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heaven-
Profile Joined February 2010
United States361 Posts
May 01 2011 05:08 GMT
#801
On May 01 2011 14:07 space_yes wrote:
I'm sure MC regrets dropping a set due to his scheduling conflicts earlier in the tournament; now he 0-3.


that was not by choice.


Im really loving the new background!
The road to success is dotted with many tempting parking places.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 05:11:19
May 01 2011 05:09 GMT
#802
On May 01 2011 14:07 Scrandom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 14:03 RPR_Tempest wrote:
How come Ace is so good at Foreign tournaments (IEM, NASL) but fails so hard at GSL?


Because of the players maybe?


Ya MC and Ret were never in the GSL.

Edited for a stupid mistake.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 01 2011 05:09 GMT
#803
Ace took some big risks those games, while MC played safe and did not punish him for it.

First game: proxy 2 gate, no more need be said.

Second game: hidden nexus, not keeping up with unit production in order to get upgrades and probes

MC had the bigger army the second game but never attacked. He looked like he was expecting an attack from Ace.

He made the wrong read and never poked enough to correct himself.
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
May 01 2011 05:09 GMT
#804
Well done Ace, I wouldn't be surprised if he finished his group x-0 now. Very nice games. But still ways to go.

MC can't really hope to qualify directly now. Even if he wins all matches it just might not be enough. But oh well, I doubt that MC will compketly bum out, so he still has more than a chance.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 05:10:28
May 01 2011 05:10 GMT
#805
wooo horses

omg no they ar estripping
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
bluestuff
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada893 Posts
May 01 2011 05:10 GMT
#806
horses!!!
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
May 01 2011 05:12 GMT
#807
Ace used the fact that Mc only probed far enough with his observers to take advantage of that fact. Ace played passive-aggressively, where he poked in enough to startle Mc, and made Mc look exactly in the direction he wanted to, while distracting Mc long enough from the big picture. By the time Mc realized, he had fallen too far behind in upgrades.
I post only when my brain works.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
May 01 2011 05:12 GMT
#808
lol who is the fake huk!
GertHeart
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States631 Posts
May 01 2011 05:13 GMT
#809
blooper reel was awesome =P
He who conquers the past rules the future, He who conquers the future rules the past. - C&C Red Alert
Tamel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States166 Posts
May 01 2011 05:14 GMT
#810
was that sheth as huk :p...and horses?
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
May 01 2011 05:14 GMT
#811
On May 01 2011 14:07 Scrandom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 14:03 RPR_Tempest wrote:
How come Ace is so good at Foreign tournaments (IEM, NASL) but fails so hard at GSL?


Because of the players maybe?


The most likely explanation is because the game is too volatile as of now.. any top player can have a winning/losing streak nowadays.. i.e., winning a GSL or two means a little bit more than a few more percentage points in your chances against other top players. I really have no idea why people overreact when a player loses or wins.. when ret or heypro lost their last three or four games in a row, they are calling for their retirement... lol, it's not like these guys are fighting physically you know..
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 01 2011 05:15 GMT
#812
On May 01 2011 14:07 garlicface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 14:05 dtz wrote:
ACE is on the road to dominate the foreign scene. First Europe, then Australia, Soon America.

Fear not! IdrA will take a home stand!

Ace beat Idra 2-0 in IEM if I'm not mistaken
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
May 01 2011 05:16 GMT
#813
On May 01 2011 14:09 Azarkon wrote:
Ace took some big risks those games, while MC played safe and did not punish him for it.

First game: proxy 2 gate, no more need be said.

Second game: hidden nexus, not keeping up with unit production in order to get upgrades and probes

MC had the bigger army the second game but never attacked. He looked like he was expecting an attack from Ace.

He made the wrong read and never poked enough to correct himself.

Risks aren't the same in PvP as they are in other matches, they are a lot less straight forwards. You can take HUGE risks and be confident that the other player won't punish you for them. Risks are played through mind games and what the other player expects. You can't have observers running around the map, in PvP that 75 gas is a BIG deal, far away expansions when the enemy has Blink Stalkers are hard to punish
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 01 2011 05:17 GMT
#814
I thought MC played well regardless of losing. That first build from Ace was really refined and you could tell he knew what to do even if it didn't win him the game outright. Also saw him use the same build in ST inhouse and came out with the win even though it was scouted.

Second game MC micro'd and tech'd well, but not knowing about the expo from Ace really cost him the game. If he had attacked while he was still on 1 base and they were tied on upgrades no doubt he'd have won.
Mios
Profile Joined April 2010
United States686 Posts
May 01 2011 05:17 GMT
#815
In his GSL code A matches he has honestly lost to some really good up and comers.
Violet for example was a beast in wc3 and he's in the up and downs.
no LAN and intercontinental bnet = T_T
aScle
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia375 Posts
May 01 2011 05:20 GMT
#816
On May 01 2011 14:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 14:07 garlicface wrote:
On May 01 2011 14:05 dtz wrote:
ACE is on the road to dominate the foreign scene. First Europe, then Australia, Soon America.

Fear not! IdrA will take a home stand!

Ace beat Idra 2-0 in IEM if I'm not mistaken

That was squirtle
Artosis: "Why did the collosus fall over? BECAUSE IT WAS IMBALANCED!!!"
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
May 01 2011 05:20 GMT
#817
Sigh. It makes me sad that people take huge risks against MC while he tries to play safe and standard, and it makes haters say that MC is overrated. Oh well, well-played by Ace.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
May 01 2011 05:21 GMT
#818
On May 01 2011 14:07 Scrandom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 14:03 RPR_Tempest wrote:
How come Ace is so good at Foreign tournaments (IEM, NASL) but fails so hard at GSL?


Because of the players maybe?

I remember reading things from either other ST members or a ACE interview but he/they say that he gets very nervous on TV
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
May 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#819
On May 01 2011 14:20 aScle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 14:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On May 01 2011 14:07 garlicface wrote:
On May 01 2011 14:05 dtz wrote:
ACE is on the road to dominate the foreign scene. First Europe, then Australia, Soon America.

Fear not! IdrA will take a home stand!

Ace beat Idra 2-0 in IEM if I'm not mistaken

That was squirtle


No he's right. Ace beat Idra 2-0 in the group stages of IEM. Squirtle of course beat Idra 3-2 in the quarterfinals.
faculty.aCe.
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany107 Posts
May 01 2011 05:25 GMT
#820
On May 01 2011 14:20 Heavenly wrote:
Sigh. It makes me sad that people take huge risks against MC while he tries to play safe and standard, and it makes haters say that MC is overrated. Oh well, well-played by Ace.

That's the way it always works.
A better player thinks "I'm much better than this guy, so I'll play safe" while the worse player says "hey i can't beat this guy straight up, I have to try to get some early advantage". In a game, that undeveloped like starcraft 2, it happens frequently that the worse guy beats the better guy, as for some builds, you just don't have safe counters, so you gonna lose if you recognize it too late. In BW nowadays it's far less possible to lose against a very weak player, as you have safe builds
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