• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:34
CET 15:34
KST 23:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)25Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 [Short Story] The Last GSL
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
Which foreign pros are considered the best? [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Fantasy's Q&A video
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1752 users

[TSL] Ro16 Day 4 - Page 219

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 217 218 219 220 221 288 Next
Its time to enjoy the matches, keep the whining out of this thread. GL HF!
Also, don't reply to the whining and ignore it: have faith in the mods, we read every post and act swiftly. You're making it worse. Enjoy!
ppont
Profile Joined July 2010
66 Posts
April 17 2011 20:36 GMT
#4361
Take him down Mondragon!
+ Show Spoiler +
I take guilty terran pleasure in the fact that all the whine will be directed at protoss for a while.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 20:38:19
April 17 2011 20:36 GMT
#4362
On April 18 2011 05:35 Agnosthar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:32 CScythe wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:31 artanis2 wrote:
The point of starcraft is play to win. If you're not playing to win, you're not playing right.

Some people play to show awesome games.


Everyone plays to win, don't be so naive.

I think you've never heard of our Emperor.
The legend of Darien lives on
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
April 17 2011 20:36 GMT
#4363
On April 18 2011 05:32 twndomn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:29 Genie1 wrote:
The easiest fix to removing cannon rushing is very simple. Move the cannon requirement to Cybercore instead or make the forge require the Gateway before it can be built.


That's a ridiculous comment. Forge -> Cannon has been there since the days of SC 1, which means it's there for the past 12 years and counting.

For something that withstood the test of time, it's your fault for not able to scout and counter it correctly.


Yeah so has rax before depot. They changed that. I'm not qq'ing, just saying. Even if Mon cancelled hatch it would have been super uphill, on Tal Darim where Protoss can pretty much take 6 gas geysers for free. And then get voids. Making voids is usefull skill toi have, no?

Anyway Mondragon fighting! Even if he does get knocked out, much love for his play here <333!
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
PourLaGloire
Profile Joined February 2011
United States376 Posts
April 17 2011 20:36 GMT
#4364
On April 18 2011 05:33 Aus.Force wrote:
That game was as bad as Kuyt's dive today

Yeah, that was atrocious.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
April 17 2011 20:36 GMT
#4365
LQ stream lagging like hell for anyone else?
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4366
Well really, if the roles were reversed and it was Mondie doing the cannon rushing we wouldn't all be unhappy about it
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4367
On April 18 2011 05:33 sutureself wrote:
People are SO SO angry. My goodness. Misdirected rage ftw.

If I could cannon rush to get closer to $15,000, I would. No question. And so would you. Why all this hate toward Cruncher? If anything, hate on the game.


No ! I would do a crazy mass infestor over one base to please the fans ! Then I would say my opponent played well.

/sarcasm
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
m4d3r
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1 Post
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4368
On April 18 2011 05:11 cptKewk wrote:
so I wasn't fast enough with the shooping but my friend noticed this
[image loading]

bump

User was warned for this post
aw yeah
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4369

On April 18 2011 05:32 SwordfishConspiracy wrote:
So it's okay for MC or San to cannon rush in the GSL but it's not okay for CrunCher to cannon rush in the TSL? How is that fair?


Canon rushes are lame. Who make them don't matter. :/
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4370
On April 18 2011 05:32 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:27 koonst wrote:
i love cruncher soo much!


This hahaha

Went from indifferent before today, to hate after second game but after this how can anyone not love the guy?

You have to laugh after something that ridiculous or your gonna die from stress.

No i dislike him even more, and I am Protoss, I nearly always cheer for Protoss and actually liked him after his win in TL Open when most people were shitting on him. His style is soooooo boring and does not have any interesting feature. His micro is not outstanding, his strategies are not interesting(they are solid and strong), I see no reason to cheer for him I just hope if he wins today Naniwa will humiliate him totally, hopefully with wins under 5 minutes.
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4371
On April 18 2011 05:34 sixfour wrote:
funny thing is that if mondragon 6 pooled and won this game, everyone qqing would be calling mondy a genius

And your evidence is?

Besides, it takes more skill to 6pool and win than to cannon rush and win. Early pool is weak shit in SC2.
imbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom320 Posts
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4372
On April 18 2011 05:35 Essentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:34 Darkbane wrote:
If Cruncher wins, I will simply not be able to wait until naniwa CRUSHES him.


pretty ironic many of you guys are saying u hope naniwa crushes cruncher, do u not watch nani games? Nani cheeses a bunch also.

cept naniwa is actually a good player, so it's not nearly as annoying when he wins with this kind of thing. he doesn't *only* abuse stuff.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4373
On April 18 2011 05:36 ppont wrote:
Take him down Mondragon!
+ Show Spoiler +
I take guilty terran pleasure in the fact that all the whine will be directed at protoss for a while.


Hahaha nice.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4374
All we need now is a 4-gate and the internet will explode.

C'mon Mondragon, you got this.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Kazang
Profile Joined August 2010
578 Posts
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4375
On April 18 2011 05:32 Ko1tz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:30 LesPhoques wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:29 Ko1tz wrote:
Cruncher looks like a player that would do absolutely anything to win. That was disgusting to watch, but if you wanna win you gotta do this kind of crap

Uruguay vs Ghana on the WC comes to mind with this "gotta do anything to win" mentality.


May be France vs. Ireland? Henry's handball?


Oh man that handball :/ as disgusting as it was aswell, it was done for the same reason > to win.

I really wanted Ireland to win that game BTW.


Cheating to win is very different to playing in a "cheesy" way.

Using your hands in football is a foul, building cannons in your opponents base in Starcraft is a part of the game.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4376
5:00

[image loading] (Z)MYM.Mondragon gets four lings and kills the pylon, then plants down his natural hatch.

(P)coL.CrunCher goes for Stargate.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15732 Posts
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4377
On April 18 2011 05:34 MorroW wrote:
cannon rush isnt cheese vs hatchery first. its just autowin, cheese indicates luck factors and/or relying on ur opponent playing badly

i just love crucher for showing why i never hatch first vs toss, doesnt matter how big the map is if toss warp in buildings


Are you guys listening? Morrow says it isn't imbalanced. Stop littering this thread with your balance whine.
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4378
Cruncher. Stargate. Nuff said.
loft
Profile Joined July 2009
United States344 Posts
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4379
Wow, mond can't even stop a cannon rush?

Worst decision making by zerg. Why does everyone hate on cruncher.

All the players crying should be directed to idra fanclub page lol.

Kiwikaki punishes expo builds with cannons a lot too. Don't see the haters there.
Saw Boxer do a proxy rax rush, but he is revolutionary, right.
mitthrawn
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany443 Posts
April 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#4380
On April 18 2011 05:36 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:33 PaPhJoRt wrote:
I really dont understand the hate of cannon push. Its a part of the game, if all games were big macro games it would be boring its nice with diversity


It doesn't help much. Mondragon is just awesome to watch, and when he gets raped by something silly, people get sad.. "sadness leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering and suffering leads to BM on TL" - Yoda.

You just won the thread, sir!
/o\
Prev 1 217 218 219 220 221 288 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
14:00
#71
WardiTV3895
Rex113
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 154
ProTech129
Rex 113
gerald23 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3851
Jaedong 1523
Flash 1448
Larva 862
BeSt 679
Mini 640
Hyuk 616
Light 516
Soma 428
ggaemo 408
[ Show more ]
Stork 353
ZerO 312
firebathero 271
Snow 250
Soulkey 236
actioN 201
Barracks 192
Rush 110
Zeus 96
Sharp 95
Mind 88
Shuttle 75
Pusan 72
JYJ 70
PianO 62
Sea.KH 61
JulyZerg 55
[sc1f]eonzerg 52
Mong 41
yabsab 35
Free 34
Shinee 33
sorry 30
Terrorterran 21
ToSsGirL 21
scan(afreeca) 20
soO 19
Bale 16
HiyA 16
ivOry 15
GoRush 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
Rock 8
Dota 2
Gorgc5923
singsing2709
qojqva1594
Dendi630
420jenkins451
Fuzer 247
Counter-Strike
kennyS1621
olofmeister1258
byalli819
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King77
Other Games
B2W.Neo1131
hiko710
Pyrionflax271
crisheroes248
Happy210
Hui .202
ToD162
ZerO(Twitch)24
Chillindude13
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 868
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 10
lovetv 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV347
• lizZardDota264
League of Legends
• TFBlade2059
• Jankos791
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
2h 26m
OSC
9h 26m
Replay Cast
18h 26m
RongYI Cup
20h 26m
Clem vs TriGGeR
Maru vs Creator
WardiTV Invitational
23h 26m
Replay Cast
1d 18h
RongYI Cup
1d 20h
herO vs Solar
WardiTV Invitational
1d 23h
The PondCast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.