a gold player can micro sufficiently to kill that strategy. maybe need plat to keep reinforcing with stalkers, but thats about it, insanely cheesy from kas More importantly, Mana saw the 4 rax without any gas taken so he knew it was on the cards. If he had just gone robo off 3/2 gates, he would've been dead no matter how good his micro is. No gas rushes can be held off without scouting and good micro, f.e. MC held it off with almost no problems. Against such a fast FE any good player will start chronoing stalkers to harass the shit out of it, and as long as you don't see a single marauder, you don't have to see the 200 rax with no addons in the main, you just keep on killing marines for free. If he puts down bunkers his timing is gone anyway. This build = dumb and doesn't work against a P who knows what he's doing and has micro
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On June 13 2011 00:10 barth wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 23:59 ChickenLips wrote:On June 12 2011 23:58 Blasphemi wrote: Really low standard from both players. Poorly thought out Marine rush by Kas and Mana almost lost the counter attack through not microing his stalkers properly and not bringing a probe for a proxy to warp in across the map. Some very questionable play in general. yeah thank god, someone else isn't praising mana's micro to high heavens, anyone can micro like that, it's really really simple. Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 00:03 ChickenLips wrote:On June 12 2011 23:59 Telcontar wrote:On June 12 2011 23:58 ChickenLips wrote:On June 12 2011 23:57 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 12 2011 23:56 ChickenLips wrote: that was fucking awful
12 rax no gas, yeah good idea kas O____O actually he took out socke earlier today with thyat build quite easy didn't see those games, but even a gold player can micro sufficiently to kill that strategy. maybe need plat to keep reinforcing with stalkers, but thats about it, insanely cheesy from kas More importantly, Mana saw the 4 rax without any gas taken so he knew it was on the cards. If he had just gone robo off 3/2 gates, he would've been dead no matter how good his micro is. No gas rushes can be held off without scouting and good micro, f.e. MC held it off with almost no problems. Against such a fast FE any good player will start chronoing stalkers to harass the shit out of it, and as long as you don't see a single marauder, you don't have to see the 200 rax with no addons in the main, you just keep on killing marines for free. If he puts down bunkers his timing is gone anyway. This build = dumb and doesn't work against a P who knows what he's doing and has micro lol. Well played.
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