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Its time to enjoy the matches, keep the whining out of this thread. GL HF!
Also, don't reply to the whining and ignore it: have faith in the mods, we read every post and act swiftly. You're making it worse. Enjoy!
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4281
On April 18 2011 05:33 Darksoldierr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:32 entropius wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:30 Darksoldierr wrote:
For the sake of the human race, dont whine. He could have cancel his hatch after all the initial buildings was warped in. 3 pylon and 1 cannon is already 450 mineral. Think a bit before you start crying out loud about balance, protoss or the players. It was mondragons game to lose without resistance. Pulling all drone, letting hatch finishing is just, totally terrible reaction


Even if he cancels his hatch, then protoss cancels the blockade cannons, is down a few hundred minerals in the exchange, and even more importantly has zerg stuck on one base.

And one base zerg is just fail.


And what would have stopped mondragon to take base on another location


Not sure if you were watching the game, but there were some cannons involved. Drones get killed by cannons when they run by them.
NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4282
You wan't some cheese with that whine people?

Come on now, serious overreaction from Mondi by pulling them drones. CrunCher gettin' it done!
Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butt-head
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4283
On April 18 2011 05:33 Axeinst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:32 jedrus07 wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:30 Axeinst wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:28 Axeinst wrote:
How do you guys know if those are replays? i know Husky mentioned replay but it is totally possible that he loaded the replay immediately after the game ended and checked that.

So there is no evidence that those are casted replays, until you can show me real evidence like sitation of interview where TSL staff says those are casted from replays.


They have always been casted from replays, this is common knowledge...

"common knowloedge" doesnt stand for fact, it might aswell be a common myth.

I am still waiting for evidence.


They said it on numerous times. That is why they are so paranoid about spoilers. They cast live from replays.

And can you provide me with a url where can i read their announcement about this subject?


Go read the TSL faq.
Moderator
Leach
Profile Joined December 2010
United States536 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4284
On April 18 2011 05:32 Zarahtra wrote:
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On April 18 2011 05:29 Pekkz wrote:
Man, cruncher really aint making any new fans by playing like this. Fucking most cheesy player in sc2. 3 base voidray colossus and cannon rushes .......

I find this POV always so hilarious. I hate cheese, I never allin, but if I cannot defend cheese/allin, I don't deserve the win. I mean I don't love that cannon rush at all, but he saw an opportunity and took it, that I can understand. If something works, use it. If there's something wrong with it, let Blizzard deal with it.


he didnt see the opportunity, he was just aware that he'd never be able to defeat a way superior mondragon on such a macro-heavy map. Mondragon would've just easily outmacroed him like he did in game 1.....
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4285
Oh wow I just realized, Mondragon probably hasn't been cannon rushed all that much because he most likely doesn't ladder all that much, preferring custom games. Such an awesome mental move.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 20:34:50
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4286
cannon rush isnt cheese vs hatchery first. its just autowin, cheese indicates luck factors and/or relying on ur opponent playing badly

i just love crucher for showing why i never hatch first vs toss, doesnt matter how big the map is if toss warp in buildings
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4287
Are you guys serious? It would have been so sad if Mondi won with that crisis management...
"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4288
On April 18 2011 05:30 Axeinst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On April 18 2011 05:28 Axeinst wrote:
How do you guys know if those are replays? i know Husky mentioned replay but it is totally possible that he loaded the replay immediately after the game ended and checked that.

So there is no evidence that those are casted replays, until you can show me real evidence like sitation of interview where TSL staff says those are casted from replays.


They have always been casted from replays, this is common knowledge...

"common knowloedge" doesnt stand for fact, it might aswell be a common myth.

I am still waiting for evidence.

From the TSL3 FAQ:

Why are games cast from replays? Are the casts still live?

Games are cast from replays to provide for the best possible playing environment for players, aiming to minimize lag and maintain a level of fair play. We feel that live streams, even with a slight delay, open a window that could compromise the integrity of the game. Even the slightest risk is one we do not want to take with so much at stake. The casts are still done live, and every precaution is taken to keep the results from casters and fans.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4289
Match 4: TSL`Metalopolis (Crossmap Spawns Only)

[image loading] (Z)MYM.Mondragon 1 - 2 (P)coL.CrunCher

[image loading] (Z)MYM.Mondragon spawns as the red Zerg @ 2
(P)coL.CrunCher spawns as the blue Protoss @ 1

It's close by air.
Stereotype
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States136 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4290
On April 18 2011 05:27 PourLaGloire wrote:
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On April 18 2011 05:26 Stereotype wrote:
what a pathetic.... UGH where's the sportsmanship, cruncher?

It's a tournament. Not kindergarten.

You don't think someone in, say, the UFC would get booed for using similarly cheap tactics? If we're going to cheer for starcraft to be a sport (even if an e-sport), there should be sportsmanship.

Classless, tactless play.
Imagine there's no heaven. It's easy if you try. -- John Lennon
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4291
On April 18 2011 05:32 SwordfishConspiracy wrote:
So it's okay for MC or San to cannon rush in the GSL but it's not okay for CrunCher to cannon rush in the TSL? How is that fair?

They cannon rush in PVP. Everyone knows PVP is shit, this is PVZ.
Everhate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States640 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4292
On April 18 2011 05:32 SwordfishConspiracy wrote:
So it's okay for MC or San to cannon rush in the GSL but it's not okay for CrunCher to cannon rush in the TSL? How is that fair?


I'd be interested to see what the response would have been if mondragon had 6-pooled instead of the cannon rush by cruncher. Cannon rush is cheesy as hell, but we've seen cheeses in countless games in the past. Worth throwing into a series, even if it results in the hate.
darksage78
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada243 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4293
C'mon tie it up Mondragon!
@KakitDesign on Twitter | Graphic Artist for : z33k.com / Collegiate Starleague / FXOpen
Yenticha
Profile Joined July 2010
257 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4294
That last game was ugly, but Mondragon did react like a bronze league player... sad, sad, sad...
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4295
I don't like Cruncher. Though i would like to have 3 Crunchers, it would hopefully make Blizz to balance the game.
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 20:34:39
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4296
Incoming 4gate to be the cherry ontop of the cheese cake
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
FourTone
Profile Joined October 2010
29 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4297
Please early pool him.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4298
I hope mondragon has an abusive bullshit build
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4299
And what would have stopped mondragon to take base on another location


can just 4 gate the next expo and the cannons stop reinforcing from the main.
qbs
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland771 Posts
April 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#4300
GO Mondiii !!!! 4 the swarm : D
DeMusliM !!!
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