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Its time to enjoy the matches, keep the whining out of this thread. GL HF!
Also, don't reply to the whining and ignore it: have faith in the mods, we read every post and act swiftly. You're making it worse. Enjoy!
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4301
If Cruncher wins, I will simply not be able to wait until naniwa CRUSHES him.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4302
On April 18 2011 05:31 lockedCAPS wrote:
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On April 18 2011 05:30 LesPhoques wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:29 Ko1tz wrote:
Cruncher looks like a player that would do absolutely anything to win. That was disgusting to watch, but if you wanna win you gotta do this kind of crap

Uruguay vs Ghana on the WC comes to mind with this "gotta do anything to win" mentality.


May be France vs. Ireland? Henry's handball?


Suarez's was much worse lol

edit: but i would have done it too!

Henry cheated and so did Ireland in an earlier part of the competition.

Cruncher didn't cheat thats disrespecting the player. An equivalent might be Inter winning the CL with defensive football but thats also a stretch.
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4303
On April 18 2011 05:18 IdrA wrote:
harass constantly!
keep protoss off balance!
overmake corruptors!

lol


Right.
Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4304
On April 18 2011 05:34 MorroW wrote:
cannon rush isnt cheese vs hatchery first. its just autowin, cheese indicates luck factors and/or relying on ur opponent playing badly


Writer@joonjoewong
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 20:35:39
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4305
On April 18 2011 05:32 CScythe wrote:
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On April 18 2011 05:31 artanis2 wrote:
The point of starcraft is play to win. If you're not playing to win, you're not playing right.

Some people play to show awesome games.


Those are the people that will be gone at some point. Top players are the players that do everything they can to win. Risky, hard-countering can be very rewarding as cruncher just showed. Mondragon took a risk and got destroyed because of it, if you want to blame someone, blame mondragon for not being adequately prepared.

(Im not saying cruncher is any good, I'm saying that you have to play the tactics that work for you, whatever they are.)
s031720
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden383 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4306
On April 18 2011 05:32 ghrur wrote:
What ARE you supposed to do in that situation? Take a third? Counter? Just go 1 base? (>_>...)
I mean, mondy scouted it, pulled drones, and tried to kill it, and it STILL did nothing.


Cancel natural and either 1 base roach or take your 2nd at your"third".

Spread your creep and build spines in main.
Just another noob
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45239 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 20:35:26
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4307
On April 18 2011 05:33 Froadac wrote:
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On April 18 2011 05:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
While most people were rooting for Mondragon, the people who are actually blaming "Protoss imba" or "Cruncher being bm/ unsportsmanlike" on that last game, rather than Mondragon not reacting properly to a frickin cannon rush are truly showing that they're nothing but biased fans and can't be objective about these matches.

Naw. It's just really annoying Cruncher did that ;;

Cruncher is playing well, he's just always so abusive, (good thing, but so painful to watch)


Mondragon was abusive for expanding like that. How is a cannon rush abusive? -.-' Did he know that this was the game where Mondragon was going to throw away all his drones?

Don't get me wrong, I'm still rooting for Mondragon. The hate for Cruncher though- because he played strategically and Mondragon played terribly- is ridiculous.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4308
funny thing is that if mondragon 6 pooled and won this game, everyone qqing would be calling mondy a genius
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4309
Winner of this match plays the winner of Goody v. Naniwa, right?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4310
Come on Mondi! You can do it!
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4311
Go mondy, pleeeeeaaaaaseeeeeeee win. Please. Please? ^_^
Binky1842
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States2599 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4312
game 4. shake it off, dissy. you got this!!
"The zoo could not confirm that Binky was the attacker, but only Binky had blood on his face following the incident"
entropius
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1046 Posts
April 17 2011 20:35 GMT
#4313
On April 18 2011 05:34 koolaid1990 wrote:
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On April 18 2011 05:32 SwordfishConspiracy wrote:
So it's okay for MC or San to cannon rush in the GSL but it's not okay for CrunCher to cannon rush in the TSL? How is that fair?

They cannon rush in PVP. Everyone knows PVP is shit, this is PVZ.


Everyone knows PvZ is shit too.
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
April 17 2011 20:35 GMT
#4314
On April 18 2011 05:30 Axeinst wrote:
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On April 18 2011 05:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:28 Axeinst wrote:
How do you guys know if those are replays? i know Husky mentioned replay but it is totally possible that he loaded the replay immediately after the game ended and checked that.

So there is no evidence that those are casted replays, until you can show me real evidence like sitation of interview where TSL staff says those are casted from replays.


They have always been casted from replays, this is common knowledge...

"common knowloedge" doesnt stand for fact, it might aswell be a common myth.

I am still waiting for evidence.

Im prt sure day9 mentioned replays somewhere
VEReHrT
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada121 Posts
April 17 2011 20:35 GMT
#4315
On April 18 2011 05:33 00Visor wrote:
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On April 18 2011 05:32 [Silverflame] wrote:
This is no joke... I would love to see the crowd going wild at live events like in the forums. We would easily be on Super Bowl level with this passion xD


more like a Box fight throwing chairs


More like English football riot.
As long as we keep our passion as progamers, we will always have an opportunity to meet again. On a purely personal note, I'd like to show him the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. SlayerS_BoxeR
PourLaGloire
Profile Joined February 2011
United States376 Posts
April 17 2011 20:35 GMT
#4316
On April 18 2011 05:32 ComTrav wrote:
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On April 18 2011 05:29 jalstar wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:28 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:27 PourLaGloire wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:26 Stereotype wrote:
what a pathetic.... UGH where's the sportsmanship, cruncher?

It's a tournament. Not kindergarten.


I always asked myself why americans use german words like "kindergarten" ^_^


fun fact of the day: a plurality of Americans are of German descent.


Well, and kindergarten was invented by a German. English has lots of loan words. (A few other German loan words: schadefreude, ersatz, realpolitik.)

I style myself a true nerd's nerd.

I'm glad that there are intelligent people in this thread. Gives me a bit of hope for the future of these things...
instantdry
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada308 Posts
April 17 2011 20:35 GMT
#4317
cannon rush again eh?
SpiralCompass
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom147 Posts
April 17 2011 20:35 GMT
#4318
lol CrunCher maphacks
SwordfishConspiracy
Profile Joined December 2010
United States146 Posts
April 17 2011 20:35 GMT
#4319
On April 18 2011 05:32 Sernyl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:32 SwordfishConspiracy wrote:
So it's okay for MC or San to cannon rush in the GSL but it's not okay for CrunCher to cannon rush in the TSL? How is that fair?



Nobody says its unfair.It's standard protoss play.


I'm talking about all the people whining about CrunCher cheesing b/c he's not as good as Mondragon. Thy warship MC and San when they cannon rush but call CrunCher ban-worthy names when he does the same thing.
SwordfishConspiracy
Aeyce
Profile Joined May 2010
United States45 Posts
April 17 2011 20:35 GMT
#4320
On April 18 2011 05:34 Clog wrote:
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On April 18 2011 05:33 Darksoldierr wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:32 entropius wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:30 Darksoldierr wrote:
For the sake of the human race, dont whine. He could have cancel his hatch after all the initial buildings was warped in. 3 pylon and 1 cannon is already 450 mineral. Think a bit before you start crying out loud about balance, protoss or the players. It was mondragons game to lose without resistance. Pulling all drone, letting hatch finishing is just, totally terrible reaction


Even if he cancels his hatch, then protoss cancels the blockade cannons, is down a few hundred minerals in the exchange, and even more importantly has zerg stuck on one base.

And one base zerg is just fail.


And what would have stopped mondragon to take base on another location


Not sure if you were watching the game, but there were some cannons involved. Drones get killed by cannons when they run by them.


Mondragon had 3-4 drones at his natural. How else would he build 2 spinecrawlers?
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