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Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
May 16 2011 02:05 GMT
#281
"It actually looks like a cookie monster."
wat.
Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 16 2011 02:06 GMT
#282
Crossfire tends to have what I call the "Fruit Dealer-Kulas Effect", which is Zergs feel at such a massive disadvantage that they do a completely non-standard build/strategy. So it might hurt your other play (which is what they're generally mean by a "bad" map these days), but you can find ways to win on the map.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
May 16 2011 02:06 GMT
#283
Depending on the matchups, taking a fast hidden gold seems like a good strategy on Crossfire. I saw Bomber (T) doing it a lot of times during GSL.
o choro é livre
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
May 16 2011 02:07 GMT
#284
i love how cloud has the great wall of china of supply depots.

also im calling gg for zenio since hes free mining a gold ~_~
Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
May 16 2011 02:07 GMT
#285
Cloud's supply depot wall.. wow.
Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 16 2011 02:07 GMT
#286
If i was Zenio i would baneling bust those depots just to make a point haha - so very silly; that is a guaranteed supply block.

Zenio still sitting on his gold base; loaded up medivac flies over the gold!
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
May 16 2011 02:07 GMT
#287
On May 16 2011 11:03 AimForTheBushes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 10:59 Moonwrath wrote:
Here we go with the crossfire hates zerg diatribe. Too bad Zerg actually wins the majority of their games on this map.


Idra had a pretty accurate take on this map, imo. He said it can favor/be ok for Zerg early on..but it can get bad late game, with it's narrow corridors.

I think the key for zerg on this map is knowing where/when/how to engage once they get to the mid- game. The multiple pathways really lend themselves to the viability of counterattacking/mobile armies.


But none of that matters when you consider the individual players and games, which stats actually don't...

Zenio is a much stronger player than cloud, so he will likely win. And that game will add to the stats of people who actually think crossfire is zerg favored contrary to common sense. It's the players and strategies that matter... Unfortunately most T and P haven't played a solid macro game that can actually take advantage of the narrow corridors on this map. They have relied on early aggression or somehow lost to Zerg all ins for the most part.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
May 16 2011 02:07 GMT
#288
I just wish once I could watch NASL without the stream constantly pausing.
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 02:09:13
May 16 2011 02:07 GMT
#289
lol @ the depot wall... Cloud showing he has NO desire to be the aggressor, for the time being.. XD

Would love to see a baneling bust on it, and supply cap him for the next 10 minutes..
Edit: Dammit..Ninja'ed by bkrow..
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
May 16 2011 02:07 GMT
#290
Supply is kinda telling the story of more income for ClouD, those first 8 lings hurt zenio a lot.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
May 16 2011 02:07 GMT
#291
On May 16 2011 11:06 AlBundy wrote:
Depending on the matchups, taking a fast hidden gold seems like a good strategy on Crossfire. I saw Bomber (T) doing it a lot of times during GSL.

CatZ almost made it work last night too. And that was as his 1st expo.
#TeamBuLba
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 16 2011 02:07 GMT
#292
Cloud scouts the gold expansion and starts pushing out.
tetracycloide
Profile Joined July 2010
295 Posts
May 16 2011 02:08 GMT
#293
On May 16 2011 11:03 zawk9 wrote:
Zerg is pretty much forced to do cheeses and creative timing pushes a lot on Crossfire. Look out for one of those from Zenio...

EDIT: Or a fast third rofl

It's the same thing really only the other direction.
My vanity is justified
Zaxro
Profile Joined November 2009
United States261 Posts
May 16 2011 02:08 GMT
#294
On May 16 2011 11:05 Tracedragon wrote:
"It actually looks like a cookie monster."
wat.

He was just trying desperately trying to make a cookie monster reference for ClouD. It was a BW joke, look at his BW liquipedia page
CjrNinja
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia223 Posts
May 16 2011 02:08 GMT
#295
Please baneling bust that depot wall Zenio...
For her everything was red, orange, gold-red from the sun on the closed eyes, and it all was that color, all of it, the filling, the possessing, the having, all of that color, all in a blindness of that color.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
May 16 2011 02:09 GMT
#296
On May 16 2011 11:07 garlicface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 11:06 AlBundy wrote:
Depending on the matchups, taking a fast hidden gold seems like a good strategy on Crossfire. I saw Bomber (T) doing it a lot of times during GSL.

CatZ almost made it work last night too. And that was as his 1st expo.

that was also the most wtf game ever lol
ShogunSeppuku
Profile Joined April 2011
United States80 Posts
May 16 2011 02:09 GMT
#297
That was a beautiful flank from Zenio.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
May 16 2011 02:09 GMT
#298
Zenio taking the entire map -_- building 3 hatches
o choro é livre
tetracycloide
Profile Joined July 2010
295 Posts
May 16 2011 02:10 GMT
#299
On May 16 2011 11:09 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 11:07 garlicface wrote:
On May 16 2011 11:06 AlBundy wrote:
Depending on the matchups, taking a fast hidden gold seems like a good strategy on Crossfire. I saw Bomber (T) doing it a lot of times during GSL.

CatZ almost made it work last night too. And that was as his 1st expo.

that was also the most wtf game ever lol

Only if you've never seen CatZ play before...
My vanity is justified
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
May 16 2011 02:11 GMT
#300
did cloud seriously just fly a full medivac down the middle of the map..or was imagining that?
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