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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 21 2011 02:39 GMT
#281
Haypro is so dead now... damnit..
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
May 21 2011 02:39 GMT
#282
That was basically the worst spot to engage he couldve possibly picked. lol :-/
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 21 2011 02:39 GMT
#283
On May 21 2011 11:37 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:35 Drazerk wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:33 Drazerk wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:32 Drazerk wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:31 Drazerk wrote:
Game two now starting on Xel naga caverns

Moonglade is 1-0 up in the series

Haypro is at the south

while moonglade is at the north


2:10

Once again...

gas and pool for moonglade

15 hatch for hay pro


3:30

ling speed for moonglade while getting his own expansion


5:30

roaches out for haypro while now getting ling speed

roach warren finishing for moonglade


7:30

Push from haypro

Moonglade is prepared for it


9:00

Moonglade holds the push off and starts droning again


10:30

haypro loses his hatch and starts a baneling nest
iLLmatiic
Profile Joined August 2010
64 Posts
May 21 2011 02:39 GMT
#284
On May 21 2011 11:36 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 11:30 Mailing wrote:
people would be bitching so hard if that was idra gging :/


No they wouldn't. Haypro basically lost with the build order and then the 1% chance he had to win was gone with mismicro.

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 11:30 Falcor wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:29 FuzzyJAM wrote:
. . .

. . .

Well, guess that's that. I never thought I'd say it, but PvP is no longer the worst match up.


haypros fault you really cant open hatch first or you lose to banelings...unless you do spanishiway with a medium to small ramp to your nat base and get some spines up.


I'm not saying Haypro deserved to win or whatever, I'm just disappointed with how bad ZvZ is. So much coin flippery.

haypro went a very risky build by not drone scouting and going for hatch first into ling speed and he got punished. That game said nothing on the state of zvz
elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
May 21 2011 02:40 GMT
#285
Haypro played horribly, should have drone pumped after moon glade saw that he had no drones in his expo, cause then you know moonglade himself will have to make defensive units...oh well.
this mah s#$%$
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 21 2011 02:40 GMT
#286
On May 21 2011 11:39 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 11:37 Drazerk wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:35 Drazerk wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:33 Drazerk wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:32 Drazerk wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:31 Drazerk wrote:
Game two now starting on Xel naga caverns

Moonglade is 1-0 up in the series

Haypro is at the south

while moonglade is at the north


2:10

Once again...

gas and pool for moonglade

15 hatch for hay pro


3:30

ling speed for moonglade while getting his own expansion


5:30

roaches out for haypro while now getting ling speed

roach warren finishing for moonglade


7:30

Push from haypro

Moonglade is prepared for it


9:00

Moonglade holds the push off and starts droning again


10:30

haypro loses his hatch and starts a baneling nest


11:00

Haypro GGs out

Moonglade wins the series 2-0
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
May 21 2011 02:40 GMT
#287
Well haypro lost that series, but i do not think it was his fault, i just think that Moonglade was better prepared, and just did very well.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
May 21 2011 02:40 GMT
#288
On May 21 2011 11:35 reapsen wrote:
Haypro lost an overlord??!?!

Moonglade loves to pick off overlords with his queens if he sees any chance to do so.
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 02:43:20
May 21 2011 02:41 GMT
#289
On May 21 2011 11:36 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 11:30 Mailing wrote:
people would be bitching so hard if that was idra gging :/


No they wouldn't. Haypro basically lost with the build order and then the 1% chance he had to win was gone with mismicro.

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 11:30 Falcor wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:29 FuzzyJAM wrote:
. . .

. . .

Well, guess that's that. I never thought I'd say it, but PvP is no longer the worst match up.


haypros fault you really cant open hatch first or you lose to banelings...unless you do spanishiway with a medium to small ramp to your nat base and get some spines up.


I'm not saying Haypro deserved to win or whatever, I'm just disappointed with how bad ZvZ is. So much coin flippery.


ZvZ is very bad. but i wouldnt call it to coin flippy imo. Dont open hatch first and your fine. If their hatch doesnt go down at the standar time for a pool first build, get ready for a all in. The coin flips come mid game imo

edit: i use to hate zvz with a passion playing it up until a week ago, when i finally relized what i had to do. but midgame is still a nightmare
Happy Frog
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia490 Posts
May 21 2011 02:42 GMT
#290
Moonglade is my favourite player to watch in the NASL, purely to see if Geoff can outdo himself with his poor Australian jokes each week <3
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
May 21 2011 02:43 GMT
#291
On May 21 2011 11:35 Happy Frog wrote:
Could a Banshee kill a Cerebrate Incontrol?


lol, Nice. That should be PainUser's first point of that argument.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 21 2011 02:43 GMT
#292
On May 21 2011 11:39 iLLmatiic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 11:36 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:30 Mailing wrote:
people would be bitching so hard if that was idra gging :/


No they wouldn't. Haypro basically lost with the build order and then the 1% chance he had to win was gone with mismicro.

On May 21 2011 11:30 Falcor wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:29 FuzzyJAM wrote:
. . .

. . .

Well, guess that's that. I never thought I'd say it, but PvP is no longer the worst match up.


haypros fault you really cant open hatch first or you lose to banelings...unless you do spanishiway with a medium to small ramp to your nat base and get some spines up.


I'm not saying Haypro deserved to win or whatever, I'm just disappointed with how bad ZvZ is. So much coin flippery.

haypro went a very risky build by not drone scouting and going for hatch first into ling speed and he got punished. That game said nothing on the state of zvz


He didn't drone scout because he knew any very early pressure would kill him whenever he found out about it.

A pro gong for a total coin flip absolutely does say something about the matchup.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 21 2011 02:44 GMT
#293
Lol that was interesting music... it was typical "epic" video game music but it was way over the top.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 21 2011 02:44 GMT
#294
On May 21 2011 11:31 OrChard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 11:14 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:11 MrCon wrote:
Roach warren :D
Gogo roachling pressure/aggression/allin please, I want to see someone hold it on TV for the first time.



white-ra held darkforces off a couple weeks ago. i know, amazing

can you post the replay here?
i am curious to see how to hold off roachlings push.



it's a NASL vod.

basically good forcefields
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Kar98
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia924 Posts
May 21 2011 02:44 GMT
#295
On May 21 2011 11:42 Happy Frog wrote:
Moonglade is my favourite player to watch in the NASL, purely to see if Geoff can outdo himself with his poor Australian jokes each week <3

haha yeah, great seing incontrol's impersonations :D
elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
May 21 2011 02:45 GMT
#296
On May 21 2011 11:41 Falcor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 11:36 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:30 Mailing wrote:
people would be bitching so hard if that was idra gging :/


No they wouldn't. Haypro basically lost with the build order and then the 1% chance he had to win was gone with mismicro.

On May 21 2011 11:30 Falcor wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:29 FuzzyJAM wrote:
. . .

. . .

Well, guess that's that. I never thought I'd say it, but PvP is no longer the worst match up.


haypros fault you really cant open hatch first or you lose to banelings...unless you do spanishiway with a medium to small ramp to your nat base and get some spines up.


I'm not saying Haypro deserved to win or whatever, I'm just disappointed with how bad ZvZ is. So much coin flippery.


ZvZ is very bad. but i wouldnt call it to coin flippy imo. Dont open hatch first and your fine. If their hatch doesnt go down at the standar time for a pool first build, get ready for a all in. The coin flips come mid game imo

You do lose to a hatch first just cause a spine and defensive baneling will stop your all in, and if you can't act fast then you will be so much behind it is not even funny....personaly I like gimaga's ZvZ style, fast expo into lingspeed and make like 20 of them with 20ish drones and then use those lings offensivly, if he goes fast bane nest you go for roaches and a spine or two, however this requires dimaga status multitasking (check July vS Dimaga baneling war where Dimaga went hatch first and july went for fast baneling).
this mah s#$%$
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
May 21 2011 02:46 GMT
#297
On May 21 2011 11:43 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 11:39 iLLmatiic wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:36 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:30 Mailing wrote:
people would be bitching so hard if that was idra gging :/


No they wouldn't. Haypro basically lost with the build order and then the 1% chance he had to win was gone with mismicro.

On May 21 2011 11:30 Falcor wrote:
On May 21 2011 11:29 FuzzyJAM wrote:
. . .

. . .

Well, guess that's that. I never thought I'd say it, but PvP is no longer the worst match up.


haypros fault you really cant open hatch first or you lose to banelings...unless you do spanishiway with a medium to small ramp to your nat base and get some spines up.


I'm not saying Haypro deserved to win or whatever, I'm just disappointed with how bad ZvZ is. So much coin flippery.

haypro went a very risky build by not drone scouting and going for hatch first into ling speed and he got punished. That game said nothing on the state of zvz


He didn't drone scout because he knew any very early pressure would kill him whenever he found out about it.

A pro gong for a total coin flip absolutely does say something about the matchup.


The coin flip he went for even if it pays off doesnt give a big enough pay off to do it imo. It was just bad play on his part.
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
May 21 2011 02:46 GMT
#298
On May 21 2011 11:43 AimForTheBushes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 11:35 Happy Frog wrote:
Could a Banshee kill a Cerebrate Incontrol?


lol, Nice. That should be PainUser's first point of that argument.

meh needed a terran to take out the entire army first :p
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
May 21 2011 02:47 GMT
#299
Stream down?
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 02:48:28
May 21 2011 02:47 GMT
#300
stream got laggy as hell all of a sudden

edit: seems better now.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
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