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HuTSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia188 Posts
May 09 2011 11:56 GMT
#1721
I like the Zerg QQ after all this time.

MKP was doing these builds in Season 2, and all that's happening is the same cry imba shit.

Grow up.
caster0123
Profile Joined October 2010
324 Posts
May 09 2011 11:56 GMT
#1722
zenio took a third
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
May 09 2011 11:56 GMT
#1723
On May 09 2011 20:54 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 20:52 Poopi wrote:
On May 09 2011 20:51 tomatriedes wrote:
On May 09 2011 20:48 Poopi wrote:
The only way to beat a zerg is double rax bunker? I guess Mvp was right.


Yes, this one game is complete and utter incontrovertible proof that double rax bunker is the only way to beat zerg.

Every terran has been doing 2rax bunker (FXOpen : sC, MKP. GSL : Mvp, sC, Jinro, maybe other) recently...


So this is the only way to beat zerg. Nobody has won a single game with any other build?


MvP and Keen have but both the zergs they played made a lot of mistakes.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
MLG_Wiggin
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States767 Posts
May 09 2011 11:56 GMT
#1724
On May 09 2011 20:54 schmutttt wrote:
12 rax 14 rax is your standard 2 rax build, 11 rax 11 rax is a lot more all inish, especially when you send 6 SCVs.

Don't know why Jinro is going cheese crazy this series, whether it is desperation or a new style? And I'm sorry but 2 rax on 11 supply is cheese (I don't consider the normal 12 rax/14 rax cheese unless you pull like 5 SCVs).

12/14 isn't standard anymore because it can't pressure, Zergs are too solid while macroing. To be perfectly honest, you HAVE to deal damage because you just can't keep up with Zerg Macro (at least as far as any Terran can figure out). I really hope someone can figure out a way to play macro on even footing with a Zerg.
@DBWiggin, SC2 ref
proxY_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1561 Posts
May 09 2011 11:56 GMT
#1725
Zenio taking a third and hes 11 workers up...............Jinro hasn't landed his natural yet.
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
May 09 2011 11:56 GMT
#1726
2 rax bunker is STANDARD Terran response to hatch first people...if you don't do some kind of early harass YOU'RE ALREADY BEHIND because Zergs get 50 drones by the time you have your second CC landed with 25 scvs.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 09 2011 11:56 GMT
#1727
Jinro supply blocked, nooo !
In the first game, his maynard was missed and he didn't bring back the long mining scv's (very little mistake, but he never made that mistake before)
Now supply block, same thing, he never was supply blocking himself before.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
May 09 2011 11:56 GMT
#1728
On May 09 2011 20:55 hydraden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 20:48 Pajegetc wrote:
On May 09 2011 20:47 alepov wrote:
what a joke, how can T's be proud of this kind of play, oh well, he will get stomped in a straight up match again anyway


Ever try playing TvZ in a straight up macro game? If you don't put on any early pressure, you lose basically.


Early pressure and cheese are so different. What jinro did were cheeses.

So. The. Fuck. What. Cheese is a part of the game. DEAL WITH IT.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Asparagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States269 Posts
May 09 2011 11:56 GMT
#1729
On May 09 2011 20:55 hydraden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 20:48 Pajegetc wrote:
On May 09 2011 20:47 alepov wrote:
what a joke, how can T's be proud of this kind of play, oh well, he will get stomped in a straight up match again anyway


Ever try playing TvZ in a straight up macro game? If you don't put on any early pressure, you lose basically.


Early pressure and cheese are so different. What jinro did were cheeses.


Jinrain gotta stay in code-s mang. Do what it takes, they don't think it is, but it do.
This isn't the right quote!
Sickworld
Profile Joined March 2011
437 Posts
May 09 2011 11:56 GMT
#1730
On May 09 2011 20:54 diLLa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 20:53 w_Ender_w wrote:
Why do people expect Jinro to literally solve TvZ macro during the middle of a match when his Code S is on the line? lol


i dont think they do, i think people just rather see zenio in code S after seeing game 1 which was pretty good to watch, jinro got rolled in it.

People feel zenio deserves it more, thats all

thats exactly how i feel. its fine that jinro is doing what it takes to move on, but its not entertaining. zenio has shown a very good macro game and probably would show better games than jinro if he moved on
Leave it to me
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
May 09 2011 11:57 GMT
#1731
as much as i hate 2 rax bunker rush, its pretty damn standard and not all in

its boring, but people should stop whining
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
May 09 2011 11:57 GMT
#1732
Almost fully saturated 3rd base from Zenio, Jinro hasn't even floated his orbital to natural.
Sioo
Profile Joined May 2011
9 Posts
May 09 2011 11:57 GMT
#1733
jinros build counters the spanishwa style
early aggression
force him to lings, thats pretty smart..
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
May 09 2011 11:57 GMT
#1734
On May 09 2011 20:56 Shalaiyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 20:55 qbs wrote:
On May 09 2011 20:53 0ne wrote:
Bunker rush is a very useful talent toi have


acualty T have very hard time lately vs zerg : d so i dont blame him


That's because the only terran in the fucking game making ghosts (against Z) is TLO. Ghosts destroy both infestors and brood lords, yet nobody makes them.

Because you need tanks, medivacs and upgrades? I agree more Terrans should try and incorporate ghosts against zerg but it's not as easy as it sounds.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Yang Wenli
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2283 Posts
May 09 2011 11:57 GMT
#1735
Does it really matter if its all-in or not? Jinro is fighting to stay in Code S, he's doing whatever it takes to win. Cheese/no cheese or whatever the nonsense is he's playing to Win.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
May 09 2011 11:57 GMT
#1736
On May 09 2011 20:56 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 20:54 tomatriedes wrote:
On May 09 2011 20:52 Poopi wrote:
On May 09 2011 20:51 tomatriedes wrote:
On May 09 2011 20:48 Poopi wrote:
The only way to beat a zerg is double rax bunker? I guess Mvp was right.


Yes, this one game is complete and utter incontrovertible proof that double rax bunker is the only way to beat zerg.

Every terran has been doing 2rax bunker (FXOpen : sC, MKP. GSL : Mvp, sC, Jinro, maybe other) recently...


So this is the only way to beat zerg. Nobody has won a single game with any other build?


MvP and Keen have but both the zergs they played made a lot of mistakes.

Plus Mvp was WAY better than any of the code A zergs.
WriterMaru
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
May 09 2011 11:57 GMT
#1737
On May 09 2011 20:56 Scila wrote:
2 rax bunker is STANDARD Terran response to hatch first people...if you don't do some kind of early harass YOU'RE ALREADY BEHIND because Zergs get 50 drones by the time you have your second CC landed with 25 scvs.


One minor problem, Zenio didn't hatch first.


+ Show Spoiler +
Durrrr....
Lanaia is love.
qbs
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland771 Posts
May 09 2011 11:57 GMT
#1738
omg jinro scout !!!! : ( 3rd base : (
DeMusliM !!!
proxY_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1561 Posts
May 09 2011 11:57 GMT
#1739
Jinro has no idea the third is up, Zenio with the supply lead.
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
May 09 2011 11:57 GMT
#1740
Jinro has no idea of the 3rd location, same as game before with the massive drop he missed. Poor scouting letting him down.
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