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On April 20 2011 18:54 Mise wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2011 18:52 fuzzz wrote: even if he would have used the 14 supply for roaches he would have been rolled... Actually 14 roaches would have destroyed that army. Not that he had enough resources to make that many.
14 supply would be 7 roaches.
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So Creator is younger than Maru?
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Don Juan?? More like Dong Won (Kim..aka "Ryung")
Ryung fighting!!
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On April 20 2011 18:55 Jacuzzi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2011 18:53 frucisky wrote: Nexus cancel into push I think. G1 was lost due to forcefields and an early pool that did 0 damage. Oh well, that's Zerg The Nexus wasn't cancelled at all. Leenock was insanely greedy and Creator was only pushing to force units (or in this case fucking kill Leenock because he over droned).
Oh sorry, wasn't too sure.
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I hate to say it guys but Leenock is so overrated. Kid is young and has a ton of potential, but is still a coin flip to play a decent game. Getting knocked out will hopefully make him go back and re assess his game play and come back stronger and worthy of the spot.
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On April 20 2011 18:53 bbQ4Aiur wrote: possible solution atm is burrow movement?
Burrow movement @8 minutes ^^ Leenock lost that because he went greedy, not because of forcefields. Talking about balance in a LR thread is a no-no anyways.
We have TvZ now! <3 Best MU in the game at the moment in my opinion. Most fun to watch/play.
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On April 20 2011 18:48 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2011 18:43 Romance_us wrote:On April 20 2011 18:42 The KY wrote:On April 20 2011 18:41 Romance_us wrote:On April 20 2011 18:41 kirbynator wrote:On April 20 2011 18:40 Romance_us wrote: WHat just happened..... creator GGs? were you watching the game? I watched Creator throw the game away. So.. yes. You lose the game when all your buildings die dude ;p Are you trying to argue that Creator wasn't in a completely dominant position when he decided to go for the base trade? Like... WHAT? Not saying it was totally the correct decision but Creator was only in a dominant position in terms of direct army confrontation, which Leenock was totally unwilling to commit to. Leenock was just going to harrass for all eternity and force Creator to stay in his base, and if Leenock controls mutas correctly he never needs to take on the stalker ball. If Creator attacks his base, go for base trade. Creator realised that he wasn't going to get the chance to kill Leenocks army so went for the base trade himself.
No, Creator was dominant in terms of economy after having just crushed Leenock's third base. Direct army confrontation is irrelevant in that situation... on two bases you do not have enough gas to create a critical mass of mutalisks fast enough for them to matter. Let's be realistic, he had like ten dude. Creator meanwhile had about 30+ stalkers. All Creator had to do was build momentum. With an economic advantage as strong as that you can split enough stalkers and build enough cannons to thwart any form of counter-attack while still preventing the zerg's third from going up, or at least mitigating the third's extra eco by making your own third (quite easily in that situation) and steam rolling him in the near future with your massive supply advantage. It was just a really, really rash decision.
edit: I'll let you get the last word on this one if you want and we can agree to disagree though! I don't think you are entirely incorrect, but I strongly feel as though Creator made the least rational decision in that position
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On April 20 2011 18:55 RPR_Tempest wrote: So Creator is younger than Maru? Maru doesn't live in the teamhouse afaik
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What is that tv show they mentioned, where marineking and july zerg had come to the gom house?
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Ryung looks like such a badass. He should have his own TV show where he shoots bad guys and saves the world from nuclear war.
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On April 20 2011 18:56 4mgg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2011 18:53 bbQ4Aiur wrote: possible solution atm is burrow movement? Burrow movement @8 minutes ^^ Leenock lost that because he went greedy, not because of forcefields. Talking about balance in a LR thread is a no-no anyways.
No one is talking about balance, we are talking about builds from last GSL.
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GOM chat is filled with freaking haters that cry Protoss OP and Moletrap suck.
I feel so pissed off after joining that chat stream for couple minutes.
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On April 20 2011 18:55 Highwinds wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2011 18:54 Mise wrote:On April 20 2011 18:52 fuzzz wrote: even if he would have used the 14 supply for roaches he would have been rolled... Actually 14 roaches would have destroyed that army. Not that he had enough resources to make that many. 14 supply would be 7 roaches.
I think the dude talking about supply meant larva. Because, really, the actual thing that matters is larva, not supply.
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On April 20 2011 18:55 Highwinds wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2011 18:54 Mise wrote:On April 20 2011 18:52 fuzzz wrote: even if he would have used the 14 supply for roaches he would have been rolled... Actually 14 roaches would have destroyed that army. Not that he had enough resources to make that many. 14 supply would be 7 roaches. It's not about supply, it's about 14 larva. And that's pretty much 14 roaches (if he had that much money).
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On April 20 2011 18:55 frucisky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2011 18:54 Mise wrote:On April 20 2011 18:52 fuzzz wrote: even if he would have used the 14 supply for roaches he would have been rolled... Actually 14 roaches would have destroyed that army. Not that he had enough resources to make that many. 7 roaches your mean. Trouble is even if he did make the 7 roaches, he can get perma-FFed. He had to react really fast and had more spines. He had 14 Larvae, so he could have made 28 supply of roaches. But I think he was on +100 gas so lets say he could have made 18 lings 5 roaches...
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Revival could surprise some people today imo.
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On April 20 2011 18:56 Tosho wrote: I hate to say it guys but Leenock is so overrated. Kid is young and has a ton of potential, but is still a coin flip to play a decent game. Getting knocked out will hopefully make him go back and re assess his game play and come back stronger and worthy of the spot. Overrated? You obviously haven't seen his previous GSL games. He's played some Top level series, this is definitely an upset. I really hope he makes it through the next qualifiers.
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He doesnt need burrow movement... all he needed was burrow.
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Doa's rocking it up with all those references..
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