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On April 14 2011 11:00 ArghUScaredMe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 11:00 ptbl wrote:On April 14 2011 10:58 NHY wrote:On April 14 2011 09:57 iNcontroL wrote:
2. We are aware that W/O's suck and are not what anybody wants... we are discussing ways to make this less frequent. We DO have a really ambitious schedule though so if players aren't communicating with us it will be really hard to cut them huge amounts of slack. Please know this league cannot exist with a bunch of w/o's so obviously we above all else want to work out how to solve this and we are on it!
White-Ra and NaNiWa both didn't have legitimate excuse for their behavior. They knew NASL and DH schedule beforehand and should have planned accordingly. You already have a player abusing your leniency so we are past slippery slope here. Although I don't know the exact rules for NASL but I believe not showing up to scheduled matches and causing your opponent wait for hours without a good reason warrants a warning, and DQ if it happens again. You're going to DQ the winner of the most recent MLG and probably the best protoss outside of Korea? Give me a break. WTF. So we give preferential treatment now? Why is White-Ra 'above the law'? wtf.
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On April 14 2011 11:00 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 11:00 ptbl wrote:On April 14 2011 10:58 NHY wrote:On April 14 2011 09:57 iNcontroL wrote:
2. We are aware that W/O's suck and are not what anybody wants... we are discussing ways to make this less frequent. We DO have a really ambitious schedule though so if players aren't communicating with us it will be really hard to cut them huge amounts of slack. Please know this league cannot exist with a bunch of w/o's so obviously we above all else want to work out how to solve this and we are on it!
White-Ra and NaNiWa both didn't have legitimate excuse for their behavior. They knew NASL and DH schedule beforehand and should have planned accordingly. You already have a player abusing your leniency so we are past slippery slope here. Although I don't know the exact rules for NASL but I believe not showing up to scheduled matches and causing your opponent wait for hours without a good reason warrants a warning, and DQ if it happens again. You're going to DQ the winner of the most recent MLG and probably the best protoss outside of Korea? Give me a break. So you're saying they're above the rules?
No, I'm saying NASL can be flexible.
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And everyone wants esports to be taken seriously...how about the actual competitors show up. White-ra was sort of unfortunate...but Naniwa is just being an ass and really unprofessional. Start being professional and maybe your "Sport" will be taken seriously in the future and attract more sponsors.
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On April 14 2011 11:00 ArghUScaredMe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 11:00 ptbl wrote:On April 14 2011 10:58 NHY wrote:On April 14 2011 09:57 iNcontroL wrote:
2. We are aware that W/O's suck and are not what anybody wants... we are discussing ways to make this less frequent. We DO have a really ambitious schedule though so if players aren't communicating with us it will be really hard to cut them huge amounts of slack. Please know this league cannot exist with a bunch of w/o's so obviously we above all else want to work out how to solve this and we are on it!
White-Ra and NaNiWa both didn't have legitimate excuse for their behavior. They knew NASL and DH schedule beforehand and should have planned accordingly. You already have a player abusing your leniency so we are past slippery slope here. Although I don't know the exact rules for NASL but I believe not showing up to scheduled matches and causing your opponent wait for hours without a good reason warrants a warning, and DQ if it happens again. You're going to DQ the winner of the most recent MLG and probably the best protoss outside of Korea? Give me a break. WTF. So we give preferential treatment now? Why is White-Ra 'above the law'? wtf.
did you read the thread
white-ra initially responded and was like im at dreamhack brb but never got back in touch after it was over
naniwa was like im going to sleep brb then went and laddered
how can you not see a difference
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Where's the stream at!?!?!
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On April 14 2011 11:00 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 10:58 NHY wrote:On April 14 2011 09:57 iNcontroL wrote:
2. We are aware that W/O's suck and are not what anybody wants... we are discussing ways to make this less frequent. We DO have a really ambitious schedule though so if players aren't communicating with us it will be really hard to cut them huge amounts of slack. Please know this league cannot exist with a bunch of w/o's so obviously we above all else want to work out how to solve this and we are on it!
White-Ra and NaNiWa both didn't have legitimate excuse for their behavior. They knew NASL and DH schedule beforehand and should have planned accordingly. You already have a player abusing your leniency so we are past slippery slope here. Although I don't know the exact rules for NASL but I believe not showing up to scheduled matches and causing your opponent wait for hours without a good reason warrants a warning, and DQ if it happens again. You're going to DQ the winner of the most recent MLG and probably the best protoss outside of Korea? Give me a break.
If they're going to do eSPORTS right, they have to be strict. Just because Naniwa won a tournament does not mean he suddenly has authority over the scheduling of the games. In fact, the rules should be so strict that if a player is late, there is NO OPTION but auto DQ unless there is a valid reason. And no, "I'm tired" is not a valid reason.
Imagine if Kobe said "guy's, I'm too tired. Let's play tomorrow instead." yeah right.
I know this isn't the same level, but I would not want to follow a league of inconsisitencies and rulings on the spot based on how people "felt" at the time.
You snooze, you lose.
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No clue as nasl.tv isn't running stream
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On April 14 2011 11:00 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 10:58 NHY wrote:On April 14 2011 09:57 iNcontroL wrote:
2. We are aware that W/O's suck and are not what anybody wants... we are discussing ways to make this less frequent. We DO have a really ambitious schedule though so if players aren't communicating with us it will be really hard to cut them huge amounts of slack. Please know this league cannot exist with a bunch of w/o's so obviously we above all else want to work out how to solve this and we are on it!
White-Ra and NaNiWa both didn't have legitimate excuse for their behavior. They knew NASL and DH schedule beforehand and should have planned accordingly. You already have a player abusing your leniency so we are past slippery slope here. Although I don't know the exact rules for NASL but I believe not showing up to scheduled matches and causing your opponent wait for hours without a good reason warrants a warning, and DQ if it happens again. You're going to DQ the winner of the most recent MLG and probably the best protoss outside of Korea? Give me a break.
Who cares how good he is?
Rules need to be enforced, regardless of how good a player is. Hell, even MC or MVP would need to forfeit their matches (their opponents would get walkovers) if they didn't show up to a match like this. Rules should apply to everyone and the regulators should act consistently towards all players.
Whatever the consequences or punishments end up being, they should be made standard and consistent towards all players. It doesn't matter if it's Boxer or MC or Idra or Joe Nobody.
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On April 14 2011 11:02 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 11:00 Serpico wrote:On April 14 2011 11:00 ptbl wrote:On April 14 2011 10:58 NHY wrote:On April 14 2011 09:57 iNcontroL wrote:
2. We are aware that W/O's suck and are not what anybody wants... we are discussing ways to make this less frequent. We DO have a really ambitious schedule though so if players aren't communicating with us it will be really hard to cut them huge amounts of slack. Please know this league cannot exist with a bunch of w/o's so obviously we above all else want to work out how to solve this and we are on it!
White-Ra and NaNiWa both didn't have legitimate excuse for their behavior. They knew NASL and DH schedule beforehand and should have planned accordingly. You already have a player abusing your leniency so we are past slippery slope here. Although I don't know the exact rules for NASL but I believe not showing up to scheduled matches and causing your opponent wait for hours without a good reason warrants a warning, and DQ if it happens again. You're going to DQ the winner of the most recent MLG and probably the best protoss outside of Korea? Give me a break. So you're saying they're above the rules? No, I'm saying NASL can be flexible.
/facepalm
Some people just don't listen to reason and thorough explanations given by the league AND other spectators.
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On April 14 2011 11:01 Treadmill wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 11:00 ptbl wrote:On April 14 2011 10:58 NHY wrote:On April 14 2011 09:57 iNcontroL wrote:
2. We are aware that W/O's suck and are not what anybody wants... we are discussing ways to make this less frequent. We DO have a really ambitious schedule though so if players aren't communicating with us it will be really hard to cut them huge amounts of slack. Please know this league cannot exist with a bunch of w/o's so obviously we above all else want to work out how to solve this and we are on it!
White-Ra and NaNiWa both didn't have legitimate excuse for their behavior. They knew NASL and DH schedule beforehand and should have planned accordingly. You already have a player abusing your leniency so we are past slippery slope here. Although I don't know the exact rules for NASL but I believe not showing up to scheduled matches and causing your opponent wait for hours without a good reason warrants a warning, and DQ if it happens again. You're going to DQ the winner of the most recent MLG and probably the best protoss outside of Korea? Give me a break. So rules shouldn't apply to people who are successful? Maybe its OK if they maphack too?
NASL is allowing TT1 to play in league even though he cheated in broodwar, etc.
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It is off for me as well, and that would line up wth what geoff said
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On April 14 2011 10:59 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
Can you tell me what "W/O" means?
It means walkover, as in the other person didnt show up, so it's essentially a disqualification for that one match
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Naniwa needs to stop being a prick...doesn't he already have a bad rep in parts of the community anyways?
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This is so stupid. 2 hour delay? Really? =/
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On April 14 2011 10:53 iNcontroL wrote:
not lagging for me at all o_o
Click the big red button that says 'go live', it's not lagging because there's no stream. Gogogo big guy!
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On April 14 2011 11:02 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 11:00 Serpico wrote:On April 14 2011 11:00 ptbl wrote:On April 14 2011 10:58 NHY wrote:On April 14 2011 09:57 iNcontroL wrote:
2. We are aware that W/O's suck and are not what anybody wants... we are discussing ways to make this less frequent. We DO have a really ambitious schedule though so if players aren't communicating with us it will be really hard to cut them huge amounts of slack. Please know this league cannot exist with a bunch of w/o's so obviously we above all else want to work out how to solve this and we are on it!
White-Ra and NaNiWa both didn't have legitimate excuse for their behavior. They knew NASL and DH schedule beforehand and should have planned accordingly. You already have a player abusing your leniency so we are past slippery slope here. Although I don't know the exact rules for NASL but I believe not showing up to scheduled matches and causing your opponent wait for hours without a good reason warrants a warning, and DQ if it happens again. You're going to DQ the winner of the most recent MLG and probably the best protoss outside of Korea? Give me a break. So you're saying they're above the rules? No, I'm saying NASL can be flexible.
How do you know, do you run it?
People, there are 25 series being played every week, which all need to have the NASL Observers in them as well. Think people... it's not simple "flexible"
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On April 14 2011 11:04 nathangonmad wrote:
This is so stupid. 2 hour delay? Really? =/
because the first game isn't going to be played,makes all the sense in the world.
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will stream be on anytime soon ? updates ?
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On April 14 2011 11:04 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 11:01 Treadmill wrote:On April 14 2011 11:00 ptbl wrote:On April 14 2011 10:58 NHY wrote:On April 14 2011 09:57 iNcontroL wrote:
2. We are aware that W/O's suck and are not what anybody wants... we are discussing ways to make this less frequent. We DO have a really ambitious schedule though so if players aren't communicating with us it will be really hard to cut them huge amounts of slack. Please know this league cannot exist with a bunch of w/o's so obviously we above all else want to work out how to solve this and we are on it!
White-Ra and NaNiWa both didn't have legitimate excuse for their behavior. They knew NASL and DH schedule beforehand and should have planned accordingly. You already have a player abusing your leniency so we are past slippery slope here. Although I don't know the exact rules for NASL but I believe not showing up to scheduled matches and causing your opponent wait for hours without a good reason warrants a warning, and DQ if it happens again. You're going to DQ the winner of the most recent MLG and probably the best protoss outside of Korea? Give me a break. So rules shouldn't apply to people who are successful? Maybe its OK if they maphack too? NASL is allowing TT1 to play in league even though he cheated in broodwar, etc.
You don't sentence a person to death for a grocery store thievery...
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