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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 09 2011 02:51 GMT
#721
On May 09 2011 11:50 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 11:48 FliedLice wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:43 Uhh Negative wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:42 Chicane wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:40 Uhh Negative wrote:
Meh I'm kind of losing faith in the NASL as an international tournament. Cross-region play is just too unpredictable.


I disagree... there is always delay/lag, which is quite predictable.

The only thing is, everyone looks at it as... if a good Korean player wins, it was a good game and they out played their opponent, when they lose, it was all because of the lag, and cross region play is not good.

I am not saying there is no disadvantage with cross region latency when they lose... but at the same time it seems people look at it as a black and white situation.

Yeah but we are just seeing results that just aren't reflective of the players actual skill. Maybe SC2 is just too young and unpredictable still.

Koreans just shouldn't play in the NASL, to be honest.


Tell that to the 980123901309434 people who were raging at NASL because they dared to invite Americans and Europeans instead of the whole fucking GSL roster, lo.


Nah.. it's just the Idra fanboys releasing their rage here... just coz he said cross-server play is impossible to play.. and you know his word is like scripture.



Oh come on. Just watch some of the Koreans play, it's jjust so blantantly obvious. Just because not everyone lags doesn't mean it doesn't exist
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
scatmango2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States408 Posts
May 09 2011 02:52 GMT
#722
ffs geoff breathing like a creeper
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
May 09 2011 02:52 GMT
#723
On May 09 2011 11:51 Mordiford wrote:
Oh my god, Geoff is that you breathing? It's SO FUCKING LOUD!

Holy shit.

Lighter breaths bro, did you just run a marathon?

Anyone else noticing that?


i actually came to this thread to see if anyone else was noticing that lol
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 09 2011 02:52 GMT
#724
On May 09 2011 11:51 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 11:50 s4life wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:48 FliedLice wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:43 Uhh Negative wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:42 Chicane wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:40 Uhh Negative wrote:
Meh I'm kind of losing faith in the NASL as an international tournament. Cross-region play is just too unpredictable.


I disagree... there is always delay/lag, which is quite predictable.

The only thing is, everyone looks at it as... if a good Korean player wins, it was a good game and they out played their opponent, when they lose, it was all because of the lag, and cross region play is not good.

I am not saying there is no disadvantage with cross region latency when they lose... but at the same time it seems people look at it as a black and white situation.

Yeah but we are just seeing results that just aren't reflective of the players actual skill. Maybe SC2 is just too young and unpredictable still.

Koreans just shouldn't play in the NASL, to be honest.


Tell that to the 980123901309434 people who were raging at NASL because they dared to invite Americans and Europeans instead of the whole fucking GSL roster, lo.


Nah.. it's just the Idra fanboys releasing their rage here... just coz he said cross-server play is impossible to play.. and you know his word is like scripture.



Oh come on. Just watch some of the Koreans play, it's jjust so blantantly obvious. Just because not everyone lags doesn't mean it doesn't exist


Then watch some other koreans play and see how it's not blatantly obvious.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
MUFFINS1
Profile Joined March 2011
United States533 Posts
May 09 2011 02:52 GMT
#725
On May 09 2011 11:51 Vorlik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 11:50 ceciljacobs wrote:
not reflective of whose skill exactly? did you forget zenio went 0-3 in his gsl group and hasn't been a dominant player since like gsl 2? rainbow's been picked first by code A winners two seasons running. the only 'top' korean who's arguably underperforming is MC (whose lost once to a korean and once to time mismanagement)


MC also lost to ret.

Ret is basically at korean level
hi
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
May 09 2011 02:53 GMT
#726
Talking about protoss or Naniwa during a TvZ looks really really bad! Shame on you Geoff and your brotoss bias!
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
May 09 2011 02:53 GMT
#727
idra going to bust... he's not makign drones
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
May 09 2011 02:53 GMT
#728
IdrA going all-in. Painuser with tanks, this does not look well.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
May 09 2011 02:53 GMT
#729
On May 09 2011 11:49 hiawatha wrote:
You know how people say if you think they can do a better job at something then they should do it themselves? I know for a fact I can do a better job with NASL production than these people.


I got the same thing with being the Oakland Raiders GM.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
May 09 2011 02:53 GMT
#730
On May 09 2011 11:51 Mordiford wrote:
Oh my god, Geoff is that you breathing? It's SO FUCKING LOUD!

Holy shit.

Lighter breaths bro, did you just run a marathon?

Anyone else noticing that?


yeah.. I am.

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
MUFFINS1
Profile Joined March 2011
United States533 Posts
May 09 2011 02:53 GMT
#731
On May 09 2011 11:52 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 11:51 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:50 s4life wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:48 FliedLice wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:43 Uhh Negative wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:42 Chicane wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:40 Uhh Negative wrote:
Meh I'm kind of losing faith in the NASL as an international tournament. Cross-region play is just too unpredictable.


I disagree... there is always delay/lag, which is quite predictable.

The only thing is, everyone looks at it as... if a good Korean player wins, it was a good game and they out played their opponent, when they lose, it was all because of the lag, and cross region play is not good.

I am not saying there is no disadvantage with cross region latency when they lose... but at the same time it seems people look at it as a black and white situation.

Yeah but we are just seeing results that just aren't reflective of the players actual skill. Maybe SC2 is just too young and unpredictable still.

Koreans just shouldn't play in the NASL, to be honest.


Tell that to the 980123901309434 people who were raging at NASL because they dared to invite Americans and Europeans instead of the whole fucking GSL roster, lo.


Nah.. it's just the Idra fanboys releasing their rage here... just coz he said cross-server play is impossible to play.. and you know his word is like scripture.



Oh come on. Just watch some of the Koreans play, it's jjust so blantantly obvious. Just because not everyone lags doesn't mean it doesn't exist


Then watch some other koreans play and see how it's not blatantly obvious.

Although they may not be lagging the latency is higher which koreans aren't used to
hi
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
May 09 2011 02:53 GMT
#732
Idra going roach zergling all in
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
May 09 2011 02:53 GMT
#733
On May 09 2011 11:51 Vorlik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 11:50 ceciljacobs wrote:
not reflective of whose skill exactly? did you forget zenio went 0-3 in his gsl group and hasn't been a dominant player since like gsl 2? rainbow's been picked first by code A winners two seasons running. the only 'top' korean who's arguably underperforming is MC (whose lost once to a korean and once to time mismanagement)


MC also lost to ret.


MC lost to ret because he did shitty builds. No reason to play so risky when you could probably beat the guy in a straight up game.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
May 09 2011 02:53 GMT
#734
On May 09 2011 11:51 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 11:50 s4life wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:48 FliedLice wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:43 Uhh Negative wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:42 Chicane wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:40 Uhh Negative wrote:
Meh I'm kind of losing faith in the NASL as an international tournament. Cross-region play is just too unpredictable.


I disagree... there is always delay/lag, which is quite predictable.

The only thing is, everyone looks at it as... if a good Korean player wins, it was a good game and they out played their opponent, when they lose, it was all because of the lag, and cross region play is not good.

I am not saying there is no disadvantage with cross region latency when they lose... but at the same time it seems people look at it as a black and white situation.

Yeah but we are just seeing results that just aren't reflective of the players actual skill. Maybe SC2 is just too young and unpredictable still.

Koreans just shouldn't play in the NASL, to be honest.


Tell that to the 980123901309434 people who were raging at NASL because they dared to invite Americans and Europeans instead of the whole fucking GSL roster, lo.


Nah.. it's just the Idra fanboys releasing their rage here... just coz he said cross-server play is impossible to play.. and you know his word is like scripture.



Oh come on. Just watch some of the Koreans play, it's jjust so blantantly obvious. Just because not everyone lags doesn't mean it doesn't exist



Soooo... it just so happens that when Koreans lose.. it's gotta be the lag. But when supernova, hero, theSTC and MKP absolutely trash everyone in the FXOpens it's because they are just too good. If this isn't a clear example of a double standard I don't know what is.
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
May 09 2011 02:53 GMT
#735
On May 09 2011 11:52 MUFFINS1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 11:51 Vorlik wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:50 ceciljacobs wrote:
not reflective of whose skill exactly? did you forget zenio went 0-3 in his gsl group and hasn't been a dominant player since like gsl 2? rainbow's been picked first by code A winners two seasons running. the only 'top' korean who's arguably underperforming is MC (whose lost once to a korean and once to time mismanagement)


MC also lost to ret.

Ret is basically at korean level


I really wish he could perform at that level IN korea!
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
May 09 2011 02:53 GMT
#736
On May 09 2011 11:51 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 11:50 s4life wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:48 FliedLice wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:43 Uhh Negative wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:42 Chicane wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:40 Uhh Negative wrote:
Meh I'm kind of losing faith in the NASL as an international tournament. Cross-region play is just too unpredictable.


I disagree... there is always delay/lag, which is quite predictable.

The only thing is, everyone looks at it as... if a good Korean player wins, it was a good game and they out played their opponent, when they lose, it was all because of the lag, and cross region play is not good.

I am not saying there is no disadvantage with cross region latency when they lose... but at the same time it seems people look at it as a black and white situation.

Yeah but we are just seeing results that just aren't reflective of the players actual skill. Maybe SC2 is just too young and unpredictable still.

Koreans just shouldn't play in the NASL, to be honest.


Tell that to the 980123901309434 people who were raging at NASL because they dared to invite Americans and Europeans instead of the whole fucking GSL roster, lo.


Nah.. it's just the Idra fanboys releasing their rage here... just coz he said cross-server play is impossible to play.. and you know his word is like scripture.



Oh come on. Just watch some of the Koreans play, it's jjust so blantantly obvious. Just because not everyone lags doesn't mean it doesn't exist

yeah, like last night Squirtle vs Kawaiirice on Crossfire, it was so painful to watch. Those forcefields...
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 09 2011 02:53 GMT
#737
On May 09 2011 11:52 MUFFINS1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 11:51 Vorlik wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:50 ceciljacobs wrote:
not reflective of whose skill exactly? did you forget zenio went 0-3 in his gsl group and hasn't been a dominant player since like gsl 2? rainbow's been picked first by code A winners two seasons running. the only 'top' korean who's arguably underperforming is MC (whose lost once to a korean and once to time mismanagement)


MC also lost to ret.

Ret is basically at korean level


MC let a nydus worm pop in his base next to a pylon, within vision.

That game had to do with MC playing awful, lag didn't matter ;P
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Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
May 09 2011 02:54 GMT
#738
On May 09 2011 11:51 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 11:50 s4life wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:48 FliedLice wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:43 Uhh Negative wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:42 Chicane wrote:
On May 09 2011 11:40 Uhh Negative wrote:
Meh I'm kind of losing faith in the NASL as an international tournament. Cross-region play is just too unpredictable.


I disagree... there is always delay/lag, which is quite predictable.

The only thing is, everyone looks at it as... if a good Korean player wins, it was a good game and they out played their opponent, when they lose, it was all because of the lag, and cross region play is not good.

I am not saying there is no disadvantage with cross region latency when they lose... but at the same time it seems people look at it as a black and white situation.

Yeah but we are just seeing results that just aren't reflective of the players actual skill. Maybe SC2 is just too young and unpredictable still.

Koreans just shouldn't play in the NASL, to be honest.


Tell that to the 980123901309434 people who were raging at NASL because they dared to invite Americans and Europeans instead of the whole fucking GSL roster, lo.


Nah.. it's just the Idra fanboys releasing their rage here... just coz he said cross-server play is impossible to play.. and you know his word is like scripture.



Oh come on. Just watch some of the Koreans play, it's jjust so blantantly obvious. Just because not everyone lags doesn't mean it doesn't exist


Idra fan boys? are all of team liquid staff/players idra fan boys too? and thats why they wont play in eg's league because of lag issues?
Eddog
Profile Joined May 2010
United States142 Posts
May 09 2011 02:54 GMT
#739
On May 09 2011 11:52 Falcor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 11:51 Mordiford wrote:
Oh my god, Geoff is that you breathing? It's SO FUCKING LOUD!

Holy shit.

Lighter breaths bro, did you just run a marathon?

Anyone else noticing that?


i actually came to this thread to see if anyone else was noticing that lol


Yeah I hear it as well. Now that i noticed it it's cutting through everything for me.
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1681 Posts
May 09 2011 02:54 GMT
#740
Hero Queen
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
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