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On May 09 2011 11:50 s4life wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 11:48 FliedLice wrote:On May 09 2011 11:43 Uhh Negative wrote:On May 09 2011 11:42 Chicane wrote:On May 09 2011 11:40 Uhh Negative wrote:
Meh I'm kind of losing faith in the NASL as an international tournament. Cross-region play is just too unpredictable. I disagree... there is always delay/lag, which is quite predictable. The only thing is, everyone looks at it as... if a good Korean player wins, it was a good game and they out played their opponent, when they lose, it was all because of the lag, and cross region play is not good. I am not saying there is no disadvantage with cross region latency when they lose... but at the same time it seems people look at it as a black and white situation. Yeah but we are just seeing results that just aren't reflective of the players actual skill. Maybe SC2 is just too young and unpredictable still. Koreans just shouldn't play in the NASL, to be honest. Tell that to the 980123901309434 people who were raging at NASL because they dared to invite Americans and Europeans instead of the whole fucking GSL roster, lo. Nah.. it's just the Idra fanboys releasing their rage here... just coz he said cross-server play is impossible to play.. and you know his word is like scripture.
Oh come on. Just watch some of the Koreans play, it's jjust so blantantly obvious. Just because not everyone lags doesn't mean it doesn't exist
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ffs geoff breathing like a creeper
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On May 09 2011 11:51 Mordiford wrote:
Oh my god, Geoff is that you breathing? It's SO FUCKING LOUD!
Holy shit.
Lighter breaths bro, did you just run a marathon?
Anyone else noticing that?
i actually came to this thread to see if anyone else was noticing that lol
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On May 09 2011 11:51 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 11:50 s4life wrote:On May 09 2011 11:48 FliedLice wrote:On May 09 2011 11:43 Uhh Negative wrote:On May 09 2011 11:42 Chicane wrote:On May 09 2011 11:40 Uhh Negative wrote:
Meh I'm kind of losing faith in the NASL as an international tournament. Cross-region play is just too unpredictable. I disagree... there is always delay/lag, which is quite predictable. The only thing is, everyone looks at it as... if a good Korean player wins, it was a good game and they out played their opponent, when they lose, it was all because of the lag, and cross region play is not good. I am not saying there is no disadvantage with cross region latency when they lose... but at the same time it seems people look at it as a black and white situation. Yeah but we are just seeing results that just aren't reflective of the players actual skill. Maybe SC2 is just too young and unpredictable still. Koreans just shouldn't play in the NASL, to be honest. Tell that to the 980123901309434 people who were raging at NASL because they dared to invite Americans and Europeans instead of the whole fucking GSL roster, lo. Nah.. it's just the Idra fanboys releasing their rage here... just coz he said cross-server play is impossible to play.. and you know his word is like scripture. Oh come on. Just watch some of the Koreans play, it's jjust so blantantly obvious. Just because not everyone lags doesn't mean it doesn't exist
Then watch some other koreans play and see how it's not blatantly obvious.
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On May 09 2011 11:51 Vorlik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 11:50 ceciljacobs wrote:
not reflective of whose skill exactly? did you forget zenio went 0-3 in his gsl group and hasn't been a dominant player since like gsl 2? rainbow's been picked first by code A winners two seasons running. the only 'top' korean who's arguably underperforming is MC (whose lost once to a korean and once to time mismanagement) MC also lost to ret.
Ret is basically at korean level
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Talking about protoss or Naniwa during a TvZ looks really really bad! Shame on you Geoff and your brotoss bias!
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idra going to bust... he's not makign drones
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IdrA going all-in. Painuser with tanks, this does not look well.
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On May 09 2011 11:49 hiawatha wrote:
You know how people say if you think they can do a better job at something then they should do it themselves? I know for a fact I can do a better job with NASL production than these people.
I got the same thing with being the Oakland Raiders GM.
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On May 09 2011 11:51 Mordiford wrote:
Oh my god, Geoff is that you breathing? It's SO FUCKING LOUD!
Holy shit.
Lighter breaths bro, did you just run a marathon?
Anyone else noticing that?
yeah.. I am.
XD
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On May 09 2011 11:52 FliedLice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 11:51 1Eris1 wrote:On May 09 2011 11:50 s4life wrote:On May 09 2011 11:48 FliedLice wrote:On May 09 2011 11:43 Uhh Negative wrote:On May 09 2011 11:42 Chicane wrote:On May 09 2011 11:40 Uhh Negative wrote:
Meh I'm kind of losing faith in the NASL as an international tournament. Cross-region play is just too unpredictable. I disagree... there is always delay/lag, which is quite predictable. The only thing is, everyone looks at it as... if a good Korean player wins, it was a good game and they out played their opponent, when they lose, it was all because of the lag, and cross region play is not good. I am not saying there is no disadvantage with cross region latency when they lose... but at the same time it seems people look at it as a black and white situation. Yeah but we are just seeing results that just aren't reflective of the players actual skill. Maybe SC2 is just too young and unpredictable still. Koreans just shouldn't play in the NASL, to be honest. Tell that to the 980123901309434 people who were raging at NASL because they dared to invite Americans and Europeans instead of the whole fucking GSL roster, lo. Nah.. it's just the Idra fanboys releasing their rage here... just coz he said cross-server play is impossible to play.. and you know his word is like scripture. Oh come on. Just watch some of the Koreans play, it's jjust so blantantly obvious. Just because not everyone lags doesn't mean it doesn't exist Then watch some other koreans play and see how it's not blatantly obvious.
Although they may not be lagging the latency is higher which koreans aren't used to
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Idra going roach zergling all in
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On May 09 2011 11:51 Vorlik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 11:50 ceciljacobs wrote:
not reflective of whose skill exactly? did you forget zenio went 0-3 in his gsl group and hasn't been a dominant player since like gsl 2? rainbow's been picked first by code A winners two seasons running. the only 'top' korean who's arguably underperforming is MC (whose lost once to a korean and once to time mismanagement) MC also lost to ret.
MC lost to ret because he did shitty builds. No reason to play so risky when you could probably beat the guy in a straight up game.
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On May 09 2011 11:51 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 11:50 s4life wrote:On May 09 2011 11:48 FliedLice wrote:On May 09 2011 11:43 Uhh Negative wrote:On May 09 2011 11:42 Chicane wrote:On May 09 2011 11:40 Uhh Negative wrote:
Meh I'm kind of losing faith in the NASL as an international tournament. Cross-region play is just too unpredictable. I disagree... there is always delay/lag, which is quite predictable. The only thing is, everyone looks at it as... if a good Korean player wins, it was a good game and they out played their opponent, when they lose, it was all because of the lag, and cross region play is not good. I am not saying there is no disadvantage with cross region latency when they lose... but at the same time it seems people look at it as a black and white situation. Yeah but we are just seeing results that just aren't reflective of the players actual skill. Maybe SC2 is just too young and unpredictable still. Koreans just shouldn't play in the NASL, to be honest. Tell that to the 980123901309434 people who were raging at NASL because they dared to invite Americans and Europeans instead of the whole fucking GSL roster, lo. Nah.. it's just the Idra fanboys releasing their rage here... just coz he said cross-server play is impossible to play.. and you know his word is like scripture. Oh come on. Just watch some of the Koreans play, it's jjust so blantantly obvious. Just because not everyone lags doesn't mean it doesn't exist
Soooo... it just so happens that when Koreans lose.. it's gotta be the lag. But when supernova, hero, theSTC and MKP absolutely trash everyone in the FXOpens it's because they are just too good. If this isn't a clear example of a double standard I don't know what is.
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On May 09 2011 11:52 MUFFINS1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 11:51 Vorlik wrote:On May 09 2011 11:50 ceciljacobs wrote:
not reflective of whose skill exactly? did you forget zenio went 0-3 in his gsl group and hasn't been a dominant player since like gsl 2? rainbow's been picked first by code A winners two seasons running. the only 'top' korean who's arguably underperforming is MC (whose lost once to a korean and once to time mismanagement) MC also lost to ret. Ret is basically at korean level
I really wish he could perform at that level IN korea!
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On May 09 2011 11:51 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 11:50 s4life wrote:On May 09 2011 11:48 FliedLice wrote:On May 09 2011 11:43 Uhh Negative wrote:On May 09 2011 11:42 Chicane wrote:On May 09 2011 11:40 Uhh Negative wrote:
Meh I'm kind of losing faith in the NASL as an international tournament. Cross-region play is just too unpredictable. I disagree... there is always delay/lag, which is quite predictable. The only thing is, everyone looks at it as... if a good Korean player wins, it was a good game and they out played their opponent, when they lose, it was all because of the lag, and cross region play is not good. I am not saying there is no disadvantage with cross region latency when they lose... but at the same time it seems people look at it as a black and white situation. Yeah but we are just seeing results that just aren't reflective of the players actual skill. Maybe SC2 is just too young and unpredictable still. Koreans just shouldn't play in the NASL, to be honest. Tell that to the 980123901309434 people who were raging at NASL because they dared to invite Americans and Europeans instead of the whole fucking GSL roster, lo. Nah.. it's just the Idra fanboys releasing their rage here... just coz he said cross-server play is impossible to play.. and you know his word is like scripture. Oh come on. Just watch some of the Koreans play, it's jjust so blantantly obvious. Just because not everyone lags doesn't mean it doesn't exist
yeah, like last night Squirtle vs Kawaiirice on Crossfire, it was so painful to watch. Those forcefields... 
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On May 09 2011 11:52 MUFFINS1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 11:51 Vorlik wrote:On May 09 2011 11:50 ceciljacobs wrote:
not reflective of whose skill exactly? did you forget zenio went 0-3 in his gsl group and hasn't been a dominant player since like gsl 2? rainbow's been picked first by code A winners two seasons running. the only 'top' korean who's arguably underperforming is MC (whose lost once to a korean and once to time mismanagement) MC also lost to ret. Ret is basically at korean level
MC let a nydus worm pop in his base next to a pylon, within vision.
That game had to do with MC playing awful, lag didn't matter ;P
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On May 09 2011 11:51 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 11:50 s4life wrote:On May 09 2011 11:48 FliedLice wrote:On May 09 2011 11:43 Uhh Negative wrote:On May 09 2011 11:42 Chicane wrote:On May 09 2011 11:40 Uhh Negative wrote:
Meh I'm kind of losing faith in the NASL as an international tournament. Cross-region play is just too unpredictable. I disagree... there is always delay/lag, which is quite predictable. The only thing is, everyone looks at it as... if a good Korean player wins, it was a good game and they out played their opponent, when they lose, it was all because of the lag, and cross region play is not good. I am not saying there is no disadvantage with cross region latency when they lose... but at the same time it seems people look at it as a black and white situation. Yeah but we are just seeing results that just aren't reflective of the players actual skill. Maybe SC2 is just too young and unpredictable still. Koreans just shouldn't play in the NASL, to be honest. Tell that to the 980123901309434 people who were raging at NASL because they dared to invite Americans and Europeans instead of the whole fucking GSL roster, lo. Nah.. it's just the Idra fanboys releasing their rage here... just coz he said cross-server play is impossible to play.. and you know his word is like scripture. Oh come on. Just watch some of the Koreans play, it's jjust so blantantly obvious. Just because not everyone lags doesn't mean it doesn't exist
Idra fan boys? are all of team liquid staff/players idra fan boys too? and thats why they wont play in eg's league because of lag issues?
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On May 09 2011 11:52 Falcor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 11:51 Mordiford wrote:
Oh my god, Geoff is that you breathing? It's SO FUCKING LOUD!
Holy shit.
Lighter breaths bro, did you just run a marathon?
Anyone else noticing that? i actually came to this thread to see if anyone else was noticing that lol
Yeah I hear it as well. Now that i noticed it it's cutting through everything for me.
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