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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 14 2011 05:01 GMT
#3121
All 4 SlayerS players confirmed for the finals.

SlayerS.Puzzle
SlayerS.Taeja
SlayerS.CoCa
SlayerS.Min
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
October 14 2011 05:01 GMT
#3122
On October 14 2011 12:46 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 12:38 Lunares wrote:
When orb says that he was casting the NASL weeks 5-8, does that mean NASL actually does that many weeks of games in advance? I didn't know that,I thought they were 1 week at a time. More surprised that results don't leak then.

Yes, they do many weeks of games in advance, it's one of the many reasons people tend to shy away from NASL.


I think you're thinking of IPL. NASL plays and broadcasts the same week as far as I know.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
October 14 2011 05:03 GMT
#3123
On October 14 2011 14:01 cablesc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 12:46 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 14 2011 12:38 Lunares wrote:
When orb says that he was casting the NASL weeks 5-8, does that mean NASL actually does that many weeks of games in advance? I didn't know that,I thought they were 1 week at a time. More surprised that results don't leak then.

Yes, they do many weeks of games in advance, it's one of the many reasons people tend to shy away from NASL.


I think you're thinking of IPL. NASL plays and broadcasts the same week as far as I know.

Nasl season 2 is pre recorded much farther in advance now. + Show Spoiler +
I haypro's interview today he said the patch was just released

Really looking forward to see more of ForGG, and basically all of slayers.
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
woobsauce
Profile Joined August 2011
United States491 Posts
October 14 2011 05:13 GMT
#3124
On October 14 2011 14:01 Diamond wrote:
All 4 SlayerS players confirmed for the finals.

SlayerS.Puzzle
SlayerS.Taeja
SlayerS.CoCa
SlayerS.Min


That is so, so awesome. :O I love the weekly tournament, argh! :D
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
October 14 2011 06:09 GMT
#3125
On October 14 2011 13:56 Ex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 13:34 K3Nyy wrote:
On October 14 2011 13:29 GreyKnight wrote:
On October 14 2011 13:27 K3Nyy wrote:
On October 14 2011 12:15 DoomsVille wrote:
Reason Taeja wins:

1) He is one of the few players that is very balanced across all 3 matchups. Unlike players like July, DRG, MMA that all have 1 very weak MU.

2) He is a strong Code S player playing primarily Code A/B players.

I mean yea it's amazing that he is destroying everyone left and right. But it doesn't really surprise me


What's DRG's weakest matchup? Seems to me everything is 70% and even in foreign tournaments he's 60%+.


DRG has bad ZvP.


What? Since when?

The only bad Protoss he pretty much lost to is Tester whereas he lost a lot more to bad Terrans.


He did just lose to.... Gatored.... Whose best MU isnt even meant to be PvZ I think.

But also all the attention is on his ZvT because far fewer zergs are considered good at that matchup, whereas plenty of zergs seem to have an easy time in ZvP. For example Nestea/Losira/Coca all 70+% ZvP, but various degrees of bad in ZvT.


Yeah I dunno I think he's kinda off today. He also dropped a game vs Strelok too and it looked like the series could go either way. I think it's most definitely jetlag.

Personally, I don't think he has a weak matchup and if he does, it would be his ZvT. But then again, him losing to Gatored really doesn't help my argument. ><"
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 06:53:17
October 14 2011 06:48 GMT
#3126
I think saying DRG's ZvP is weak is like saying Bomber's TvT is weak. It's only "weak" because the player is so stupid good at the other two match ups too easy to forget his "weak" match up is still insane good by normal standards, and only "weak" by that players very high standards. DRG's overall winrate vP is still 65% worldwide according to TLPD, and that's good enough to be a sniper on most Korean teams in a MU.

Edit: To further that statement, I looked at InCa's PvP. I think most would consider InCa to be one of the most elite snipers in Korea and his PvP is stupid good. Worldwide TLPD: 72%. DRG is only 7% difference vP (yes I know DRG plays Z) then the best PvP sniper out there. Not bad...
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 17:34:51
October 14 2011 17:30 GMT
#3127
FXO.Oz and FXO.Sirius confirmed for the finals! Thread should be up hopefully today.

Edit: ST.Squirtle also confirmed. 7/16 confirmed so far.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 20:29:59
October 14 2011 20:27 GMT
#3128
On October 14 2011 15:48 Diamond wrote:
I think saying DRG's ZvP is weak is like saying Bomber's TvT is weak. It's only "weak" because the player is so stupid good at the other two match ups too easy to forget his "weak" match up is still insane good by normal standards, and only "weak" by that players very high standards. DRG's overall winrate vP is still 65% worldwide according to TLPD, and that's good enough to be a sniper on most Korean teams in a MU.

Edit: To further that statement, I looked at InCa's PvP. I think most would consider InCa to be one of the most elite snipers in Korea and his PvP is stupid good. Worldwide TLPD: 72%. DRG is only 7% difference vP (yes I know DRG plays Z) then the best PvP sniper out there. Not bad...


I prefer to look at ELOs in certain matchups. Winrates, while they do tell some of the story, don't actually take into consideration how good or bad the players you had to face actually were, while ELO does.

It's also not generally fair to compare different matchups vs. Protoss, especially mirror matchups. If someone had a 75% winrate TvZ, most would say that's damn good. But that isn't comparable to someone who's 75-80% in ZvZ, a matchup that's considered to be far more volatile and fragile. 75% ZvZ is incredible.

DRG currently has the 15th best ELO vs. Protoss in Korea by last update.
InCa is currently #3.

DRG's international ELO for ZvP is basically off the map. He ranks below zergs such as MorroW, CatZ, Moonglade, Ret, Stephano, July, Moon, IdrA, Sheth, Zenio, and Tan.

Does DRG have a relatively small sample size for international ELO? Yes. But he was 10-6 going into IEM NY and now I believe he's 11-8, including these losses to a nearly unknown USA Protoss in Gatored.
This space for rent.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 14 2011 20:35 GMT
#3129
oGs.ForGG, oGs.InCa, and oGs.JookTo all confirmed! Up to 10/16 now!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
October 14 2011 21:04 GMT
#3130
I'd love to see Byun back in Code A via this but even if he's invited i doubt he'd get the Code A spot he didn't play that well against Min :8
gostunv
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan1178 Posts
October 16 2011 10:30 GMT
#3131
when is the bronze game>?
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Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
October 16 2011 11:03 GMT
#3132
it would be cool if someone would constantly update the results in liquipedia. i cant watch the stream most of the time so i rely on liquipedia but noones doing it
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
October 16 2011 13:12 GMT
#3133
Does the highest ranked non-code A/S player after the finals get the Code A spot? Would be a pity of Taeja just ripped his way through again.
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
October 16 2011 13:24 GMT
#3134
On October 16 2011 19:30 gostunv wrote:
when is the bronze game>?


The bronze game is not always played, most likely because there's no difference in prize money. If played, it's usually on the final day itself.

On October 16 2011 20:03 Tppz! wrote:
it would be cool if someone would constantly update the results in liquipedia. i cant watch the stream most of the time so i rely on liquipedia but noones doing it


Do you mean right as the games are played? Otherwise, they look pretty updated to me.
Example: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Korean_Weekly_12

DiMano's been doing a great job updating all the brackets. All information should be able to be found here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESV_TV_Korean_Weekly
Look under ESV TV Events for the brackets.


On October 16 2011 22:12 Oktyabr wrote:
Does the highest ranked non-code A/S player after the finals get the Code A spot? Would be a pity of Taeja just ripped his way through again.


Yes, I'm pretty sure they would. Let's face it, it would be unfair to them because TaeJa would obviously win.
woobsauce
Profile Joined August 2011
United States491 Posts
October 16 2011 22:43 GMT
#3135
Is the monthly weekly coming up this week? :D!
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 10:30:59
October 17 2011 10:29 GMT
#3136
On October 16 2011 20:03 Tppz! wrote:
it would be cool if someone would constantly update the results in liquipedia. i cant watch the stream most of the time so i rely on liquipedia but noones doing it


Last week We just started adding brackets on wiki. All past event brackets are ready. From Weekly 12 it will getting better and better as you can see Korean Weekly 12 has more information then others and it was updating online. I can not watch streams online so I can update brackets only after I watched vods. So guys if you want to help welcome.
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
October 19 2011 00:50 GMT
#3137
Anyone know where I can find the public replays from recent weeks (week 10, 11)?
Can't find it anywhere
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 19 2011 03:33 GMT
#3138
On October 19 2011 09:50 Namu wrote:
Anyone know where I can find the public replays from recent weeks (week 10, 11)?
Can't find it anywhere


I'll be getting everything replay related done in a couple hours or so.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 07:41:21
October 19 2011 07:40 GMT
#3139
I heard ForGG was here. Where are my ForGG VODs?!?!??

Edit: ahh, in the future...
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 19 2011 08:19 GMT
#3140
Weeks 10 and 11 replay packs!

As always big thanks to Twitch TV and Steelseries for sponsoring this event and making these possible!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
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