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najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
April 14 2011 20:23 GMT
#3861
Props to incontrol, taking out one of the better Korean terrans,
way to prove his mlg performance wasn't a fluke.

Looking forward to more nasl tomorrow
I have no quote!
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 20:27:59
April 14 2011 20:26 GMT
#3862
On April 15 2011 05:19 SKaREO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 05:12 SonuvBob wrote:
On April 15 2011 04:34 SKaREO wrote:
This was a really weak tournament. North America could do a LOT better than this.

I didn't know it was over already.

I guess that was harsh. I just feel that this stream was very low quality compared to the average user stream, the tournament doesn't have that "GSL" feel to it if you know what I mean. Sure, they're new to this, but c'mon, you gotta make it a lot of fun for the viewers or they are going to get an unfavourable first impression.


Why don't you give some valid specific criticism instead of your last two responses ? What can they do better ? Do you have a solution, or an idea ? Is there something bothering you, and what can they do to improve your experience ?
Dead girls don't say no.
Zharak
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden106 Posts
April 14 2011 20:32 GMT
#3863
Yesterday I couldn't even see what was happening due to bad (REALLY bad) quality and insane lags, but today the quality was improved and there was only minor lag left! Well done NASL, if the quality of the stream tomorrow is as good as todays, I´ll treat myself to a HD-pass
As a Necrophiliac, I was mostly interested in her future
WizShaw
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada107 Posts
April 14 2011 20:36 GMT
#3864
I just plunked down 25 big ones...

Is there only one game available from each 3 game series? Or am I missing something?
Never Rub Another mans Rhubarb
tooPrime
Profile Joined March 2011
United States245 Posts
April 14 2011 20:37 GMT
#3865
On April 15 2011 05:36 WizShaw wrote:
I just plunked down 25 big ones...

Is there only one game available from each 3 game series? Or am I missing something?

At the moment they are just one big video of all 2 to 3 matches.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 20:39:22
April 14 2011 20:38 GMT
#3866
On April 15 2011 05:26 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 05:19 SKaREO wrote:
On April 15 2011 05:12 SonuvBob wrote:
On April 15 2011 04:34 SKaREO wrote:
This was a really weak tournament. North America could do a LOT better than this.

I didn't know it was over already.

I guess that was harsh. I just feel that this stream was very low quality compared to the average user stream, the tournament doesn't have that "GSL" feel to it if you know what I mean. Sure, they're new to this, but c'mon, you gotta make it a lot of fun for the viewers or they are going to get an unfavourable first impression.


Why don't you give some valid specific criticism instead of your last two responses ? What can they do better ? Do you have a solution, or an idea ? Is there something bothering you, and what can they do to improve your experience ?


I think when he says that NASL doesn't have the "GSL" feel, he's talking about how it doesn't have a performance atmosphere. There's no live audience, no musical performances (Secret-Shy Boy, etc), there's no twitter effect (tweeting it live as the games are happening). There's something special when a caster can say "We're live at the GSL!" "We're live in Stockholm with Dreamhack!" "Live at MLG Dallas!" etc.

So, I guess it's more of a fundamental issue that NASL can't fix. NASL is an online tournament, so it can't really have a GSL feel if it's not live and offline.
Don't mind me
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
April 14 2011 20:47 GMT
#3867
On April 15 2011 05:26 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 05:19 SKaREO wrote:
On April 15 2011 05:12 SonuvBob wrote:
On April 15 2011 04:34 SKaREO wrote:
This was a really weak tournament. North America could do a LOT better than this.

I didn't know it was over already.

I guess that was harsh. I just feel that this stream was very low quality compared to the average user stream, the tournament doesn't have that "GSL" feel to it if you know what I mean. Sure, they're new to this, but c'mon, you gotta make it a lot of fun for the viewers or they are going to get an unfavourable first impression.


Why don't you give some valid specific criticism instead of your last two responses ? What can they do better ? Do you have a solution, or an idea ? Is there something bothering you, and what can they do to improve your experience ?


I honestly don't think their current team is capable of putting out a quality production. It's just so awful. My suggestion would be to hire more competent staff, refund the $25 they essentially tricked so many people into buying, send out a public apology for how atrocious the production has been so far, and then try it again next season.

And if you want specific constructive criticism there's a thread for that already with about 20+ bullet points outlining what most viewers have been complaining about.
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
April 14 2011 20:54 GMT
#3868
On April 15 2011 05:38 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 05:26 Sqq wrote:
On April 15 2011 05:19 SKaREO wrote:
On April 15 2011 05:12 SonuvBob wrote:
On April 15 2011 04:34 SKaREO wrote:
This was a really weak tournament. North America could do a LOT better than this.

I didn't know it was over already.

I guess that was harsh. I just feel that this stream was very low quality compared to the average user stream, the tournament doesn't have that "GSL" feel to it if you know what I mean. Sure, they're new to this, but c'mon, you gotta make it a lot of fun for the viewers or they are going to get an unfavourable first impression.


Why don't you give some valid specific criticism instead of your last two responses ? What can they do better ? Do you have a solution, or an idea ? Is there something bothering you, and what can they do to improve your experience ?


I think when he says that NASL doesn't have the "GSL" feel, he's talking about how it doesn't have a performance atmosphere. There's no live audience, no musical performances (Secret-Shy Boy, etc), there's no twitter effect (tweeting it live as the games are happening). There's something special when a caster can say "We're live at the GSL!" "We're live in Stockholm with Dreamhack!" "Live at MLG Dallas!" etc.

So, I guess it's more of a fundamental issue that NASL can't fix. NASL is an online tournament, so it can't really have a GSL feel if it's not live and offline.

Honestly as long as we get to see some good games I don't care about the atmosphere. All I know is that the stream didn't lag for me, and thats more than I can say for the gsl stream on some days.

I think nasl is shaping up to become a great tournament, I mean you can't forget it's only been the second day, can't expect everything to be the way you want it to be right off the bat.
I have no quote!
Batch
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden692 Posts
April 14 2011 21:25 GMT
#3869
First time seeing Diggity cast (yes, I'm a SC noob) and now I can't get enough of him. Please give me more!
Berk
Profile Joined August 2010
27 Posts
April 14 2011 21:31 GMT
#3870
After watching the first couple of days, i do quite like this league set up so far, well done for bring some production values.
Constructively, If there was one thing I would improve, it the way the videos are replayed (i have to watch the replays mainly).
If I see that its 30 mins long, I can be pretty sure its a 2-0. Its like a spoiler after watching the first game. Is there anyway to put in an sc2casts type way of have one game at a time and hiding them in spoiler tabs?

Anyway great work, and I think this will work out to be a great league.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 14 2011 21:32 GMT
#3871
On April 15 2011 06:25 Batch wrote:
First time seeing Diggity cast (yes, I'm a SC noob) and now I can't get enough of him. Please give me more!


You ask and I deliver!

http://www.youtube.com/user/diggitySC#p/u/0/KTIdOtOddP4 for his most recent solo cast.

for some BW goodness. And a bonus blast from the past caster!
br0fivE
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada349 Posts
April 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#3872
gretorp < diggity

THE PUBLIC HAS SPOKEN
radu_c
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania226 Posts
April 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#3873
Grats Incontroll for the victory!
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 14 2011 21:42 GMT
#3874
On April 15 2011 06:32 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 06:25 Batch wrote:
First time seeing Diggity cast (yes, I'm a SC noob) and now I can't get enough of him. Please give me more!


You ask and I deliver!

http://www.youtube.com/user/diggitySC#p/u/0/KTIdOtOddP4 for his most recent solo cast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhBBZ2EFWLg for some BW goodness. And a bonus blast from the past caster!


Wow...That was an awful cast. I will seriously never complain about a SC2 casting duo again. To be clear, I'm not talking about the casters' independent casting, just the awful "dual" casting.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 21:45:20
April 14 2011 21:44 GMT
#3875
I don't get all the "not live" & "not hype" complaints....

There's a freaking full live tournament at the end of each season that should have a live audience and tons of hype.

You're basically getting 3-4 weeks of top level play in addition to a tournament that's going to be as big as an event like Dreamhack.

Yeah it'd be awesome if NASL had a studio audience everyday, but it'd be a lot of money for them to have a studio that large and I dunno if they'd be able to really get enough people everyday to make a good audience presence.

Everyone is basically complaining that the several hundred high level games they're getting over any other SC2 event to date isn't good enough. Give me a fucking break.

Now if the live tournament portion doesn't deliver the hype and quality of an event like Dreamhack or MLG then I'd consider the complaints legitimate (and damn that's a high bar for NASL to reach in Dreamhack's case).
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 14 2011 21:45 GMT
#3876
On April 15 2011 06:42 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 06:32 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On April 15 2011 06:25 Batch wrote:
First time seeing Diggity cast (yes, I'm a SC noob) and now I can't get enough of him. Please give me more!


You ask and I deliver!

http://www.youtube.com/user/diggitySC#p/u/0/KTIdOtOddP4 for his most recent solo cast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhBBZ2EFWLg for some BW goodness. And a bonus blast from the past caster!


Wow...That was an awful cast. I will seriously never complain about a SC2 casting duo again. To be clear, I'm not talking about the casters' independent casting, just the awful "dual" casting.


Haha, yeah...I can't even imagine how they worked it out technically. Even that one is miles better than the first few they did, though; the technical issues were pretty brutal, as I understand it. It was a different time.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
April 14 2011 21:46 GMT
#3877
Guys -

Can someone answer this for me? I am a subscriber to NASL -- when I go to www.nasl.tv/videos, I do not see the "one long video" thing that people are talking about. For instance, I'd like to watch the full Artosis vs. Sheth series. In the /Videos section, I click on the Artosis vs Sheth link and I get only the last game. Can someone advise me on this?

Thanks.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 14 2011 21:47 GMT
#3878
On April 15 2011 06:45 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 06:42 slyboogie wrote:
On April 15 2011 06:32 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On April 15 2011 06:25 Batch wrote:
First time seeing Diggity cast (yes, I'm a SC noob) and now I can't get enough of him. Please give me more!


You ask and I deliver!

http://www.youtube.com/user/diggitySC#p/u/0/KTIdOtOddP4 for his most recent solo cast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhBBZ2EFWLg for some BW goodness. And a bonus blast from the past caster!


Wow...That was an awful cast. I will seriously never complain about a SC2 casting duo again. To be clear, I'm not talking about the casters' independent casting, just the awful "dual" casting.


Haha, yeah...I can't even imagine how they worked it out technically. Even that one is miles better than the first few they did, though; the technical issues were pretty brutal, as I understand it. It was a different time.


Yeah, I should cut them some slack since this seems like it was three years ago, and things have changed quite a bit in terms of technology and familiarity. Still, it's like they're both fighting to get in as many words as possible before handing it off the the other guy for 2 minutes of non-stop talking.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
April 14 2011 21:49 GMT
#3879
On April 15 2011 05:47 Ezze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 05:26 Sqq wrote:
On April 15 2011 05:19 SKaREO wrote:
On April 15 2011 05:12 SonuvBob wrote:
On April 15 2011 04:34 SKaREO wrote:
This was a really weak tournament. North America could do a LOT better than this.

I didn't know it was over already.

I guess that was harsh. I just feel that this stream was very low quality compared to the average user stream, the tournament doesn't have that "GSL" feel to it if you know what I mean. Sure, they're new to this, but c'mon, you gotta make it a lot of fun for the viewers or they are going to get an unfavourable first impression.


Why don't you give some valid specific criticism instead of your last two responses ? What can they do better ? Do you have a solution, or an idea ? Is there something bothering you, and what can they do to improve your experience ?


I honestly don't think their current team is capable of putting out a quality production. It's just so awful. My suggestion would be to hire more competent staff, refund the $25 they essentially tricked so many people into buying, send out a public apology for how atrocious the production has been so far, and then try it again next season.

And if you want specific constructive criticism there's a thread for that already with about 20+ bullet points outlining what most viewers have been complaining about.


I dunno if you are talking in jest, regardless... the event has been acceptable.. like a 1000 times better than MLG in terms of production and product delivery. I would wait for at least a week or two before asking for my refund... and what is your beef with the production anyway? Gretorp and Incontrol are good casters, their lightning and camera work isn't professional, but I don't think it's a deal breaker since the video runs smoothly -- for the most part.
desderak
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
April 14 2011 21:49 GMT
#3880
sorry guys, had a look round and saw Naniwa's name floating around with White Ra in having his first game in the NASL forfeited? Is this true? and if so, what were the reasons given? Cheers.
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