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Thursday, May 12 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
IGN Pro League Season 2 Day 1 - Qualifying Rounds (RO 16)
Best of Five, starting on Xel'Naga Caverns
Set 1:  FnaticMSITTOne vs  MillDieStar Set 2: MillTarson vs EGLzGaMeR Set 3:  SixjaxViBE vs MouzHasuobs
IPL Commentator
AskJoshy
Results
+ Show Spoiler +Set 1: FnaticMSITTOne vs MillDieStar Game 1: FnaticMSITTOne < MillDieStar on Xel'Naga Caverns Game 2: FnaticMSITTOne < MillDieStar on Crossfire Game 3: FnaticMSITTOne < MillDieStar on Metalopolis Set 2: MillTarson vs EGLzGaMeR Game 1: MillTarson > EGLzGaMeR on Xel'Naga Caverns Game 2: MillTarson > EGLzGaMeR on Terminus RE Game 3: MillTarson > EGLzGaMeR on Metalopolis Set 3: SixjaxViBE vs MouzHasuobs Game 1: SixjaxViBE < MouzHasuobs on Xel'Naga Caverns Game 2: SixjaxViBE > MouzHasuobs on Shakuras Plateau Game 3: SixjaxViBE > MouzHasuobs on Terminus RE Game 4: SixjaxViBE > MouzHasuobs on Tal'Darim Altar ►MillDieStar has qualified for IPL season two! ►MillTarson has qualified for IPL season two! ►SixjaxViBE has qualified for IPL season two!
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Who do you think is going to qualify?
Poll: Who's going to qualify between TTOne and Diestar?Diestar (24) 52% TTOne (22) 48% 46 total votes Your vote: Who's going to qualify between TTOne and Diestar? (Vote): TTOne
(Vote): Diestar
Poll: Who's going to qualify between Tarson and LzGaMeR?Tarson (30) 73% LzGaMeR (11) 27% 41 total votes Your vote: Who's going to qualify between Tarson and LzGaMeR? (Vote): Tarson
(Vote): LzGaMeR
Poll: Who's going to qualify between SixjaxViBE and MouzHasuobs?MouzHasuobs (38) 81% SixjaxViBE (9) 19% 47 total votes Your vote: Who's going to qualify between SixjaxViBE and MouzHasuobs? (Vote): SixjaxViBE
(Vote): MouzHasuobs
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GL ViBE! Will be a tough day for everyone O_O
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my bets are on diestar, tarson and hasuobs
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On May 13 2011 03:14 SayTT wrote:
my bets are on diestar, tarson and hasuobs
Lz is on a roll, he'll do it!
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On May 13 2011 03:17 theMarkovian wrote:Lz is on a roll, he'll do it!
yea would be a nice result aswell, been a long time since I've seen him play on the big stage. I watched his stream back in early beta alot.
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Set 1: FnaticMSITTOne vs MillDieStar
Set 2: MillTarson vs EGLzGaMeR
Set 3: SixjaxViBE vs MouzHasuobs
HASUUUUUUUUUU <3
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Is this being produced by WP again?
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On May 13 2011 03:05 Alex.IGN wrote:Who do you think is going to qualify? Poll: Who's going to qualify between TTOne and Diestar?Diestar (24) 52% TTOne (22) 48% 46 total votes Your vote: Who's going to qualify between TTOne and Diestar? (Vote): TTOne
(Vote): Diestar
Poll: Who's going to qualify between Tarson and LzGaMeR?Tarson (30) 73% LzGaMeR (11) 27% 41 total votes Your vote: Who's going to qualify between Tarson and LzGaMeR? (Vote): Tarson
(Vote): LzGaMeR
Poll: Who's going to qualify between SixjaxViBE and MouzHasuobs?MouzHasuobs (38) 81% SixjaxViBE (9) 19% 47 total votes Your vote: Who's going to qualify between SixjaxViBE and MouzHasuobs? (Vote): SixjaxViBE
(Vote): MouzHasuobs
Alex you live me no choice.... Go Diestar, Tarson and .... Hasu
On the side note... im going to be so sleepy tomorrow at work.
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Haven't seen Tarson around for ages. Where's he been and is he still much good?
TT1 and Hasu to win the others.
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On May 13 2011 05:28 HelloSon wrote:
Is this being produced by WP again?
These qualifiers are not, we are casting from replays live.
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I believe in all the NORTH AMERICAN PLAYERS!!!! TT1 VIBE LZ GOGOGO
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gogo diestar, lz and hasu
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Hm~ Gogog Diestar, Lz and Hasu.
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Do the winner of these matches qualify right?
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Wow, diestar is wrecking TT1 so far..
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3/3 european wins for sure :D
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Yes, Diestar qualifies if he beats TT1. Which is looking very likely.
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On May 13 2011 07:23 GenoZStriker wrote:
Do the winner of these matches qualify right?
Correct!
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And why didn't you wait for the phoenix TT1...........
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That was pretty one sided :O
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Getting both a robo and a stargate off 1 base spreads yourself too thin against that push.
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Wow, such bad play from TT1. Oh and, we want to see Destiny play! :D
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On May 13 2011 05:32 Yaotzin wrote:
Haven't seen Tarson around for ages. Where's he been and is he still much good?
TT1 and Hasu to win the others.
He's about as good as Diestar, he started playing weekly cups again only recently but he's not been doing as well as guys like Kas/Nerchio/Happy etc.
Nice to see Diestar in this, he went quiet for a while so I thought he might be putting sc2 on the backburner, but he's looking pretty sharp in this.
eu hwaiting! =p
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We revealed the round of 32 winners a couple days ago, and are now casting the RO 16!
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Good thing that there is an open qualification for this.
That way people like Diestar can qualify, which are actually really good but dont get invited to anything because they are no "big names".
Although a point system similar to TSL would have been even better.
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And I am still somewhat mad that only ro16 is casted while there were so many good matches in earlier rounds. :/
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All the players in IPL season 1 were American right(or living in america)? So Diestar is the first European to make it into the IPL.
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On May 13 2011 07:34 Tachion wrote:
All the players in IPL season 1 were American right(or living in america)? So Diestar is the first European to make it into the IPL.
Correct!
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On May 13 2011 07:33 Alex.IGN wrote:We revealed the round of 32 winners a couple days ago, and are now casting the RO 16!
Yeah, but according to the bracket there should be other games? Like tt1 vs moonan?
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On May 13 2011 07:36 Finrod1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 07:33 Alex.IGN wrote:We revealed the round of 32 winners a couple days ago, and are now casting the RO 16! Yeah, but according to the bracket there should be other games? Like tt1 vs moonan?
They already played:
Round of 32
+ Show Spoiler +VPDaedalus vs Theory
MouzMana vs coLRyze
Paranoid vs MYMCloud
LiquidRet vs Nerchio
ROOTCatZ vs Iefnaij
FnaticFenix > Gensulitor
FnaticMSITTI > FXOmOoNaN
MillDieStar > fkcXions
SixjaxViBE > Virus
NrGdde < MouzHasuObs
MillTarson > Serp
EGLzGaMeR > ROOTDdoro
ROOTDestiny > Sterling
Edge < Holder
XxElitexX < FnaticNightend
coLstalife > RevShadow
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On May 13 2011 07:36 Finrod1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 07:33 Alex.IGN wrote:We revealed the round of 32 winners a couple days ago, and are now casting the RO 16! Yeah, but according to the bracket there should be other games? Like tt1 vs moonan?
The results of ro32 are not in the bracket.
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On May 13 2011 07:38 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 07:36 Finrod1 wrote:On May 13 2011 07:33 Alex.IGN wrote:We revealed the round of 32 winners a couple days ago, and are now casting the RO 16! Yeah, but according to the bracket there should be other games? Like tt1 vs moonan? They already played: Round of 32+ Show Spoiler +VPDaedalus vs Theory
MouzMana vs coLRyze
Paranoid vs MYMCloud
LiquidRet vs Nerchio
ROOTCatZ vs Iefnaij
FnaticFenix > Gensulitor
FnaticMSITTI > FXOmOoNaN
MillDieStar > fkcXions
SixjaxViBE > Virus
NrGdde < MouzHasuObs
MillTarson > Serp
EGLzGaMeR > ROOTDdoro
ROOTDestiny > Sterling
Edge < Holder
XxElitexX < FnaticNightend
coLstalife > RevShadow
Ah. I see. Thanks! But how do you know? And when are the other games played? Quite confusing to be honest. 
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That game was painful to watch
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On May 13 2011 07:38 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 07:36 Finrod1 wrote:On May 13 2011 07:33 Alex.IGN wrote:We revealed the round of 32 winners a couple days ago, and are now casting the RO 16! Yeah, but according to the bracket there should be other games? Like tt1 vs moonan? They already played: Round of 32+ Show Spoiler +VPDaedalus vs Theory
MouzMana vs coLRyze
Paranoid vs MYMCloud
LiquidRet vs Nerchio
ROOTCatZ vs Iefnaij
FnaticFenix > Gensulitor
FnaticMSITTI > FXOmOoNaN
MillDieStar > fkcXions
SixjaxViBE > Virus
NrGdde < MouzHasuObs
MillTarson > Serp
EGLzGaMeR > ROOTDdoro
ROOTDestiny > Sterling
Edge < Holder
XxElitexX < FnaticNightend
coLstalife > RevShadow
Many thanks. Pleasantly surprised about Hasu beating dde, would really like to see that one.
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What TLO game was he taking about?
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On May 13 2011 07:33 Redox wrote:
Good thing that there is an open qualification for this.
That way people like Diestar can qualify, which are actually really good but dont get invited to anything because they are no "big names".
Although a point system similar to TSL would have been even better.
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And I am still somewhat mad that only ro16 is casted while there were so many good matches in earlier rounds. :/
TSL system was flawed... It got invites that underperformed.
I hope TSL 4 will be pure qualifiers only.
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On May 13 2011 07:34 Tachion wrote:
All the players in IPL season 1 were American right(or living in america)? So Diestar is the first European to make it into the IPL.
What are the odds all the qualifiers will be EU? 
Edit: Nevermind, it isnt possible. Just a shame the top dogs of EU didnt enter (so far atleast).
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just wanted to say AskJoshy commentary is awsome.
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how were the ro32 matchups decided? it's pretty sad that 2 players from top3 of that ro32 were matched against each other (nerchio vs ret).
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On May 13 2011 07:44 vilg wrote:
how were the ro32 matchups decided? it's pretty sad that 2 players from top3 of that ro32 were matched against each other (nerchio vs ret).
The bracket looks pretty random. That's why some guys have an easy way through. That's the bad side of qualification over invites. Especially without seeding.
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On May 13 2011 07:44 Aristodemus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 07:34 Tachion wrote:
All the players in IPL season 1 were American right(or living in america)? So Diestar is the first European to make it into the IPL. What are the odds all the qualifiers will be EU?
They won't. There are good na/sa players like fenix/tt1/sheth/ that will qualify. There propably will be more eu then na, but all? i don't think so
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On May 13 2011 07:44 vilg wrote:
how were the ro32 matchups decided? it's pretty sad that 2 players from top3 of that ro32 were matched against each other (nerchio vs ret).
They'll just have to play another qualifier.. The competition looks pretty soft to be honest.
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On May 13 2011 07:47 Finrod1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 07:44 Aristodemus wrote:On May 13 2011 07:34 Tachion wrote:
All the players in IPL season 1 were American right(or living in america)? So Diestar is the first European to make it into the IPL. What are the odds all the qualifiers will be EU? They won't. There are good na/sa players like fenix/tt1/sheth/ that will qualify. There propably will be more eu then na, but all? i don't think so
Well TT1 has to try again in next qualifier cup.
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On May 13 2011 07:47 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 07:44 vilg wrote:
how were the ro32 matchups decided? it's pretty sad that 2 players from top3 of that ro32 were matched against each other (nerchio vs ret). They'll just have to play another qualifier.. The competition looks pretty soft to be honest.
Yes the first qualifier didn't look so difficult. But I think a lot more very good players will try in the next tournaments. I think it's very smart to play the first qualifier.
I mean look at Destiny. What an easy bracket!^^
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On May 13 2011 07:47 Finrod1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 07:44 Aristodemus wrote:On May 13 2011 07:34 Tachion wrote:
All the players in IPL season 1 were American right(or living in america)? So Diestar is the first European to make it into the IPL. What are the odds all the qualifiers will be EU? They won't. There are good na/sa players like fenix/tt1/sheth/ that will qualify. There propably will be more eu then na, but all? i don't think so
What is it 28 spots? Idra, kiwi and Select aside (as they are already in) i think it could have been all EU (or EU and Sen) if every top player entered.
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Oh shit LZ plays terran in sc2? How little I know..
On May 13 2011 07:50 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 07:47 hifriend wrote:On May 13 2011 07:44 vilg wrote:
how were the ro32 matchups decided? it's pretty sad that 2 players from top3 of that ro32 were matched against each other (nerchio vs ret). They'll just have to play another qualifier.. The competition looks pretty soft to be honest. Yes the first qualifier didn't look so difficult. But I think a lot more very good players will try in the next tournaments. I think it's very smart to play the first qualifier. I mean look at Destiny. What an easy bracket!^^
They definitely should, it'd be silly not to.  Maybe it wasn't that well advertised?
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Interesting game between LZ and Tarson, though Tarson's macro seems a hell of a lot better.
Both meching, LZ with a faster transition into air Tarson doesn't feel he can break him despite a solid ground advantage.
Probably a window for LZ's bc transition before Tarson catches up on air, but Tarson is definitely aware of it since he's dropped like 5 starports himself.
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Even if Lz's mass air plan doesn't work here on Terminus, I'm thoroughly enjoying this game. Mass air vs mech, and now battlecruisers on the way out for Tarson? Hell yeah!
Now both have BCs!! LOVE IT!
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Sexy tvt between Lz and Tarson
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Hell yeah! That's TvT!
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Who the heck is MillDieStar, and how did he beat TT1 3-0? o.O
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Just flicked on to see if there were any good games going on.....
So many cattlebruisers?
Love it.
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What a ridiculous game lol. Mass battlecruiser fights.
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No yamato used makes me cringe. 
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On May 13 2011 08:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Who the heck is MillDieStar, and how did he beat TT1 3-0? o.O
Very good European Terran , Demuslim has just said today on esl.tv Diestar is underrated.
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They need a couple ghost for emp on the bcs and it will be perfect .
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On May 13 2011 08:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Who the heck is MillDieStar, and how did he beat TT1 3-0? o.O
Eh, the usual. One of the many great EU terrans.
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This game between Tarson and LZ is hilarious lol. Tarson was pumping out 5BC's and 4Thors at a time xD
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so many BC's!
+1 for that game.
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That was very entertaining game.
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Entertaining game, Tarson played really well.
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Thanks blizz for the bc buff .
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Diestar is very good, his problem is that EU has alot of amazing terran who get all the credit.
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Funny thing is that 3 hours ago Demuslim when asked the top5 european terran mentioned Diestars .
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Tarson did well to use all his excess minerals on orbital commands, so he was able to expand very quickly.
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That last engadment was nice for LZ. His upgrades on BC were nice. He lost like 2 and Tarson at the sime time 5. Still Tarson could afford to lose BC's
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On May 13 2011 08:07 Jetaap wrote:Funny thing is that 3 hours ago Demuslim when asked the top5 european terran mentioned Diestars .
Ben knows his shit
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AskJoshy great caster. Calm, to the point. Delight to listen to.
Also thanks for bringing us these IPL Quali tournaments in this form.
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On May 13 2011 08:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Who the heck is MillDieStar, and how did he beat TT1 3-0? o.O
DieStar is playing a lot of online cups and is known for finishing second in most of the tournaments.
Europe has like 10-20 top terrans, so it's hard to make a name outside of Europe without winning (or placing high in) a major event.
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wait, wait wait...
is IGN still using the non-MLG/GSL versions of maps?
I thought we were past this issue..
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On May 13 2011 08:10 Demosthen3s wrote:
AskJoshy great caster. Calm, to the point. Delight to listen to.
Also thanks for bringing us these IPL Quali tournaments in this form.
he really is. Maybe he should have a co-caster with some more "action-talking" when the fights happen but otherwise he is really good to listen to.
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Tarson's looking so strong; doesn't look like LZ will even win one game x.x
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stream freaking out for anyone else?
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On May 13 2011 08:14 wristuzi wrote:
stream freaking out for anyone else?
Yeah, it's down.
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<3 askjoshy casting though.
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yup. is it europe only?
e: no general stream was down...
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wtb stream. Not just Europe. I'm US, can't watch.
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On May 13 2011 08:15 Jayjay54 wrote:
yup. is it europe only?
Shouldn't be.
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Things were going so well. There were lots of happy viewers. I hope it comes back soon.
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Yeah stream died.
They're working on it.
Hopefully the game/ cast is paused until the stream starts working again. Last night's NASL continued while the stream was down, so nearly everyone missed half of a whole game -.-'
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We are back up guys, after we hiccuped a little bit!
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On May 13 2011 08:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Yeah stream died.
They're working on it.
Hopefully the game/ cast is paused until the stream starts working again. Last night's NASL continued while the stream was down, so nearly everyone missed half of a whole game -.-'
They replayed it after the cast was over. I think anyways, it was still on after the last game.
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Are they going to release the replays from this maybe?
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Yay, it's working again. Joshy's trying to get it back to exactly when it died. Apparently his internet committed seppuku for some reason. Tarson is just too epic for it.
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Tarson's macro >> LZ's macro
Expo up much faster too. I don't see this series being anything other than 3-0.
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omg.. the European domination begins...
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LZ pulling a Nada, losing from not sieging tanks.
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Poland > NA
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Lz why even buy siege mode? Get another tank instead.
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damn tarson... that was ridiculous goods
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That 1 viking was pretty genius from Tarson. Pretty genius.
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Good move by LZGaMeR to go for a counter attack with his marines and relying on his tanks for defense. His macro slipped long enough for Tarson to take full advantage with a counter attack after killing all the marines.
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GG Millenium. GG polish terrans! :D
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Tarson so handsome, GG 3-0 =)
Has LZ's macro always been quite this questionable?
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Congrats to Tarson on being our 2nd qualified player for IPL Season 2!
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Wow, great TvT series by Tarson. Played really well to 3-0 LZGaMeR.
gg!
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Thought LZ had that tbh. WP tarson.
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Millenium gaming asserting their fury today!
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Millenium Gaming, very strong so far!
Good stuff from Tarson. 3-0.
gogo Hasu!
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For the 2 set of games not being casted, when will the results be updated"?
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On May 13 2011 08:29 Asha` wrote:
Tarson so handsome, GG 3-0 =)
Has LZ's macro always been quite this questionable?
yes, even in BW.
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no upsets so far...europe doing its thang. gogo hasu!
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Hasu going to put Vibe over his knee!
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gogo hasu!
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On May 13 2011 08:33 Aristodemus wrote:
Hasu going to put Vibe over his knee!
Hope so man!
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On May 13 2011 08:36 ridonkulous wrote:
how old are this games?
They were played Sunday
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quite a sloppy control by vibe
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Like that gateway wall off by hasu, never understood why more people don't do that
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hasu is so good with his positioning and blinking the stalkers. kinda sad for vibe^^
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Vibe never dropped or did multi-pronged attacks all game, which you really need vs this style when using roach/hydra
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what is Vibe thinking?? such poor play after being so far ahead earlygame.
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Roach/hydra/corruptor doesn't work against stalker/collossi. So sick of these types of ZvP's . It's a worthless combo. Need infestors or T3 quicker.
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Very good focus by hasu on the first battle.
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On May 13 2011 08:46 Dexington wrote:
God I hate forcefields.
Without them toss would get rolled every game vrs zerg
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Why were there no infestors? HasuObs did a really good job of not losing colossi during the engagements and at the same time picking off the corruptors.
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vibe still plays roach hydra coruptor.........its getting boring as hell and it does not work...and after 10000000 times it wont work either
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Liking HasuObs' style of PvZ! Really solid and safe - 1 robo getting colo, add upgrades and gateways and get stalkers. Awesome ^^
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Why is there a yellow Terran in the production tab? I've never seen that before.
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On May 13 2011 08:54 garbanzo wrote:
Why is there a yellow Terran in the production tab? I've never seen that before.
It's on a cloaked map, it has something to do with that I believe
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day9 once said that hasu plays solid and adds tiny tricks. that's what we saw in game 1. One lonely voidray just to deny roach pressure instead of harrass. 3 gate block to deny hit and run. other than that just solid play...
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On May 13 2011 08:55 Alex.IGN wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 08:54 garbanzo wrote:
Why is there a yellow Terran in the production tab? I've never seen that before. It's on a cloaked map, it has something to do with that I believe
That's what I thought. I tried to find information on cloaked maps on the forums, but I can't seem to find anything.
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@Alex.IGN: When are you display the results of the non broadcasted games?
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I'm pretty sure this HasuObs game vs Vibe is on the wrong map. Wasn't it supposed to be MLG Shakuras? I think the new MLG Shakuras is the ladder version but with blockers to prevent bottom of the ramp wall off.
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Still no Infestors? Man...
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haha Hasu has observer speed and is using it to follow the mutas :p that's helpful.
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Yeah a couple a infestors to fungal those stalker , would be awsome. Hard though when they have blink.
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the ht switch comes to late :/
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haha I can't believe he replaced that forge in the same place and lost the upgrade twice T_T
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3 storms kills like 80 lings lol
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Ultralisk die so easily T_T
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That's a lot of dead zerglings lol.
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On May 13 2011 09:10 Tachion wrote:
3 storms kills like 80 lings lol
Yeah! That was funny! Hahaha!
But why did he build those 80 lings?
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wow, wasting that many units lol
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Funny that hasu didn't die yet. He is sooo behind all the time :D
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Vibe is really fun to watch, so much nydus usage.
He still does too many mistakes though.
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Yeah... fungal might be even better than EMP against protoss.
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Epic game, now im late for work -_-
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Why didn't hasuobs morph his ht into archons >_>
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What a great game. Well played ViBe
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I hate the stream chat
"Wow, look at what ONE fungal can do. And you call protoss OP?"
Good game from Vibe, just out played Hasu all around.
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On May 13 2011 09:11 KiNGxXx wrote:Yeah! That was funny! Hahaha! But why did he build those 80 lings?
Because he killed all the collosus.
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On May 13 2011 09:14 KonohaFlash wrote:
Why didn't hasuobs morph his ht into archons >_>
Do note this is before the new patch! But yeah should have morphed them non the less after using storms xD.
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when vibe lost/suicided all his mutas I tought for a short moment that he is done. Great defense by hasu.
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well played vibe! outmacroing like a boss.
what is a cloaked map?
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On May 13 2011 09:14 Fruscainte wrote:
I hate the stream chat
"Wow, look at what ONE fungal can do. And you call protoss OP?"
Good game from Vibe, just out played Hasu all around.
Well yeah, when you have ultras, broodlords and infesters that all have 3 attack. i guess fungal can be pretty good on blink stalkers... My god some people are so dumb.
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Really well played by Vibe on a map thats really tough for ZvP. Exploited the immobility of HasuObs composition very well with Muta-Ling.
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Can't see how that was a good game from ViBe. He took a big risk with those Mutalisks, and it paid off, but his execution was way worse than Hasus.
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Hasu better win this
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On May 13 2011 09:15 Jayjay54 wrote:
well played vibe! outmacroing like a boss.
what is a cloaked map?
you can't see the first minute build orders an who has won.
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On May 13 2011 09:16 zawk9 wrote:
Really well played by Vibe on a map thats really tough for ZvP. Exploited the immobility of HasuObs composition very well with Muta-Ling.
well, Hasu wasn`t really immobile with his blink-stalkers
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On May 13 2011 09:16 Toadvine wrote:
Can't see how that was a good game from ViBe. He took a big risk with those Mutalisks, and it paid off, but his execution was way worse than Hasus.
It's a good choice for breaking a turtling protoss, but yeah he did quite a few mistakes. Both of them did though.
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On May 13 2011 09:16 TheHova wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:14 Fruscainte wrote:
I hate the stream chat
"Wow, look at what ONE fungal can do. And you call protoss OP?"
Good game from Vibe, just out played Hasu all around. Well yeah, when you have ultras, broodlords and infesters that all have 3 attack. i guess fungal can be pretty good on blink stalkers... My god some people are so dumb.
I liked the guy that said " Lol he didnt even force field the ramp and let the ultras come in?"
Gotta love stream chats.
Good game though.
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Can't see how that was a good game from ViBe. He took a big risk with those Mutalisks, and it paid off, but his execution was way worse than Hasus.
Why do people keep saying this? When was the last time you've seen a six gate timing kill a Zerg going muta in a competitive game? Hell, the last time I remember Mutas against six gate was Sen in the world championship, and he used them to beat six gate..
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Void rays again from HasuObs? x3
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he teched with like 6 hydras directly to mutas, any kind of aggression would have destroyed him, he was lucky hasu is a huge camper
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On May 13 2011 09:16 zawk9 wrote:
Really well played by Vibe on a map thats really tough for ZvP. Exploited the immobility of HasuObs composition very well with Muta-Ling.
I got pretty down with ZvP a few months ago. I just couldn't get past 3300 masters. It was like i'd hit a brick wall. So i thought well instead of QQing if you truly feel protoss are OP and the best race. Play them. What's the point disadvantaging yourself from the very start by playing a weaker race right?
Played them for a few months on a different account, got to masters again, and i soon realised just how immobile Protoss is and how much you can punish that as a Zerg. I was scared crapless of the mobility of Zerg and on large maps with 3rd/4ths that are quite a distance away (And banelings but that's another story) After learning this along with a lot of timings that i didn't know and the possibilities they can do. I went back to playing Zerg and got into Grandmaster at the end of the season and my ZvP is probably my best and most understood match up. I know it's only ladder but i've had some pretty big scalps of late and tbh i'd never beaten anybody noteworthy until that point.
It's great seeing Zerg's doing it more now. I honestly think it's the way Zerg has to play ZvP right now. Nydus is sooooooo good as well late game.
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On May 13 2011 09:22 ridonkulous wrote:
he teched with like 6 hydras directly to mutas, any kind of aggression would have destroyed him, he was lucky hasu is a huge camper
He was banking money with a hydra den. If hasu put on pressure he would have easily held.
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On May 13 2011 09:19 Mungosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:16 Toadvine wrote:
Can't see how that was a good game from ViBe. He took a big risk with those Mutalisks, and it paid off, but his execution was way worse than Hasus. It's a good choice for breaking a turtling protoss, but yeah he did quite a few mistakes. Both of them did though.
The problem with doing something like that, is that you can just fall over to a random attack. I think Hasu had a timing where he could have just attacked with his blink stalkers and ~3 Colossi and won the game right there (or at least provoked a basetrade).
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that push did a lot of damage. good timing by vibe.
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Tarson!!! Wow, where the hell has he been the last few months? He seemed to dissapear after retail was launched lol, nice to see him winning somes games. Has tarson been inactive or am I just an ignorant North American who knows nothing about European tourneys lol (I had never even heard of Kas before the TSL lol)
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Vibe has terrible macro. 1.7k 1.2k, at only 120 supply? Wtf is up with that lol.
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This game just proves how much better Hasu is
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he could have won much earlier. wtf bad macro and bad decision making of not killing that nexus.
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On May 13 2011 09:28 Aristodemus wrote:
This game just proves how much better Hasu is
Those 4 Phoenixes did x10 more damage than they should have. Definitely bought him time, Hasu looks like he is in a decent position to win now
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On May 13 2011 09:26 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Tarson!!! Wow, where the hell has he been the last few months? He seemed to dissapear after retail was launched lol, nice to see him winning somes games. Has tarson been inactive or am I just an ignorant North American who knows nothing about European tourneys lol (I had never even heard of Kas before the TSL lol)
Tarson went through a quiet spell where he only seemed to really play (publically?) in the IEM lans. He recently started playing in a lot more of the regular EU cups again though ^^
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This game could have looked a lot worse for Hasu, Vibe so late on taking a third having invested pretty hard into that Hydra/ling push and Hasu took a pretty quick third despite losing so much early.
Doesn't seem like it matters, Vibe just pushes in and kills him.
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After the first push it was allready over. Good call by vibe.
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Really loving ViBe's play. :D
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On May 13 2011 09:29 Dommk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:28 Aristodemus wrote:
This game just proves how much better Hasu is Those 4 Phoenixes did x10 more damage than they should have. Definitely bought him time, Hasu looks like he is in a decent position to win now
Yeah...
well played, Vibe.
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Voted Vibe, hell yeah! His game is really becoming something scary, crazier than Idra with mechanics that are only one tier behind.
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On May 13 2011 09:23 Toadvine wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:19 Mungosh wrote:On May 13 2011 09:16 Toadvine wrote:
Can't see how that was a good game from ViBe. He took a big risk with those Mutalisks, and it paid off, but his execution was way worse than Hasus. It's a good choice for breaking a turtling protoss, but yeah he did quite a few mistakes. Both of them did though. The problem with doing something like that, is that you can just fall over to a random attack. I think Hasu had a timing where he could have just attacked with his blink stalkers and ~3 Colossi and won the game right there (or at least provoked a basetrade).
It doesn't work. Vibe specifically does that build to egg the protoss into base trade, if you watch his stream he rarely ever losses to any kind of 2 base attacks. No Protoss ever goes for those kind of attacks anymore since the infestor buffs.
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On May 13 2011 09:26 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Tarson!!! Wow, where the hell has he been the last few months? He seemed to dissapear after retail was launched lol, nice to see him winning somes games. Has tarson been inactive or am I just an ignorant North American who knows nothing about European tourneys lol (I had never even heard of Kas before the TSL lol)
He was pretty inactive for a long while, only taking part in the occasional tournament. Hope he will commit more time to SC2 now, he showed many flashes of brilliance even when he wasn't practicing and his strategies are usually quite unique.
Vibe playing some baller games here too, glad to see him in good form after many people doubted him.
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Vibe with the mad cheese... I guess he's gonna win, which makes me really really sad.
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I wonder if that was effective?
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lol
vibe
so bad
he's like scbw hyuk
getting 8 lings into that and losing 6 while killing only a few probes.
he could have harassed hasu forever until metagame but decides to throw them away
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kinda dissapointed in hasu. he's supposed to have like the best pvz in europe
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7 pool vs a warcraft 3 micro junkie?
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On May 13 2011 09:37 1Eris1 wrote:
kinda dissapointed in hasu. he's supposed to have like the best pvz in europe
PvZ is hard these days yo.
Pretty lolworthy that Hasu is still alive. Those lings should've ended him.
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On May 13 2011 09:37 fruchtzergeis wrote:
lol
vibe
so bad
he's like scbw hyuk
getting 8 lings into that and losing 6 while killing only a few probes.
he could have harassed hasu forever until metagame but decides to throw them away
edit this fast, or chill might have a heart attack
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On May 13 2011 09:37 1Eris1 wrote:
kinda dissapointed in hasu. he's supposed to have like the best pvz in europe
I would say Nani has the best of every MU
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On May 13 2011 09:37 1Eris1 wrote:
kinda dissapointed in hasu. he's supposed to have like the best pvz in europe
I'm sure at least Naniwa and White-ra have better PvZ than him. Hasu didn't look too strong against Morrow in the TSL either.
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On May 13 2011 09:37 1Eris1 wrote:
kinda dissapointed in hasu. he's supposed to have like the best pvz in europe
Nah, that's not true.
Haha, that's the same spot where Morrow lost in TSL!
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On May 13 2011 09:37 1Eris1 wrote:
kinda dissapointed in hasu. he's supposed to have like the best pvz in europe
no that's Naniwa
but vibe is playing risky every game and has some luck with the buildorders
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Wow, love that hydra/ling drop.
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Hasu failing so hard. Players need to simcity better and build cannons grrr.
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Nice play by vive. But i think it was pretty much after the 7pool. congrats vibe for qualifing for ipl!
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Vibe bad macro, while Hasuobs bad multitasking.
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What is Hasu doing? Just falling further behind.
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Vibe is hilariously far ahead
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hasu... you can leave. there are other chances to qualify
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On May 13 2011 09:44 AndAgain wrote:
What is Hasu doing? Just falling further behind.
what should he do? He already lost (after the drop)
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On May 13 2011 09:46 vdale wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:44 AndAgain wrote:
What is Hasu doing? Just falling further behind. what should he do, he already lost.
This. Hasu, you're not Fantasy, you don't have a reputation for hilariously bad GG timings.
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On May 13 2011 09:44 AndAgain wrote:
What is Hasu doing? Just falling further behind.
What would you do? He is doing the right thing, he was just too far behind after the 6 pool.
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On May 13 2011 09:43 Finrod1 wrote:
Nice play by vive. But i think it was pretty much after the 7pool. congrats vibe for qualifing for ipl!
No not at all. It's been a series of fails after that though. Very disappointing from Hasu.
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On May 13 2011 09:44 AndAgain wrote:
What is Hasu doing? Just falling further behind.
wtf is he supposed to do u smartass? he was dead after 7pool
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On May 13 2011 09:46 vdale wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:44 AndAgain wrote:
What is Hasu doing? Just falling further behind. what should he do? He already lost (after the drop)
Just attack with what he has. He will never be in a better position anyway.
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On May 13 2011 09:38 Yaotzin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:37 1Eris1 wrote:
kinda dissapointed in hasu. he's supposed to have like the best pvz in europe PvZ is hard these days yo. Pretty lolworthy that Hasu is still alive. Those lings should've ended him.
Yea most protoss pro's say zvp is their hardest matchup(recently). Vibe was saying in NASL yesterday that ZVP has gotten alot easier for him recently even though a few months ago it was his worst matchup.
Its so hard for a protoss if a zerg plays like this, like i honestly dont know what hasu could have done to stop that. I guess he should have 4 gated and not let it happen
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On May 13 2011 09:46 vdale wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:44 AndAgain wrote:
What is Hasu doing? Just falling further behind. what should he do? He already lost (after the drop)
time for hero dts;)
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LOL this is so frusterating to watch as a protoss player, mutas are so annoying.
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Vibe is just toying with Hasu now. He could a-move with mutas and win.
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It's kind of amazing tbh, ViBe is really executing everything worse than Hasu is, but still winning nonetheless. Guess you don't have to be three times better to beat a Protoss as Zerg.
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On May 13 2011 09:47 AndAgain wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:46 vdale wrote:On May 13 2011 09:44 AndAgain wrote:
What is Hasu doing? Just falling further behind. what should he do? He already lost (after the drop) Just attack with what he has. He will never be in a better position anyway.
Thats ridiculous. He can barely even contest the muta, there is no way he would ever be able to keep up with the zergs reinforcement, the only chance he has is just drag the game on because he has superior macro/mechanics than Vibe
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getting a bit aggressive looking at this muta harass, at a decent number you are simply outplayed.
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The series wasn't that great. Hasu just played poorly against vibe's muta style. Anyways, congrats vibe.
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Damn Hasu
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Wish vibe would play like this in NASL =/
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"g" Tal darim Altar was well played by viBe. 7pool into 5base/mass muta. ^_________^
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Congrats to Diestar, Tarson and ViBE for qualifying for IPL Season 2!
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Well played by ViBe, that harass was crazy.
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On May 13 2011 09:49 Toadvine wrote:
It's kind of amazing tbh, ViBe is really executing everything worse than Hasu is, but still winning nonetheless. Guess you don't have to be three times better to beat a Protoss as Zerg.
lol? This game was over after the 7 pool did so much damage too the probes. Killed sooo many. Vibe played better overall, hasu had 1 control group syndrome alot and would lose a colossi stupidly trying too deal with muta's because they dont' have the obstacles that a stalker has. not once in this game was vibe in trouble of losing he had the advantage from the beginning.
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That series made me sad. Hoped HasuObs would win.
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On May 13 2011 09:48 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:38 Yaotzin wrote:On May 13 2011 09:37 1Eris1 wrote:
kinda dissapointed in hasu. he's supposed to have like the best pvz in europe PvZ is hard these days yo. Pretty lolworthy that Hasu is still alive. Those lings should've ended him. Yea most protoss pro's say zvp is their hardest matchup(recently). Vibe was saying in NASL yesterday that ZVP has gotten alot easier for him recently even though a few months ago it was his worst matchup. Its so hard for a protoss if a zerg plays like this, like i honestly dont know what hasu could have done to stop that. I guess he should have 4 gated and not let it happen
Yeh hard to believe how big a turnaround the MU has had.
He just made so many fails that game so eh. Letting the lings in, terrible drop/muta defence...bleh. People need to simcity much better and be less greedy with the cannons. Cannons are awesome!
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On May 13 2011 09:49 Dommk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:47 AndAgain wrote:On May 13 2011 09:46 vdale wrote:On May 13 2011 09:44 AndAgain wrote:
What is Hasu doing? Just falling further behind. what should he do? He already lost (after the drop) Just attack with what he has. He will never be in a better position anyway. Thats ridiculous. He can barely even contest the muta, there is no way he would ever be able to keep up with the zergs reinforcement, the only chance he has is just drag the game on because he has superior macro/mechanics than Vibe
He was only down 25 supply at one point (with fewer workers.) The army gap is only going to get bigger. You might as well attack and try to micro your ass off. If he had a 0.03% chance of victory, it turned into 0% by sitting back and getting more behind.
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HasuObs might be the better player but he didn't play well this series, thus losing to ViBe...
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On May 13 2011 09:49 Toadvine wrote:
It's kind of amazing tbh, ViBe is really executing everything worse than Hasu is, but still winning nonetheless. Guess you don't have to be three times better to beat a Protoss as Zerg.
you never had to be. Its just bad zergs crying because they dont want to actually learn to play the game. Look at vibe in the first game, when he played "idra style".. he got dominated.. Then when he used more units than roach/corrupter, even with his horrible micro he still beat hasu (a much better player) in 3 games. Its funny how using more than 2 units can completely turn a matchup around.
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On May 13 2011 09:49 Toadvine wrote:
It's kind of amazing tbh, ViBe is really executing everything worse than Hasu is, but still winning nonetheless. Guess you don't have to be three times better to beat a Protoss as Zerg.
ViBe executing worse than Hasu? He was attacking multiple locations and dropping whilst maintaining macro and managing 4 bases. How could that possibly be executing worse!? You're a maniac.
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On May 13 2011 09:51 HeroHenry wrote:
Wish vibe would play like this in NASL =/
He's on a 2 win streak in NASL I believe :D
He has crazy apm
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ViBE is an amazing amazing player. Holy crap.
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On May 13 2011 09:53 mpf189 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:51 HeroHenry wrote:
Wish vibe would play like this in NASL =/ He's on a 2 win streak in NASL I believe :D He has crazy apm
Against the 2 people that are 0-5 in his group tbf. It'll be interesting to see how he performs next week. He certainly seems less nervous than before.
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On May 13 2011 09:47 AndAgain wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:46 vdale wrote:On May 13 2011 09:44 AndAgain wrote:
What is Hasu doing? Just falling further behind. what should he do? He already lost (after the drop) Just attack with what he has. He will never be in a better position anyway.
yea he was only about 10 supply behind and i think it was in workers at the point where he was pushing across the map i think he could have possibly taken it if not done alot of damage, and it would have forced vibe to keep the stalkers in his base and potentially lose them all, all he really had were some hydras and 7-8 mutas at that time.
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On May 13 2011 09:52 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:49 Toadvine wrote:
It's kind of amazing tbh, ViBe is really executing everything worse than Hasu is, but still winning nonetheless. Guess you don't have to be three times better to beat a Protoss as Zerg. lol? This game was over after the 7 pool did so much damage too the probes. Killed sooo many. Vibe played better overall, hasu had 1 control group syndrome alot and would lose a colossi stupidly trying too deal with muta's because they dont' have the obstacles that a stalker has. not once in this game was vibe in trouble of losing he had the advantage from the beginning.
ViBe didn't play better overall. He had much worse mechanics and decision making, he just managed to get ahead due to build orders early and carried that out for the rest of the game.
Hasu was actually splitting units up, the one time he lost Colossus to muta was when he was trying to get to his natural and the Colossus walked up the cliff whilst the stalkers were walking around, at the same time he was getting dropped in the main. He was defending like a champ considering when he got dropped he had 1 Colossus, 3 Stalkers 3 sentry and a few zealots.
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Looks like zergs are starting to understand the concept of supply efficiency. The MU was never imbalanced, it's just that maxing out with roaches and just sitting back is a completely irrational way to play.
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On May 13 2011 09:52 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:49 Toadvine wrote:
It's kind of amazing tbh, ViBe is really executing everything worse than Hasu is, but still winning nonetheless. Guess you don't have to be three times better to beat a Protoss as Zerg. lol? This game was over after the 7 pool did so much damage too the probes. Killed sooo many. Vibe played better overall, hasu had 1 control group syndrome alot and would lose a colossi stupidly trying too deal with muta's because they dont' have the obstacles that a stalker has. not once in this game was vibe in trouble of losing he had the advantage from the beginning.
I was talking about the whole series in general. Although it's quite funny actually, ViBe had the game 100% won when his lings got past the cannon, but he still managed to fail and let them get surrounded, thus almost letting Hasu back into it.
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This is the first time I've actually been impressed by Vibe, beating Grubby and Artosis isn't much of an accomplishment right now, but HasuObs is a pretty strong Protoss, not to mention beating Minigun in the IPL which was quite surprising considering Minigun decimated him the last time they met.
Using those mutas to keep the Protoss unable to move around was really good stuff.
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People say that HasuObs was way behind after the 7 pool but they were even on harvesters...
I feel like the real issue was that HasuObs got a little greedy trying to setup his economy with minimal units for defense. Losing the main nexus to a group of lings and a few hydras because he had to defend his expo with his entire force of about a half dozen stalkers and one colossi was the clincher.
Zerg timing attacks are really strong against Protoss, most of whom play quite greedy. HasuObs lost two games because he basically had too few units to defend.
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On May 13 2011 09:53 Cops wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 09:49 Toadvine wrote:
It's kind of amazing tbh, ViBe is really executing everything worse than Hasu is, but still winning nonetheless. Guess you don't have to be three times better to beat a Protoss as Zerg. ViBe executing worse than Hasu? He was attacking multiple locations and dropping whilst maintaining macro and managing 4 bases. How could that possibly be executing worse!? You're a maniac.
He was floating 2k minerals and only starting his third during that drop harass. Which was quite good, I agree, but with the army advantage he had at that point, it really wasn't hard to make those drops do damage.
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On May 13 2011 09:56 Azarkon wrote:
People say that HasuObs was way behind after the 7 pool but they were even on harvesters...
I feel like the real issue was that HasuObs got a little greedy trying to setup his economy with minimal units for defense. Losing the main nexus to a group of lings and a few hydras because he had to defend his expo with his entire force of about a half dozen stalkers and one colossi was the clincher.
Zerg timing attacks are really strong against Protoss, most of whom play quite greedy. HasuObs lost two games because he basically had too few units to defend.
Fast colossus is how you deal with Hydra drops. You cant defend Hydra/Ling with Stalker/Sentry/Cannons, you eventually die once your forcefields run out. You need the Colossus to kite the Hydra and aoe the lings.
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After ViBe's initial performances in the NASL i was a bit sceptical and more than expected the TSL3 semi-finalist to take care of him, but ViBe showed what all the hype is all about; i was pretty impressed with his play in this series, particularly in the dreaded ZvP match up
Well played!
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Why doesn't Hasu use photon cannons to defend in addition to the stalkers? Against mass mutalisks I mean.
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i ask joshy, to not state every tiny aspect, which the viewer can see anyway. also to think a little more, before talking about tactics. "hasuobs with no defence at the main mineral line" at min 5 or 6, like what? preperation for 1 base mutas? i could give more examples.
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Im startin to love vibe more n more everytime he crushes someone, that guy has such a nice style of play :o
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On May 13 2011 09:59 KevinIX wrote:
Why doesn't Hasu use photon cannons to defend in addition to the stalkers? Against mass mutalisks I mean.
you really think cannons can stop mass mutalisk?? seriously, cannons are horrid against mutas over the count of 5. You are much better off getting stalkers with blink.
Actually, the only way I've felt comfortable dealing with mutas lately is phoenix, or maybe storm lategame (but doesnt stop the harassing). Mass muta owns blink stalkers hard. Going phoenix forces a corrupter switch, in which lowers their food for other units until broodlords are ready (in which case if you havent killed him by then, you are dead anyways)
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Are there going to be VODs released of these qualifier matches?
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Thanks very much to the several thousand viewers we had today! Sorry for the hiccup or two, but stuff happens sometimes. I'll do my best to clean it up for next Thursday when I cast the second qualifier's semis and finals. =D
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On May 13 2011 10:14 Dibond wrote:
Are there going to be VODs released of these qualifier matches?
Right now we are focused on the live viewer experience.
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Is there any extra incentive to actually win the qualifier? Everyone who won today is in season 2, right? Is there some major money difference for 1st place, etc?
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The rounds after qualifying determine seeding for the main event. =)
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On May 13 2011 10:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Is there any extra incentive to actually win the qualifier? Everyone who won today is in season 2, right? Is there some major money difference for 1st place, etc?
better seeding.
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Wow—vibe took out hasuobs.
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^ vibes really good yo gjgj.
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Wow, completely different results to what I was expecting. Way to go Mill!
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On May 13 2011 16:29 -Archangel- wrote:
Did Destiny qualify?
You will find out tomorrow!
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The games are already really interesting and I'm really looking forward to IPL S2. I think IPL is the best run tournament in existence right now.
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Booyaka! Booyaka!
Sixjax ViBe!
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Enjoyed the casting by Joshy. Nice work IPL team.
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really glad for ViBe! Keep on improving man!
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Congrats to all the winners, good to see Tarson getting some results again. Have noticed he's become more active in the EU scene again, although not as dominant as before. He's still got it I guess.
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can some 1 link me to the vod from the qualifiers ? cant find it : (
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Tough draw for Drewbie round 2 Fenix.
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I dont think there are any vods up yet. I'm waiting and trying my best to avoid spoilers My schedule doesnt work with when these qualifiers are being cast
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Glad TT1 lost hard, good results.
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We will not be having VODs for the first day of the qualifiers at this time - we were focusing on the live portion of the qualifiers.
We will have a jtv recording of the rest of the broadcasts to provide VODs.
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On May 14 2011 01:57 Alex.IGN wrote:
We will not be having VODs for the first day of the qualifiers at this time - we were focusing on the live portion of the qualifiers.
We will have a jtv recording of the rest of the broadcasts to provide VODs.
oh jtv VOD is fine but is it up and I cant finde it ? or will be up later ?
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Millenium guys coming out of nowhere with this. Congratz to them!
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On May 14 2011 03:50 qbs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2011 01:57 Alex.IGN wrote:
We will not be having VODs for the first day of the qualifiers at this time - we were focusing on the live portion of the qualifiers.
We will have a jtv recording of the rest of the broadcasts to provide VODs. oh jtv VOD is fine but is it up and I cant finde it ? or will be up later ?
We won't have it for Day 1, but we will have it for Day 2
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Nestea plays the game the way it's "supposed" to be played... and July doesn't?
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