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On May 26 2011 11:40 SSLPrism wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 11:38 Durp wrote:On May 26 2011 11:36 SSLPrism wrote:On May 26 2011 11:35 Fruscainte wrote:On May 26 2011 11:33 SSLPrism wrote:
Well, I already know the NASL has already received a lot of criticism about the casters.. but I have to say this new caster today has well... poor game intelligence.
Anyone know if he will be casting any of the games in the future? :/ Are you pretending to be retarded? Look, I'm just stating an opinion, there is NO need for you to bring up mental illnesses towards me, I hope this is not tolerated on TL. The newer caster is Mr. Bitter. He's a high level player (is he in GM?), gives high level lessons, and is a featured stream on TL. I think you're getting most of the flaming because Bitter most definitely has high game knowledge, he's eloquent and well spoken, and pretty much a composition of everything live reports claim to want in a caster. I'm actually unbelievably impressed, but to each his own. I never questioned his etiquette, simply disappointed in NASL having a caster with such low game knowledge. But I'll end it there as people have clearly missed the point.
You're calling someone that is a top ranking Masters player who is featured for his coaching not knowledgeable of basic game ideas.
I don't see what point we missed.
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On May 26 2011 11:40 SSLPrism wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 11:38 Durp wrote:On May 26 2011 11:36 SSLPrism wrote:On May 26 2011 11:35 Fruscainte wrote:On May 26 2011 11:33 SSLPrism wrote:
Well, I already know the NASL has already received a lot of criticism about the casters.. but I have to say this new caster today has well... poor game intelligence.
Anyone know if he will be casting any of the games in the future? :/ Are you pretending to be retarded? Look, I'm just stating an opinion, there is NO need for you to bring up mental illnesses towards me, I hope this is not tolerated on TL. The newer caster is Mr. Bitter. He's a high level player (is he in GM?), gives high level lessons, and is a featured stream on TL. I think you're getting most of the flaming because Bitter most definitely has high game knowledge, he's eloquent and well spoken, and pretty much a composition of everything live reports claim to want in a caster. I'm actually unbelievably impressed, but to each his own. I never questioned his etiquette, simply disappointed in NASL having a caster with such low game knowledge. But I'll end it there as people have clearly missed the point.
I understand where you're coming from. Not everyone is the SC encyclopedia that is Artosis, but Mr. Bitter does actually have a very high level of game understanding. I believe he is a zerg main, you may see better insight in this series.
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On May 26 2011 11:38 Xxavi wrote:
What needs to happen for Grubby look decent? I don't even say he "Grubby to win", just to look decent?
It's funny as fuck really. People have been laughing at Artosis all this time, and rightly so, but Artosis is a lot better than Grubby. That says a lot. And no, I don't buy "he only started in January" bullshit.
Artosis can't even make GrandMaster on the NA server, Grubby is like top 20 GrandMaster on EU, came 3rd recently at a major LAN (beating TLO and 3-0'ing Morrow along the way) and has won multiple series over top level players (2-0 over Demuslim, Tarson, Nerchio etc).
As for the "only started in January" thing it's a fact, not an excuse. It's only 2 months ago that he was getting owned by mid-master nobodies on his stream, now he can hang with the best players in Europe. He will catch up eventually, just like Thorzain eventually caught up to the ex-WC3'ers who switched much earlier than he did.
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On May 26 2011 11:38 Xxavi wrote:
What needs to happen for Grubby look decent? I don't even say he "Grubby to win", just to look decent?
It's funny as fuck really. People have been laughing at Artosis all this time, and rightly so, but Artosis is a lot better than Grubby. That says a lot. And no, I don't buy "he only started in January" bullshit.
Artosis isn't better than Grubby....
I would say in the NASL they are both playing pretty damn poorly with Grubby probably taking games closer off more people. Grubby however has some pretty good results in European tournies and Artosis has none
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United States97274 Posts
Sheth sees all even if that baneling bust didn't do a ton of damage. Banshee harass should be minimized now.
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On May 26 2011 11:39 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 11:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On May 26 2011 11:35 Fruscainte wrote:On May 26 2011 11:33 SSLPrism wrote:
Well, I already know the NASL has already received a lot of criticism about the casters.. but I have to say this new caster today has well... poor game intelligence.
Anyone know if he will be casting any of the games in the future? :/ Are you pretending to be retarded? What's wrong with you? MrBitter isn't a progamer, and SSLPrism is more than entitled to giving his opinion. Having the right to give an opinion is vastly separate than being correct in your opinion.
And having the right to have an opinion is vastly separate than explicitly calling someone a retard on this forum.
Some people aren't fans of every commentator. You don't have to agree with them, or even respect their opinion, but you don't need to approach it in the manner that you did.
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On May 26 2011 09:36 Odien wrote:
My Liquibets:
Moon > TLO
Artosis < MorroW
Rainbow > ViBE
KiWiKaKi > Grubby
Fenix > Sheth
Yours?
TLO MoRRoW ViBE KiWiKaKi Sheth
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On May 26 2011 11:38 Xxavi wrote:
What needs to happen for Grubby look decent? I don't even say he "Grubby to win", just to look decent?
It's funny as fuck really. People have been laughing at Artosis all this time, and rightly so, but Artosis is a lot better than Grubby. That says a lot. And no, I don't buy "he only started in January" bullshit.
I think he needs regular practice partners, just playing ladder isnt going to cut it. Being on a team on his own is hurting him.
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On May 26 2011 11:41 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 11:39 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 11:38 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:
Next up is Fenix Vs Sheth
The map will be Tal'Darim alter
Sheth is located at the Top right
While Fenix is at the Top left 2:10 Expansion first for Sheth 4:00 Expansion on the way for Fenix as he has one reaper on the way 5:00 Ling speed finishes and now Sheth goes to make a Baneling nest Banshee and stim on the way for Fenix
6:00
Sheths baneling bust is denied by a banshee but still manages to get inside Fenix's base and see everything he is doing and creates his lair
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On May 26 2011 11:42 cuppatea wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 11:38 Xxavi wrote:
What needs to happen for Grubby look decent? I don't even say he "Grubby to win", just to look decent?
It's funny as fuck really. People have been laughing at Artosis all this time, and rightly so, but Artosis is a lot better than Grubby. That says a lot. And no, I don't buy "he only started in January" bullshit. Artosis can't even make Masters on the NA server, Grubby is like top 20 Grandmaster on EU, came 3rd recently at a major LAN (beating TLO and 3-0'ing Morrow along the way) and has won multiple series over top level players (2-0 over Demuslim, Tarson, Nerchio etc). As for the "only started in January" thing it's a fact, not an excuse. It's only 2 months ago that he was getting owned by mid-master nobodies on his stream, now he can hang with the best players in Europe. He will catch up eventually, just like Thorzain eventually caught up to the ex-WC3'ers who switched much earlier than he did.
Uh, you do realize hes Masters on NA & Korea?
At least check before you make false statements, please.
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Really banking on Sheth right now. Need this liquibet win ;-;
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Fenix pulling ahead of Sheth just a bit with that banshee harrass!
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Btw I totally called fenix going banshee
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dang 20 kill banshee. i guess i was wrong about minimizing harass
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On May 26 2011 11:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 11:39 Fruscainte wrote:On May 26 2011 11:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On May 26 2011 11:35 Fruscainte wrote:On May 26 2011 11:33 SSLPrism wrote:
Well, I already know the NASL has already received a lot of criticism about the casters.. but I have to say this new caster today has well... poor game intelligence.
Anyone know if he will be casting any of the games in the future? :/ Are you pretending to be retarded? What's wrong with you? MrBitter isn't a progamer, and SSLPrism is more than entitled to giving his opinion. Having the right to give an opinion is vastly separate than being correct in your opinion. And having the right to have an opinion is vastly separate than explicitly calling someone a retard on this forum. Some people aren't fans of every commentator. You don't have to agree with them, or even respect their opinion, but you don't need to approach it in the manner that you did.
It appears I struck a pretty deep chord, so I'll drop it before this gets out of hand.
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On May 26 2011 11:42 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 11:41 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 11:39 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 11:38 Drazerk wrote:On May 26 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:
Next up is Fenix Vs Sheth
The map will be Tal'Darim alter
Sheth is located at the Top right
While Fenix is at the Top left 2:10 Expansion first for Sheth 4:00 Expansion on the way for Fenix as he has one reaper on the way 5:00 Ling speed finishes and now Sheth goes to make a Baneling nest Banshee and stim on the way for Fenix 6:00 Sheths baneling bust is denied by a banshee but still manages to get inside Fenix's base and see everything he is doing and creates his lair
11:00
Hero banshee wracks up a lot of kills
Fenix looking to push out as he sieges on the low ground
Spire on the way for sheth
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On May 26 2011 11:43 SSLPrism wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 11:42 cuppatea wrote:On May 26 2011 11:38 Xxavi wrote:
What needs to happen for Grubby look decent? I don't even say he "Grubby to win", just to look decent?
It's funny as fuck really. People have been laughing at Artosis all this time, and rightly so, but Artosis is a lot better than Grubby. That says a lot. And no, I don't buy "he only started in January" bullshit. Artosis can't even make Masters on the NA server, Grubby is like top 20 Grandmaster on EU, came 3rd recently at a major LAN (beating TLO and 3-0'ing Morrow along the way) and has won multiple series over top level players (2-0 over Demuslim, Tarson, Nerchio etc). As for the "only started in January" thing it's a fact, not an excuse. It's only 2 months ago that he was getting owned by mid-master nobodies on his stream, now he can hang with the best players in Europe. He will catch up eventually, just like Thorzain eventually caught up to the ex-WC3'ers who switched much earlier than he did. Uh, you do realize hes Masters on NA & Korea? At least check before you make false statements, please.
I meant GM and edited it before you posted.
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fenix didnt micro his marines AT ALL. wtf?
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Wow... Sheth could have saved that hatchery. He seems really slow to react in a lot of the situations so far this game.
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On May 26 2011 11:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:
dang 20 kill banshee. i guess i was wrong about minimizing harass
remember most of those kills are lings/banelings from sheth's attack, edit: definitely worth the banshee though, probably would have lost the game if he didnt get the banelings
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