Casters:TorcH, Kelly Milkies and DoA (Code-A caster from last season.) There may also be quite a few guest appearances!
Broadcast Schedule:
Thursday 4/7/11, Starting at 7:00 AM Eastern.
TorcH and DoA will be broadcasting live from Korea in the GOMtv Foreigner House, with all of the players in front of them. This happens right after the Code-S group selection finishes.
Teams will select one player at the beginning of the tournament to play first, not knowing who their opponents will be. The winning player will stay in the "Hot Seat" and will challenge the next opponent from the opposing team. The player that wins stays in the seat while the player that loses is eliminated from the tournament in its entirety. The team with the last man standing wins!
Maps: GSL Maps (The exact order has not been decided.)
Prize? The shear pleasure of viewer entertainment!
Look for announcements regarding additional 'Clash of the Houses' Events as well as "After the Clash' online cash prize cups at the Cyber Sports Network website (Beta).
anyways, this is awesome! gomtv is letting you do this?
wow just checked out the MLG vids you guys did. great work with the production and getting these interviews. always great questions. looking forward to your success
HuK and HayPro were just at MLG Dallas, and Jinro stays at the OGS House I believe. So its just the actual World Allstars that are staying at the gomTV foreigner house and yes we will be working with gomTV to bring you guys a lot more events like this!
World All-Stars is looking Zerg heavy, with some big-name Protoss players thrown in there too. I'm a bit scared for them since they lack a Terran player, which could hurt their team depth. However, All their players still look scary nonetheless. Too bad Jinro couldn't tag along to bolster their numbers.
pretty late announcement :/ cant wait for this, looks like the Korean scene is merging with the world scene, im pretty sure World Allstars can take this )
No prize and foreigner terrans is kinda sad, only having to deal with 2 races kinda diminishes the value of the format, but should be really cool nonetheless!
On April 07 2011 07:41 dkream wrote: prolly wont feature mvp and nestea... but hopefully will see losira... who else is in IM?
It will feature Mvp and/or NesTea if the World All-stars can win at least 3 games. IM will bring out the big guns to ensure that they don't lose to foreigners. The only caveat is that there are no T's on the foreigner team, and Mvp's best matchup is TvT, and surely he's been practicing that matchup almost exclusively for the past couple of days.
I'd bet that we see Losira first from IM (their third best player, probably) in order to try to grab a lead. He's a pretty awesome ZvZer, but Dimaga or Sen could take him if conditions are right. I think the foreigners should start with Sen.
Awesome prize! This should be pretty exciting. I hope the Koreans take it semi-seriously. Or maybe I hope neither side take it seriously and just have ridiculous amounts of fun.
On April 07 2011 10:19 csn_andrew wrote: anyone wanna help us out on how we get the stream to be featured? Im a bit new to the TL process. I was able to get it approved on the calendar.
You don't ask to get featured, the mods feature you when they feel like you provide enough good content for the community to be featured.
The channel doesn't need to be featured. You can just pm a mod that this event is happening and so they can add it to calender then when the event starts it will be over to the side.
On April 07 2011 09:41 phANT1m wrote: I so think that World will win this, unless Nestea and IMMvP give a really crazy good showing and take enough games.
Losira is probably in the best game shape of this entire COTH tournament, with mvp at a close second. Honestly, IM has a better overall lineup both in terms of form (and probably skill) than the Korean All-stars team. I really don't think the World team has any chance.
if IM takes it seriously (same seriousness as GSTL) they should be able to easily take this, deep protoss line, though since IM has pretty much only MVP at terran, there isn't a race depth advantage. If they approach this as the Korean All-stars seemed to take this, world has a shot.
This is gonna be good. Although I think that IM will win out, they no that foreigners are not "just like computers" now so they may be prepared. I hope kelly doesn't get too much hate.
@stamper there is more stuff like this coming from Korea courtesy of CSN and Jtv! Also big shout out to TorcH for helping orchestrate these events.
@xlat it was a spur of the moment deal we tried to get it as organized as we could. We literally started planning this last night about at 2 in the morning.
This is a test run to see how the stream holds up / how the viewers enjoy something like this.
On April 07 2011 15:03 csn_andrew wrote: @xlat it was a spur of the moment deal we tried to get it as organized as we could. We literally started planning this last night about at 2 in the morning.
fair enough, just that it might not get the attention it deserves
Cool! We get to see some nice matches now, where hopefully desk/chair height, rumbling monitors, nerves from being in front of a huge crowd and lag won't be an issue.
I won't be able to see most of it either (assuming it starts on time). Damn.
I was just on the stream and spoke to Torch:
torchgaming: We'll probably be going live about 8p KST (7a EST), but we wont actually start the matches until about 20-30 min after the Code-S group selection finishes since we need some ppl that are there to come to the gom house first
While I hate to add to the pointless hating 'discussion', I guess I should mention that I'm tuning in because there looks to be some great matches - and the fact that I get to hear Torch again, who I haven't since GSL Season 1, and Kelly, who I found to be a solid caster for Code A, just makes it even better
Also, while I will be in general rooting for the world, NesTea is teh awesome, and I'm afraid I'll be rooting for him if he plays :D
You know I didn't see what everyone was hating on Kelly for but I see it now. Meaningless questions, awkward transitions, knows close to nothing about the game, and just seems to lack competence. I sincerely hope GOM does not pick her up for Code A.
Everyone on the stream has been asking for a White-Ra interview for the past ten minutes, and instead they're interviewing... carn?... who's not even playing -.-'
On April 07 2011 21:25 frogurt wrote: I bet that house would be full of shenanigans
Already had loads of camera trolling by TT1 and stories about Sen snoring and yelling about Protoss imbalance so loudly he's waking everyone up, seems like they're enjoying themselves.
IM is at their house, not enough room in the one. Coach was supposed to come from IM but got held up at the Gom studio. but all the foreigners are in the house!
On April 07 2011 21:43 csn_andrew wrote: IM is at their house, not enough room in the one. Coach was supposed to come from IM but got held up at the Gom studio. but all the foreigners are in the house!
We literally organized this, at 2 AM yesterday morning we just had a small window of opportunity and decided to act and actually do the event. So we did not have much time to get it announced everywhere we did the best we could with that amount of time we had. We are at 3k viewers for 8:48 am EST so we are happy with that!!
So for all of the U.S. people that got up early or stayed up all night like myself :p , hope you guys enjoy and just remember this is our first rodeo at doing this type of event from Korea. Please leave any suggestions/ comments here and we will do our best to make them happen!
On April 07 2011 21:48 csn_andrew wrote: We literally organized this, at 2 AM yesterday morning we just had a small window of opportunity and decided to act and actually do the event. So we did not have much time to get it announced everywhere we did the best we could with that amount of time we had. We are at 3k viewers for 8:48 am EST so we are happy with that!!
So for all of the U.S. people that got up early or stayed up all night like myself :p , hope you guys enjoy and just remember this is our first rodeo at doing this type of event from Korea. Please leave any suggestions/ comments here and we will do our best to make them happen!
pm a mod to link the stream at the sidebar! it will raise so much views
i have been working on getting the stream listed on the side for hours now, I want to thank the TL guys who I have been speaking to in IRC. They are trying but apparently only 2 guys can access that to allow that to be showed.
A ton of that supply was roaches, which were originally balanced around being 1 food. 200/200 roaches lose to any other 200/200 unit mix in the entire game except like observers :p
As for the rest, those were +3 attack Colossus. Of course they'll do great against zerg with no defense upgrades in the smallest choke on the entire map when half the units in the zerg can't attack.
The game's pretty much over, despite how many times the casters have said that White-Ra is coming back into the game (which I don't understand). gg any second.
White-Ra is defeated by IMTrue bringing the score to 1 IM 0 World Allstars as IM's True will remain in the hot seat and take on the World Allstars next player!
On April 07 2011 21:58 cuppatea wrote: So THAT'S how badly you have to outplay your opponent to barely win a ZvP. Nice.
WhiteRa was hardly outplayed. He showed amazing micro and the zerg played horribly in terms of picking some of the worst engagement spots on the map. That first attack would have won if half his units weren't attacking the Nexus while +3 Colossus roasted his army in the smallest choke on the map.
On April 07 2011 21:57 Sigmur wrote: I'm curious if IM members are giving tips to IMtrue, they all obs this game.
Lol please get out of here. Stop trying to validate his loss by insinuating there is cheating going on. With all these foreigners watching, HOW DO YOU KNOW... NO ONE IS messaging white-ra? Or no one is in the room with him. Or how do you know the door is actually closed? How do you know the room is entirely soundproof from them casting? It's easy to accuse both sides if you want to play that game.
On April 07 2011 21:58 cuppatea wrote: So THAT'S how badly you have to outplay your opponent to barely win a ZvP. Nice.
Page 9. First balance whine. Nice.
For what it's worth, IMTrue didn't exactly engage in the best positions for most of those battles. He just threw a crapload of units at White-Ra (whose micro held up for a little while) over and over again until he eventually overran him.
Really nice you organized this. Looking forward to see more of foreigners against koreans, doesn´t matter that it´s just a showmatch. Good luck foreigners, bad start white-ra sad you are out already.
On April 07 2011 21:58 cuppatea wrote: So THAT'S how badly you have to outplay your opponent to barely win a ZvP. Nice.
Win or lose, there just has to be balance complaints huh?
A few korean zerg pros have recently said ZvP is easier than ZvT - so clearly not everybody thinks the matchup is broken. please, just enjoy the games !!
On April 07 2011 21:57 Sigmur wrote: I'm curious if IM members are giving tips to IMtrue, they all obs this game.
Lol please get out of here. Stop trying to validate his loss by insinuating there is cheating going on. With all these foreigners watching, HOW DO YOU KNOW... NO ONE IS messaging white-ra? Or no one is in the room with him. Or how do you know the door is actually closed? How do you know the room is entirely soundproof from them casting? It's easy to accuse both sides if you want to play that game.
IMTrue didn't really play that amazing, highly doubtful he would have gotten any tips from his teammates. Koreans also seem like very honorable people.
On April 07 2011 21:58 cuppatea wrote: So THAT'S how badly you have to outplay your opponent to barely win a ZvP. Nice.
Even in this game, where whitera has been nomatch zergs are able to whine :-/ Maybe sac 200 pop to reduce protoss's army then repop instantly is the way how zerg should be played. Stop whining enjoy the game
On April 07 2011 21:58 cuppatea wrote: So THAT'S how badly you have to outplay your opponent to barely win a ZvP. Nice.
Win or lose, there just has to be balance complaints huh?
A few korean zerg pros have recently said ZvP is easier than ZvT - so clearly not everybody thinks the matchup is broken. please, just enjoy the games !!
ye of course the koreans are truly professionals afterall.
On April 07 2011 21:58 cuppatea wrote: So THAT'S how badly you have to outplay your opponent to barely win a ZvP. Nice.
Even in this game, where whitera has been nomatch zergs are able to whine :-/ Maybe sac 200 pop to reduce protoss's army then repop instantly is the way how zerg should be played. Stop whining enjoy the game
If you know anything about zerg play then you should know that zergs have been doing that for a long time now -_-, and half the time it doesn't work anyway if the protoss army is maxed out and actually close to your territory, you have no time to re-max.
Not sure I liked White-Ra's build for that map, it was nice how long he held out for though.
On April 07 2011 21:57 Sigmur wrote: I'm curious if IM members are giving tips to IMtrue, they all obs this game.
Lol please get out of here. Stop trying to validate his loss by insinuating there is cheating going on. With all these foreigners watching, HOW DO YOU KNOW... NO ONE IS messaging white-ra? Or no one is in the room with him. Or how do you know the door is actually closed? How do you know the room is entirely soundproof from them casting? It's easy to accuse both sides if you want to play that game.
First of all, don't order me what I should do. Second of all I didn't accusse anybody, nor tried to validate his loss. I just shared my intrest. Peace.
On April 07 2011 21:58 cuppatea wrote: So THAT'S how badly you have to outplay your opponent to barely win a ZvP. Nice.
Even in this game, where whitera has been nomatch zergs are able to whine :-/ Maybe sac 200 pop to reduce protoss's army then repop instantly is the way how zerg should be played. Stop whining enjoy the game
If you know anything about zerg play then you should know that zergs have been doing that for a long time now -_-, and half the time it doesn't work anyway if the protoss army is maxed out and actually close to your territory, you have no time to re-max.
Not sure I liked White-Ra's build for that map, it was nice how long he held out for though.
I dont want to enter into a balance discussion, I was just noticing that even after a game like this, there are zergs to whine.
Atm I'm just sad about one of our ace player is already knocked out :-/
Sen is winning against Zergling/Baneling/Roach/Hydra with Zergling/Baneling/Mutalisk because of his amazing Baneling control. He kills all the Hydras with banes (breaking through the roach wall in one area) and then cleans up with his mutas.
Not sure I agree with Sen's ZvZ style There was a huge window where IMTrue could've just gone and killed him, plus it's incredibly risky even when you get the mutas out.
On April 07 2011 22:30 hugman wrote: Not sure I agree with Sen's ZvZ style There was a huge window where IMTrue could've just gone and killed him, plus it's incredibly risky even when you get the mutas out.
Pretty much, Sen got a bit lucky but played well. Now we see who they throw up next.
On April 07 2011 22:39 Stamper wrote: Do they show video footage from the players too, or just the games and some layers? Just tuned in, so I didnt see any yet.
On April 07 2011 22:39 Stamper wrote: Do they show video footage from the players too, or just the games and some layers? Just tuned in, so I didnt see any yet.
Not really. Just the games.
Awww.. would love to see those nerds cheering when their teammate wins. :D Best moments of GSTLs is the teams facing each other and doing ceremonies after an epic win.
This is a pretty fun even, props to CSN, torch, doa, kelly and everyone else who had a hand in getting this up and running.
'We will make the global e-sports more global' :D. GOM really wants more foreigners out there lol, good to see that they are so motivated in promoting esports.
On April 07 2011 22:55 Bruft wrote: yoda, what an as*hole
I hope you get warned.
Its not like Yoda is a player who does all-in every match. Its a legitimate, obvious effective strategy. Edit: And yes, it may seem awkward in a show-match for us. But Koreans have different understanding. They don't bitch about cheese that much.
i dont understand why he'd do something like that in a showmatch... This is the time where you do funky builds like what Sen did against IMTrue. Not go 2 rax 4 rax allin.. Especially when there's no money on the line
On April 07 2011 22:58 nufcrulz wrote: i dont understand why he'd do something like that in a showmatch... This is the time where you do funky builds like what Sen did against IMTrue. Not go 2 rax 4 rax allin.. Especially when there's no money on the line
Can someone please explain this to Yoda
Well, koreans still don't want to lose against foreigners.
On April 07 2011 22:58 nufcrulz wrote: i dont understand why he'd do something like that in a showmatch... This is the time where you do funky builds like what Sen did against IMTrue. Not go 2 rax 4 rax allin.. Especially when there's no money on the line
Can someone please explain this to Yoda
Winning is never a bad reason to do something. Besides, it's still an interesting match!
On April 07 2011 22:58 nufcrulz wrote: i dont understand why he'd do something like that in a showmatch... This is the time where you do funky builds like what Sen did against IMTrue. Not go 2 rax 4 rax allin.. Especially when there's no money on the line
Can someone please explain this to Yoda
i agree but i think koreans dont like losing to foreigners, even in a showmatch
On April 07 2011 22:58 nufcrulz wrote: i dont understand why he'd do something like that in a showmatch... This is the time where you do funky builds like what Sen did against IMTrue. Not go 2 rax 4 rax allin.. Especially when there's no money on the line
Can someone please explain this to Yoda
Well, koreans still don't want to lose against foreigners.
But in this case the foreigners are actually better. Noones actually expecting IM to win....
Does anyone else think Kelly has significantly improved her pronunciation? I wasn't a big fan of her casting before, but she seems much better now then during her Code A run.
On April 07 2011 23:06 VonBlucher wrote: Does anyone else think Kelly has significantly improved her pronunciation? I wasn't a big fan of her casting before, but she seems much better now then during her Code A run.
On April 07 2011 23:06 VonBlucher wrote: Does anyone else think Kelly has significantly improved her pronunciation? I wasn't a big fan of her casting before, but she seems much better now then during her Code A run.
I don't really think there's any difference at all, but it does get easier to understand the more you listen to her.
On April 07 2011 22:58 nufcrulz wrote: i dont understand why he'd do something like that in a showmatch... This is the time where you do funky builds like what Sen did against IMTrue. Not go 2 rax 4 rax allin.. Especially when there's no money on the line
Can someone please explain this to Yoda
Well, koreans still don't want to lose against foreigners.
But in this case the foreigners are actually better. Noones actually expecting IM to win....
On April 07 2011 22:58 nufcrulz wrote: i dont understand why he'd do something like that in a showmatch... This is the time where you do funky builds like what Sen did against IMTrue. Not go 2 rax 4 rax allin.. Especially when there's no money on the line
Can someone please explain this to Yoda
Well, koreans still don't want to lose against foreigners.
But in this case the foreigners are actually better. Noones actually expecting IM to win....
Doesn't matter, koreans play to win.
Compared to foreigners who play to lose?
You try too hard.
Or maybe you don't try hard enough! nah jk, (I don't care about your argument I couldn't resist)
3 Zergs left for the world team~ not a lot of matchup variety but looking forward to dimaga getting to play at some point :D
On April 07 2011 23:06 VonBlucher wrote: Does anyone else think Kelly has significantly improved her pronunciation? I wasn't a big fan of her casting before, but she seems much better now then during her Code A run.
You and I must be listening to different streams then. Her pronunciation is just as bad. Either that, or its the terrible mics they are using =(. The dude that is NOT DOA though, seems to have a really good mic on his headset, why can't they lend it to DOA to use =(.
we will be fixing the problems as we do more of these, like I said this was our first trial run and appreciate any constructive criticism from you guys and don't go too harsh on us , we organized this in less than 48 hrs!
On April 07 2011 23:16 csn_andrew wrote: we will be fixing the problems as we do more of these, like I said this was our first trial run and appreciate any constructive criticism from you guys and don't go too harsh on us , we organized this in less than 48 hrs!
It's very much appreciated, an awesome event really =)
One piece of constructive criticism, please keep the first post up to date with the results (in a spoiler tag) as they happen so people can easily find out what's going on without having to wade through the thread ^^
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Hoping for a MorroW win so much, the poor guy really hasn't caught a break in "competitive" games while he's been over there.
On April 07 2011 23:17 Rayansaki wrote: I like how doa keeps saying IM doesn't have good protosses, when they have 2 of the best Ps in Korea.
Seed is decent, but I don't think he's one of the best P's in Korea right now...though given IM seem to be pretty much playing their B team I'd not be surprised if he plays (Yonghwa seems legit good)
On April 07 2011 23:16 csn_andrew wrote: we will be fixing the problems as we do more of these, like I said this was our first trial run and appreciate any constructive criticism from you guys and don't go too harsh on us , we organized this in less than 48 hrs!
It's very much appreciated, an awesome event really =)
One piece of constructive criticism, please keep the first post upto date with the results (in a spoiler tag) so people can easily find out what's going on without having to wade through the thread ^^
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Hoping for a MorroW win so much, the poor guy really hasn't caught a break in "competitive" games while he's been over there.
On April 07 2011 23:17 Rayansaki wrote: I like how doa keeps saying IM doesn't have good protosses, when they have 2 of the best Ps in Korea.
Seed is decent, but I don't think he's one of the best P's in Korea
Seed almost all killed oGs in the previous GSTL, only MC defeated him. Yonghwa is considered by many Koreans to be one of the best P's in the world, and he is famous for his builds. He created the 2-3 base voidray colossus push vs Zerg and the 3 stalker rush vs 4 gate, among other tricks and builds that many Protosses use on a regular basis nowadays.
Why do korean terrans have so much trouble with bane busts? They were popular months ago and people learned to easily stop them, but I guess they all forgot :x
On April 07 2011 23:16 csn_andrew wrote: we will be fixing the problems as we do more of these, like I said this was our first trial run and appreciate any constructive criticism from you guys and don't go too harsh on us , we organized this in less than 48 hrs!
It's very much appreciated, an awesome event really =)
One piece of constructive criticism, please keep the first post upto date with the results (in a spoiler tag) so people can easily find out what's going on without having to wade through the thread ^^
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Hoping for a MorroW win so much, the poor guy really hasn't caught a break in "competitive" games while he's been over there.
On April 07 2011 23:17 Rayansaki wrote: I like how doa keeps saying IM doesn't have good protosses, when they have 2 of the best Ps in Korea.
Seed is decent, but I don't think he's one of the best P's in Korea
Seed almost all killed oGs in the previous GSTL, only MC defeated him..
I'm well aware of the one accomplishment he has to his name that gets him so hyped. I'm also aware that he's still not qualified for Code S (not that that is an easy feat though), as well as the fact he didn't do particularly well in the last 2 SK asia champions trophies he played. He's 0-2 in competitive PvZ and 1-3 in competitive PvP.
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MorroW takes down Yoda, good bust, he's got that down pretty well it seems
On April 07 2011 23:16 csn_andrew wrote: we will be fixing the problems as we do more of these, like I said this was our first trial run and appreciate any constructive criticism from you guys and don't go too harsh on us , we organized this in less than 48 hrs!
It's very much appreciated, an awesome event really =)
One piece of constructive criticism, please keep the first post upto date with the results (in a spoiler tag) so people can easily find out what's going on without having to wade through the thread ^^
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Hoping for a MorroW win so much, the poor guy really hasn't caught a break in "competitive" games while he's been over there.
On April 07 2011 23:17 Rayansaki wrote: I like how doa keeps saying IM doesn't have good protosses, when they have 2 of the best Ps in Korea.
Seed is decent, but I don't think he's one of the best P's in Korea
Seed almost all killed oGs in the previous GSTL, only MC defeated him..
I'm well aware of the one accomplishment he has to his name that gets him so hyped. I'm also aware that he's still not qualified for Code S (not that that is an easy feat though), as well as the fact he didn't do particularly well in the last 2 SK asia champions trophies he played. He's 0-2 in competitive PvZ and 1-3 in competitive PvP.
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MorroW takes down Yoda, good bust, he's got that down pretty well it seems
Way to ignore the Yonghwa segment IM still has great P's
On April 07 2011 23:22 bgx wrote: morrow baneling busting probably...
As always lol
Against turtling terran? why the hell not.
Indeed, they have so weak defense before stim and siege mode. Not baneling busting a fast expanding terran is stupid considering how easy it is to successfully baneling bust it.
On April 07 2011 23:16 csn_andrew wrote: we will be fixing the problems as we do more of these, like I said this was our first trial run and appreciate any constructive criticism from you guys and don't go too harsh on us , we organized this in less than 48 hrs!
It's very much appreciated, an awesome event really =)
One piece of constructive criticism, please keep the first post upto date with the results (in a spoiler tag) so people can easily find out what's going on without having to wade through the thread ^^
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Hoping for a MorroW win so much, the poor guy really hasn't caught a break in "competitive" games while he's been over there.
On April 07 2011 23:17 Rayansaki wrote: I like how doa keeps saying IM doesn't have good protosses, when they have 2 of the best Ps in Korea.
Seed is decent, but I don't think he's one of the best P's in Korea
Seed almost all killed oGs in the previous GSTL, only MC defeated him..
I'm well aware of the one accomplishment he has to his name that gets him so hyped. I'm also aware that he's still not qualified for Code S (not that that is an easy feat though), as well as the fact he didn't do particularly well in the last 2 SK asia champions trophies he played. He's 0-2 in competitive PvZ and 1-3 in competitive PvP.
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MorroW takes down Yoda, good bust, he's got that down pretty well it seems
Way to ignore the Yonghwa segment IM still has great P's
Because my point was about Seed, I even ammended my original while you were quoting me the first time to say that Younghwa was legit good =p
On April 07 2011 23:22 bgx wrote: morrow baneling busting probably...
As always lol
Against turtling terran? why the hell not.
Indeed, they have so weak defense before ling speed and banelings. Not 2/4rax all-ining a fast expanding zerg is stupid considering how easy it is to successfully marine all-in it.
Fixed that for you.
Sorry, I'm just annoyed at the bias in this thread.
On April 07 2011 23:22 bgx wrote: morrow baneling busting probably...
As always lol
Against turtling terran? why the hell not.
Indeed, they have so weak defense before ling speed and banelings. Not 2/4rax all-ining a fast expanding zerg is stupid considering how easy it is to successfully marine all-in it.
Fixed that for you.
Sorry, I'm just annoyed at the bias in this thread.
On April 07 2011 23:22 bgx wrote: morrow baneling busting probably...
As always lol
Against turtling terran? why the hell not.
Indeed, they have so weak defense before ling speed and banelings. Not 2/4rax all-ining a fast expanding zerg is stupid considering how easy it is to successfully marine all-in it.
Fixed that for you.
Sorry, I'm just annoyed at the bias in this thread.
Well i can see other justinTVstreams just fine and i have a good internet and computer and since its not only me having problems it must be something on their end
On April 07 2011 23:56 Gezuz wrote: Well i can see other justinTVstreams just fine and i have a good internet and computer and since its not only me having problems it must be something on their end
Well I can see their stream just fine and I have good internet and computer and since it's not only me having problems it must be something on your end.
More likely that certain Justin.TV servers are having trouble (evidenced by only certain people having trouble and only certain bandwidths giving problems).
Really kind of an odd game though, "BearPunch" kept MorroW back on 2 bases for ages, then matched him on 3 too...but never secured a really solid position in the midgame and MorroW seemed to roll over almost every attack.
On April 08 2011 00:01 Azarkon wrote: Seems like teams like IM are starting to recruit "B-teamers," so to speak. I didn't even know IM had these players (except Yoda).
Every team has lesser known players, except maybe oGs.
On April 08 2011 00:01 Azarkon wrote: Seems like teams like IM are starting to recruit "B-teamers," so to speak. I didn't even know IM had these players (except Yoda).
It's a showmatch series. IM wants the guys who don't usually get to play have some screen time.
Is anyone restreaming this? I don't normally have any problems with justin.tv but the stream is just loading forever for me. Tried it in a few different browsers, don't know what to do!
On April 08 2011 00:04 tnud wrote: Morrow vs T is very nice. If IM knew morrow they would just bring up a random P and kill him already
tbh Gaebyul should probably have killed him too =p I think I can count on one hand the number of times a Terran kept a Zerg to 2 bases going through midgame, got their third up first, and then still lost the match hehe =p
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Seed is 0-2 vs Z in competitive series, but Protoss is definitely MorroW's kryptonite
On April 08 2011 00:10 OhDeezy wrote: Is anyone restreaming this? I don't normally have any problems with justin.tv but the stream is just loading forever for me. Tried it in a few different browsers, don't know what to do!
On April 08 2011 00:10 OhDeezy wrote: Is anyone restreaming this? I don't normally have any problems with justin.tv but the stream is just loading forever for me. Tried it in a few different browsers, don't know what to do!
huk is apparently restreaming,
And the quality seems better, even though it's on lower resolution. It goes smoother so probably the frames per second are better.
On April 08 2011 00:10 OhDeezy wrote: Is anyone restreaming this? I don't normally have any problems with justin.tv but the stream is just loading forever for me. Tried it in a few different browsers, don't know what to do!
On April 08 2011 00:10 OhDeezy wrote: Is anyone restreaming this? I don't normally have any problems with justin.tv but the stream is just loading forever for me. Tried it in a few different browsers, don't know what to do!
try putting it on 720p instead of best, worked for me
On April 08 2011 00:10 OhDeezy wrote: Is anyone restreaming this? I don't normally have any problems with justin.tv but the stream is just loading forever for me. Tried it in a few different browsers, don't know what to do!
try putting it on 720p instead of best, worked for me
morrow had what? 8 corruptors vs. 5 phoenix in that last engagement, he lost quite a bit when he got blunked. Corruptors didnt lose him the game, hydras not doing their job did.
On April 08 2011 00:34 halvorg wrote: morrow had what? 8 corruptors vs. 5 phoenix in that last engagement, he lost quite a bit when he got blunked. Corruptors didnt lose him the game, hydras not doing their job did.
He made a total of 10-12 corruptors and he didnt make them for phoenix, he got tricked and if those had been hydra it would've been pretty much even trade in that fight.
he remaxed after 4-5 of those corruptors died though, and had a supply lead + toss had wasted supply on phoenix. Very good forcefields won that fight, i didnt see morrows upgrade but i guess they weren't 2/2 yet. Saying that morrow lost because of corruptors is just ignorant.
On April 08 2011 00:36 susySquark wrote: Why send Huk, who is BAD at PvP, against Yonghwa, who is a PvP specialist sniper?
Jinro's not confident in TvP right now I think he stated. Not sure why they didn't send out one of the zergs but they probably wouldn't have a good chance on this map tbh.... not good for Z at all because of the natural.
On April 08 2011 00:34 halvorg wrote: morrow had what? 8 corruptors vs. 5 phoenix in that last engagement, he lost quite a bit when he got blunked. Corruptors didnt lose him the game, hydras not doing their job did.
He made a total of 10-12 corruptors and he didnt make them for phoenix, he got tricked and if those had been hydra it would've been pretty much even trade in that fight.
he remaxed after 4-5 of those corruptors died though, and had a supply lead + toss had wasted supply on phoenix. Very good forcefields won that fight, i didnt see morrows upgrade but i guess they weren't 2/2 yet. Saying that morrow lost because of corruptors is just ignorant.
He made 10-12 or so completely useless corruptors. That's a lot of resources and supply better invested in hydras, or even tech to infestor. I don't know what else to say the corruptors are why he lost. He had good concave just not enough ground units. He did remax on hydra but none of them were able to do a thing since his main army was already dead.
On April 08 2011 00:44 Rayansaki wrote: Yonghwa is invincible vs P and Z unless he messes up. Jinro needs to step up :X
no. jinro hates tvp
So does Yonghwa :X well not hate but it's his weakest matchup, since he's nearly invincible vP and vZ and he pioneered the most popular tactics and tricks of those 2 matchups.
On April 08 2011 00:54 Tommylew wrote: yes waste huk on a pvp whihc he sucks at and then play jinro after losing huk when you should of had him out there 1st
huk needs to learn to play pvp,, only way to learn is to play,, once he's lost enough pvp's publicly he will find the resolve to step it up.. =)
On April 08 2011 00:54 Tommylew wrote: yes waste huk on a pvp whihc he sucks at and then play jinro after losing huk when you should of had him out there 1st
Huk immediatly left the game and said GN to chatroom on his stream after the game ended so I'm guessing he was tired so wanted to play early and leave. It's 1am there
moonglade is really yet to show any results in korea. everybody is saying how much he improved and stuff, but anytime he goes against a korean in a remotely important match, he gets crushed pretty badly.
And it has been said Dimaga is very weak vs. P right now. Ideally Jinro wins then loses to a zerg and Dimaga cleans up. Although I see Youghwa cleaning up.
So, don't know if it's been asked before but not in the pages I read; The stream isn't working for me, I get the ad and then just a black screen. Any way to fix that? Oh and yeah, I tried the quality lower thing.
On April 08 2011 01:22 bgx wrote: well they are saving dimaga for nestea which is understandable
I don't know if they'll even send out NesTea, not sure how many more players on their roster but they've pretty much stuck with a B team line up so far. They do have a few more guys like that they could use, maybe give PeanutCookie a run out, they've got Junwi too, and perhaps some of the guys like King(Pippi)/Horror etc
On April 08 2011 01:24 Fyzar wrote: So, don't know if it's been asked before but not in the pages I read; The stream isn't working for me, I get the ad and then just a black screen. Any way to fix that?
Try out the 720 and 360 options, I had to toggle between them a bit till it finally worked (on 720)
On April 08 2011 01:24 Fyzar wrote: So, don't know if it's been asked before but not in the pages I read; The stream isn't working for me, I get the ad and then just a black screen. Any way to fix that?
That game was a little painful, though I guess if the ling/baneling drop hadn't got scouted things would have been rather better for Glade.
It's his fault that it got scouted, not like it was bad luck or something. With those starting positions he needed to set up to the north (or not do it at all). Can't just copy Dimaga's game and not think about it.
On April 08 2011 01:32 THM wrote: Guys, the stream won't load for me, it just stays black and nothing happens. Anyone had that problem? Can you help me out? <3
On April 08 2011 01:32 THM wrote: Guys, the stream won't load for me, it just stays black and nothing happens. Anyone had that problem? Can you help me out? <3
Try setting it to 720p
Tried everything from 240p to Best, still the same black screen... Tried with both Firefox and Chrome and nothing. Hmm.....
On April 08 2011 01:32 THM wrote: Guys, the stream won't load for me, it just stays black and nothing happens. Anyone had that problem? Can you help me out? <3
Try setting it to 720p
Tried everything from 240p to Best, still the same black screen... Tried with both Firefox and Chrome and nothing. Hmm.....
Worked for me on 720p on IE. I had the same problem with the other options.
On April 08 2011 01:32 THM wrote: Guys, the stream won't load for me, it just stays black and nothing happens. Anyone had that problem? Can you help me out? <3
Try setting it to 720p
Tried everything from 240p to Best, still the same black screen... Tried with both Firefox and Chrome and nothing. Hmm.....
Keep trying it by switching, I had exactly the same but eventually it worked.
these casterse are quite bad, they're missing so much things. forgot about analyzing info they dont even know about all those missing drops and that he is making a mothership
This doesn't seem like YoungHwa AT ALL, he sat at 200/200 for 10mins. What is going on? Is there some kind of bet at the IM house on dragging the game out for as long as possible?
LOL at all the people who said that they wont watch this because of Kelly, you just missed one of most epic T V P's to date, 55 mins and counting, so the the jokes on you, go travelling and start with leaving your state....
On April 08 2011 01:58 Zaphid wrote: Ghandi toss not fightiiiiing!
LOL This has been an epic game, Battlecruisers, mothership, nukes, mass recall, so good. If this was being commentated by tastosis id be having nerdgasms everywhere right now
On April 08 2011 02:01 Dommk wrote: This doesn't seem like YoungHwa AT ALL, he sat at 200/200 for 10mins. What is going on? Is there some kind of bet at the IM house on dragging the game out for as long as possible?
On April 08 2011 02:01 Dommk wrote: This doesn't seem like YoungHwa AT ALL, he sat at 200/200 for 10mins. What is going on? Is there some kind of bet at the IM house on dragging the game out for as long as possible?
Jinro returning the favor while 100 food ahead.
YoungHwa doesn't even seem to be caring, he sat at 200/200 for 10mins with 5k/3k, didn't bother to build a second robo, goes for the latest Mothership ever......so stupid, there needs to be some kind of cash prize because this is dumb
On April 08 2011 02:01 CursedRich wrote: LOL at all the people who said that they wont watch this because of Kelly, you just missed one of most epic T V P's to date, 55 mins and counting, so the the jokes on you, go travelling and start with leaving your state....
That was not an epic TvP game. I saw a passive game where both sides built up with an occassional drop-play and push, followed by a retreat and rebuild.
I don't understand how YongHwa could throw the game away like that.
On April 08 2011 02:01 CursedRich wrote: LOL at all the people who said that they wont watch this because of Kelly, you just missed one of most epic T V P's to date, 55 mins and counting, so the the jokes on you, go travelling and start with leaving your state....
That was not an epic TvP game. I saw a passive game where both sides built up with an occassional drop-play and push, followed by a retreat and rebuild.
I don't understand how YongHwa could throw the game away like that.
How can the 20+ nukes Jinro used in that game not be epic?
On April 08 2011 02:04 Nightrain wrote: it felt so forced to go longer to give an epic impression, was boring tbh.
Agreed. Nothing special really.
ye, sitting on 200 food is not epic for me like few drops entire game ehhh
I did somewhat feel like they dragged the games out a bit, but I don't think it was deliberate. It's 1 am where I am now, it'll be 2 am in Korea. Maybe the players are zoning out already...
That felt pretty forced. Good showmatch value though, with giant clashes, nuke/mothership/bc, and tons of things mined out. Am thinking that either player could have ended it multiple times but dragged it out for good showmatch funzies.
On April 08 2011 02:01 CursedRich wrote: LOL at all the people who said that they wont watch this because of Kelly, you just missed one of most epic T V P's to date, 55 mins and counting, so the the jokes on you, go travelling and start with leaving your state....
That was not an epic TvP game. I saw a passive game where both sides built up with an occassional drop-play and push, followed by a retreat and rebuild.
I don't understand how YongHwa could throw the game away like that.
How can the 20+ nukes Jinro used in that game not be epic?
if yongwha didn't just sit for funsies the game would have ended before the nukes duhg
On April 08 2011 02:01 CursedRich wrote: LOL at all the people who said that they wont watch this because of Kelly, you just missed one of most epic T V P's to date, 55 mins and counting, so the the jokes on you, go travelling and start with leaving your state....
That was not an epic TvP game. I saw a passive game where both sides built up with an occassional drop-play and push, followed by a retreat and rebuild.
I don't understand how YongHwa could throw the game away like that.
Long game =/ epic game.
It's just a fun showmatch, wouldn't be very fun for yonghwa to finish off the world team so he threw the game.
On April 08 2011 02:01 CursedRich wrote: LOL at all the people who said that they wont watch this because of Kelly, you just missed one of most epic T V P's to date, 55 mins and counting, so the the jokes on you, go travelling and start with leaving your state....
That was not an epic TvP game. I saw a passive game where both sides built up with an occassional drop-play and push, followed by a retreat and rebuild.
I don't understand how YongHwa could throw the game away like that.
How can the 20+ nukes Jinro used in that game not be epic?
becasue he got 5k gas/mineral stacked so it was logical and safe play, protoss was letting jinro built whatever he wanted... im not into non-aggression pact games, nukes are awesome when its part of strategy not when u have 5k stacked and u have nothing to do with it, destroying 5 cannons with nuke is epic?
Jinro takes out IMYungHwa making it 6-6 in perhaps one of the most epic TvP we have ever seen! For those asking you will be able to get the vods @ CSN YouTube Channel
Long game but not epic. Yonghwa never crossed over to Jinro's side of the map. He played so passive. Never attacked or tried to deny expo even with advantage. After taking out 3 players, I don't know if he was even trying anymore.
@csn_andrew, was there any reason this couldn't have been done on like friday at a regular GSL time instead of going into like 2am korean time lol. probly get more viewers and stuff. Well I guess the 8v8 was an impromptu thing so guess there is always next time.
With a bit more exposure (notice) could probably pick up alot more viewers~ otherwise enjoyable event :D
On April 08 2011 01:32 THM wrote: Guys, the stream won't load for me, it just stays black and nothing happens. Anyone had that problem? Can you help me out? <3
Try setting it to 720p
Tried everything from 240p to Best, still the same black screen... Tried with both Firefox and Chrome and nothing. Hmm.....
Keep trying it by switching, I had exactly the same but eventually it worked.
On April 08 2011 02:10 csn_andrew wrote: Jinro takes out IMYungHwa making it 6-6 in perhaps one of the most epic TvP we have ever seen! For those asking you will be able to get the vods @ CSN YouTube Channel
On April 08 2011 02:01 CursedRich wrote: LOL at all the people who said that they wont watch this because of Kelly, you just missed one of most epic T V P's to date, 55 mins and counting, so the the jokes on you, go travelling and start with leaving your state....
That was not an epic TvP game. I saw a passive game where both sides built up with an occassional drop-play and push, followed by a retreat and rebuild.
I don't understand how YongHwa could throw the game away like that.
Long game =/ epic game.
It's just a fun showmatch, wouldn't be very fun for yonghwa to finish off the world team so he threw the game.
What?!
So, because this is a showmatch you really think IM woul thrown away the game?
On April 08 2011 02:01 CursedRich wrote: LOL at all the people who said that they wont watch this because of Kelly, you just missed one of most epic T V P's to date, 55 mins and counting, so the the jokes on you, go travelling and start with leaving your state....
That was not an epic TvP game. I saw a passive game where both sides built up with an occassional drop-play and push, followed by a retreat and rebuild.
I don't understand how YongHwa could throw the game away like that.
Long game =/ epic game.
It's just a fun showmatch, wouldn't be very fun for yonghwa to finish off the world team so he threw the game.
What?!
So, because this is a showmatch you really think IM woul thrown away the game?
well either yongwha has terrible pvt game sense or he let jinro recover for the showmatch's sake...i'm thinking the latter (lol=
On April 08 2011 02:01 CursedRich wrote: LOL at all the people who said that they wont watch this because of Kelly, you just missed one of most epic T V P's to date, 55 mins and counting, so the the jokes on you, go travelling and start with leaving your state....
That was not an epic TvP game. I saw a passive game where both sides built up with an occassional drop-play and push, followed by a retreat and rebuild.
I don't understand how YongHwa could throw the game away like that.
How can the 20+ nukes Jinro used in that game not be epic?
The 20+ fails? A game shouldn't be that passive to allow that many nukes anyway. Nukes don't make a game epic, just because they're underused. Almost every unit in the game was made from both sides because they were so indecisive.
On an unrelated note, if you want an epic TvP without the passive bits go watch Bomber vs WhiteRa game 4 from the ICCup showmatch =) (well, that whole series for some brilliant T play vs P imo)
I can't recall ever being really impressed by Junwi when I've seen him play, but he did almost qualify for Code A again so he must be doing something right most of the time.
On April 08 2011 02:10 csn_andrew wrote: Jinro takes out IMYungHwa making it 6-6 in perhaps one of the most epic TvP we have ever seen! For those asking you will be able to get the vods @ CSN YouTube Channel
Jinro marine tank most of the way, Junwi with muta ling bling. Jinro's gosu marine splits = ends up ahead on bling fights, but... omg base race in progress now. mutas in main, mass marine in main!
Junwi takes the island, Jinro tries to drop on it but mutalisks come in to intercept, Jinro loses a lot of his army as they are caught in between. Muta ball quite big, 29 mutas.
On April 08 2011 02:33 snIJIJzer wrote: why didnt jinro spam some sick turrets around his 3d when that 'semi-base trade' started? So much banked at that point. He still got this though..
Ya, he played pretty poorly there for a while, this should've been over. Well, it's still over, but we would've seen ''gg'' already.
Dunno why the commentators were saying "Jinro is in trouble here" when they were, seemed pretty clear he had the game due to getting turrets up while basetrading.
On April 08 2011 02:38 krneki wrote: can't get rid of feeling that team IM is trolling us all with sub-par performance
There's always gotta be a reason for foreigners to perform well right? Jinro was ro4 x2 in gsl, obviously he can beat koreans. So can all the others aswell.
On April 08 2011 02:38 krneki wrote: can't get rid of feeling that team IM is trolling us all with sub-par performance
Nah, IM pretty much playing predominantly B team players and everyone knows Jinro is legit good. Younghwa played a bit odd in his last game, but there can be many reasons for that.
Whatever, it's been an awesome event and I'm happy to see Jinro coming through for the world team and picking up some wins =)
On April 08 2011 02:38 krneki wrote: can't get rid of feeling that team IM is trolling us all with sub-par performance
There's always gotta be a reason for foreigners to perform well right? Jinro was ro4 x2 in gsl, obviously he can beat koreans. So can all the others aswell.
"So can all the others as well"
*laugh* Right... like in the recent actual MONEY tournament? hahahah you make me laugh. Seems like foreigners can only win in no money show matches.
On April 08 2011 02:38 krneki wrote: can't get rid of feeling that team IM is trolling us all with sub-par performance
There's always gotta be a reason for foreigners to perform well right? Jinro was ro4 x2 in gsl, obviously he can beat koreans. So can all the others aswell.
Well, considering its just a showmatch, and the competition is much less cut throat, they are probably intent of sending out their lesser known players in order to give them some good practice.
On April 08 2011 02:43 deerpark87 wrote: MVP, NESTEA, and Losria not playing. Probably saving their built for code S. Don't wan to reveal anything on stream.
On April 08 2011 02:38 krneki wrote: can't get rid of feeling that team IM is trolling us all with sub-par performance
There's always gotta be a reason for foreigners to perform well right? Jinro was ro4 x2 in gsl, obviously he can beat koreans. So can all the others aswell.
i'm aware of that, also i agree they mostly sent B-teamers, but still those game looked really weird, to put it mildly
On April 08 2011 02:43 deerpark87 wrote: MVP, NESTEA, and Losria not playing. Probably saving their built for code S. Don't wan to reveal anything on stream.
More like clock is 3 am and they are asleep.
Losira was obsing the last game. About NesTea and MVP, I dunno.
On April 08 2011 02:43 deerpark87 wrote: MVP, NESTEA, and Losria not playing. Probably saving their built for code S. Don't wan to reveal anything on stream.
No, they are probably giving the lesser known players exposure, since it is a showmatch.
On April 08 2011 02:45 InPhInItY wrote: im just saying what was on everyones mind
Don't speak for me, man. I'm not a fan of her casting, but insulting her is not useful.
To be honest a lot of people just can't stand it, and most people probably think her casting detracts from the experience, it certainly does for me. I understand the outrage and if we don't voice our opinion we won't get to hear better casters doing awesome games like this.
On April 08 2011 02:43 deerpark87 wrote: MVP, NESTEA, and Losria not playing. Probably saving their built for code S. Don't wan to reveal anything on stream.
No, they are probably giving the lesser known players exposure, since it is a showmatch.
Right. There are no prizes, according to the OP.
Jinro's lucky MVP isn't playing against him. IIRC Jinro said last time that he's not very good vs MVP.
On April 08 2011 02:45 InPhInItY wrote: im just saying what was on everyones mind
Don't speak for me, man. I'm not a fan of her casting, but insulting her is not useful.
To be honest a lot of people just can't stand it, and most people probably think her casting detracts from the experience, it certainly does for me. I understand the outrage and if we don't voice our opinion we won't get to hear better casters doing awesome games like this.
I'm not objecting to the "I don't like it because of reason X". I'm objecting to the "ZOMG SHE IZ A B**CH AMIRITE LOL". Again... I'm not a fan, but insulting her is not useful.
On April 08 2011 02:45 InPhInItY wrote: im just saying what was on everyones mind
Don't speak for me, man. I'm not a fan of her casting, but insulting her is not useful.
To be honest a lot of people just can't stand it, and most people probably think her casting detracts from the experience, it certainly does for me. I understand the outrage and if we don't voice our opinion we won't get to hear better casters doing awesome games like this.
There's a difference between voicing dissatisfaction and being a prick.
dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
On April 08 2011 02:45 InPhInItY wrote: im just saying what was on everyones mind
Don't speak for me, man. I'm not a fan of her casting, but insulting her is not useful.
To be honest a lot of people just can't stand it, and most people probably think her casting detracts from the experience, it certainly does for me. I understand the outrage and if we don't voice our opinion we won't get to hear better casters doing awesome games like this.
The guy called her a stupid bitch. That's not the way to voice your displeasure.
Wow this happy fellow is pretty good. Sets up a contain right outside Jinro's second. He coudl just walk in and kill him, so many tanks and rines more than Jinro... =(
On April 08 2011 02:43 deerpark87 wrote: MVP, NESTEA, and Losria not playing. Probably saving their built for code S. Don't wan to reveal anything on stream.
No, they are probably giving the lesser known players exposure, since it is a showmatch.
Right. There are no prizes, according to the OP.
Jinro's lucky MVP isn't playing against him. IIRC Jinro said last time that he's not very good vs MVP.
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
Ack i thought the first banshee was right above my marines when i stimmed, but i think theres some funky 3d terrain out over the water so he was actually almost out of range =[!
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
these are also not the top foreigners.. obviously if they wanted to play seriously Sen etc couldve easily 8-0d most of these IM players..
On April 08 2011 02:45 InPhInItY wrote: im just saying what was on everyones mind
Don't speak for me, man. I'm not a fan of her casting, but insulting her is not useful.
To be honest a lot of people just can't stand it, and most people probably think her casting detracts from the experience, it certainly does for me. I understand the outrage and if we don't voice our opinion we won't get to hear better casters doing awesome games like this.
Nothing wrong with disliking Kelly's casting. I can barely tolerate it myself. Calling her a stupid b*tch is out of line.
On April 08 2011 02:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Ack i thought the first banshee was right above my marines when i stimmed, but i think theres some funky 3d terrain out over the water so he was actually almost out of range =[!
The banshee looked like it was right over your marines too.
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
And so it all comes to down to the final match, Happy vs Dimaga.
On April 08 2011 02:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Ack i thought the first banshee was right above my marines when i stimmed, but i think theres some funky 3d terrain out over the water so he was actually almost out of range =[!
D'awww
You still looked pretty damn sharp though, feeling a bit more back in the groove this last week or so?
On April 08 2011 02:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Ack i thought the first banshee was right above my marines when i stimmed, but i think theres some funky 3d terrain out over the water so he was actually almost out of range =[!
No probs! Well done with the 2-kill! Plus, I love my ace matches.
On April 08 2011 02:43 deerpark87 wrote: MVP, NESTEA, and Losria not playing. Probably saving their built for code S. Don't wan to reveal anything on stream.
No, they are probably giving the lesser known players exposure, since it is a showmatch.
Right. There are no prizes, according to the OP.
Jinro's lucky MVP isn't playing against him. IIRC Jinro said last time that he's not very good vs MVP.
IMHappy is the smurf account for the team according to a bunch of people in chat.
On April 08 2011 02:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Ack i thought the first banshee was right above my marines when i stimmed, but i think theres some funky 3d terrain out over the water so he was actually almost out of range =[!
Its ok, you took out Junwi and Yonghwa. *Pats on back*
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
these are also not the top foreigners.. obviously if they wanted to play seriously Sen etc couldve easily 8-0d most of these IM players..
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ARE YOU DUMB?
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
and what is IM's A-team?
Losira...MVP......Nestea...the only *questionable A tearmer for IM that played today* was Yonghwa
On April 08 2011 02:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Ack i thought the first banshee was right above my marines when i stimmed, but i think theres some funky 3d terrain out over the water so he was actually almost out of range =[!
On April 08 2011 02:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Ack i thought the first banshee was right above my marines when i stimmed, but i think theres some funky 3d terrain out over the water so he was actually almost out of range =[!
You did awesome still! I'm soo impressed (once again) by your play!
Specially the TvP you played! More of that on stream now! ^^;
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
these are also not the top foreigners.. obviously if they wanted to play seriously Sen etc couldve easily 8-0d most of these IM players..
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ARE YOU DUMB?
awesome argument there , doesnt really warrant any sort of response from me i guess.
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
On April 08 2011 02:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Ack i thought the first banshee was right above my marines when i stimmed, but i think theres some funky 3d terrain out over the water so he was actually almost out of range =[!
If the air unit it directly below you, it looks closer than it actually is. It doesn't matter so much when the air unit is to the left or the right of your marines (it will still be a little "lower" than it looks though).
Yeah, 3D crap for air units.
Edit: And if the air unit is above your units, it will actually be a little closer to your marines than it looks.
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
these are also not the top foreigners.. obviously if they wanted to play seriously Sen etc couldve easily 8-0d most of these IM players..
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ARE YOU DUMB?
awesome argument there , doesnt really warrant any sort of response from me i guess.
gl with your blind korean fanboyism
Do you even watch the GSL? Sen only made one GSL and he can't qualify anymore and you think he can 8-0 the IM team? hahahhha, make an argument, try your hardest.
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
and what is IM's A-team?
Losira...MVP......Nestea...the only *questionable A tearmer for IM that played today* was Yonghwa
So A-team only has 3 players and a questionable 4th player? lol? im sure 4 players is enough to win GSTL right?
Do you even watch the GSL? Sen only made one GSL and he can't qualify anymore and you think he can 8-0 the IM team? hahahhha, make an argument, try your hardest.
What? He hasn't tried to qualify as he's still in school.
On April 08 2011 02:43 deerpark87 wrote: MVP, NESTEA, and Losria not playing. Probably saving their built for code S. Don't wan to reveal anything on stream.
No, they are probably giving the lesser known players exposure, since it is a showmatch.
Right. There are no prizes, according to the OP.
Jinro's lucky MVP isn't playing against him. IIRC Jinro said last time that he's not very good vs MVP.
IMHappy is the smurf account for the team according to a bunch of people in chat.
I'm pretty sure that was MVP Jinro just played.
There is an actual player known as IMHappy in IM's rooster. So no most likely it's not MvP.
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
these are also not the top foreigners.. obviously if they wanted to play seriously Sen etc couldve easily 8-0d most of these IM players..
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ARE YOU DUMB?
awesome argument there , doesnt really warrant any sort of response from me i guess.
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
these are also not the top foreigners.. obviously if they wanted to play seriously Sen etc couldve easily 8-0d most of these IM players..
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ARE YOU DUMB?
awesome argument there , doesnt really warrant any sort of response from me i guess.
gl with your blind korean fanboyism
Do you even watch the GSL? Sen only made one GSL and he can't qualify anymore and you think he can 8-0 the IM team? hahahhha, make an argument, try your hardest.
If sen wanted to and practiced enough for it he'd easily get through the qualifiers
just watch the stream, look at them, there's no tension, all of them are chilled out, no pressure..
korean diehards "foreigners can never defeat koreans!"
team World almost beating IM "well they didn't try! and their two best players didn't play!"
keep making excuses. I can understand the one about nestea and MVP not playing but to try and say "I don't think the koreans are trying" is just pathetic
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
and what is IM's A-team?
Losira...MVP......Nestea...the only *questionable A tearmer for IM that played today* was Yonghwa
So A-team only has 3 players and a questionable 4th player? lol? im sure 4 players is enough to win GSTL right?
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
and what is IM's A-team?
Losira...MVP......Nestea...the only *questionable A tearmer for IM that played today* was Yonghwa
So A-team only has 3 players and a questionable 4th player? lol? im sure 4 players is enough to win GSTL right?
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
and what is IM's A-team?
Losira...MVP......Nestea...the only *questionable A tearmer for IM that played today* was Yonghwa
So A-team only has 3 players and a questionable 4th player? lol? im sure 4 players is enough to win GSTL right?
On April 08 2011 03:02 ChiNo621 wrote: korean diehards "foreigners can never defeat koreans!"
team World almost beating IM "well they didn't try! and their two best players didn't play!"
keep making excuses. I can understand the one about nestea and MVP not playing but to try and say "I don't think the koreans are trying" is just pathetic
are you stupid? has anyone said they aren't trying? people are making excuses because foreigners can't even beat koreans NOT in the GSL
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
and what is IM's A-team?
Losira...MVP......Nestea...the only *questionable A tearmer for IM that played today* was Yonghwa
So A-team only has 3 players and a questionable 4th player? lol? im sure 4 players is enough to win GSTL right?
Alicia Ryung and MMA say HI
Alicia Ryung and MMA say they're not in IM
So? Learn to read.
exactly which part do you want me to learn to read? the part where i asked who the A-team of IM is and you tell me 3 players thats not even in IM?
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
these are also not the top foreigners.. obviously if they wanted to play seriously Sen etc couldve easily 8-0d most of these IM players..
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ARE YOU DUMB?
awesome argument there , doesnt really warrant any sort of response from me i guess.
gl with your blind korean fanboyism
Do you even watch the GSL? Sen only made one GSL and he can't qualify anymore and you think he can 8-0 the IM team? hahahhha, make an argument, try your hardest.
If sen wanted to and practiced enough for it he'd easily get through the qualifiers
just watch the stream, look at them, there's no tension, all of them are chilled out, no pressure..
im pretty sure its different over at the IM house
They probably care SO much about a showmatch for no money
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
and what is IM's A-team?
Losira...MVP......Nestea...the only *questionable A tearmer for IM that played today* was Yonghwa
So A-team only has 3 players and a questionable 4th player? lol? im sure 4 players is enough to win GSTL right?
Alicia Ryung and MMA say HI
Alicia Ryung and MMA say they're not in IM
So? Learn to read.
exactly which part do you want me to learn to read? the part where i asked who the A-team of IM is and you tell me 3 players thats not even in IM?
Last post on this subject. You asked if an A team can only consist of 4 players and win a GSTL and I cited players from a team that did exactly that.
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
and what is IM's A-team?
Losira...MVP......Nestea...the only *questionable A tearmer for IM that played today* was Yonghwa
So A-team only has 3 players and a questionable 4th player? lol? im sure 4 players is enough to win GSTL right?
Alicia Ryung and MMA say HI
Alicia Ryung and MMA say they're not in IM
So? Learn to read.
exactly which part do you want me to learn to read? the part where i asked who the A-team of IM is and you tell me 3 players thats not even in IM?
Last post on this subject. You asked if an A team can only consist of 4 players and win a GSTL and I cited players from a team that did exactly that.
Done.
SlayerS used more than 4 players in GSTL, so no SlayerS didnt do "exactly that." Nor was there only 4 players that showed up any of SlayerS series, so again whats your point?
YongHwa is definitely A-team. He is code S material, I have no idea how he keeps failing to qualify, but he's the most influential protoss in Korea. Half the stuff protoss from all over the world do today were based on his play. He was the only real A-team from IM that played tho, and I'm pretty sure he threw the last game.
very weird from dimaga, i think its actually possible he forgot to upgrade speed, it was done almost by 7min mark which is extremely late vs terran 2rax
On April 08 2011 03:02 ChiNo621 wrote: korean diehards "foreigners can never defeat koreans!"
team World almost beating IM "well they didn't try! and their two best players didn't play!"
keep making excuses. I can understand the one about nestea and MVP not playing but to try and say "I don't think the koreans are trying" is just pathetic
are you stupid? has anyone said they aren't trying? people are making excuses because foreigners can't even beat koreans NOT in the GSL
just look through this thread and there were at least a few posts about how "i dont think the koreans are really trying or taking this seriously".
I'm not saying non-koreans are better than korea, but they have made a lot of advances, so I don't like seeing people try to play it off when foreigners almost pick up some huge wins in showcase matches.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
and what is IM's A-team?
Losira...MVP......Nestea...the only *questionable A tearmer for IM that played today* was Yonghwa
So A-team only has 3 players and a questionable 4th player? lol? im sure 4 players is enough to win GSTL right?
Alicia Ryung and MMA say HI
Alicia Ryung and MMA say they're not in IM
So? Learn to read.
exactly which part do you want me to learn to read? the part where i asked who the A-team of IM is and you tell me 3 players thats not even in IM?
Last post on this subject. You asked if an A team can only consist of 4 players and win a GSTL and I cited players from a team that did exactly that.
Done.
SlayerS used more than 4 players in GSTL, so no SlayerS didnt do "exactly that." Nor was there only 4 players that showed up any of SlayerS series, so again whats your point?
Just because they didn't use only 3 players doesn't mean they didn't win because of them. MMA in particular was so important that if he was in another team, that team would've probably won.
When your team uses a total of 6 or 7 players, but 90% of your team's wins were by 3 of those players don't they constitute your A-Team?
On April 08 2011 02:53 nufcrulz wrote: dont think the foreigners are taking these showmatches seriously, they just want to give us the most entertaining matches possible .. its like the Korea World All star match, but inverted.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
these are also not the top foreigners.. obviously if they wanted to play seriously Sen etc couldve easily 8-0d most of these IM players..
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ARE YOU DUMB?
awesome argument there , doesnt really warrant any sort of response from me i guess.
gl with your blind korean fanboyism
Your blind claim that Sen would 8-0 IM sounds more like fanboyism than the claim that he simply could not all kill IM.
you making excuses? you think foreigners wouldn't want to show they could beat a korean team? this is only IM's b-team too rofl.
and what is IM's A-team?
Losira...MVP......Nestea...the only *questionable A tearmer for IM that played today* was Yonghwa
So A-team only has 3 players and a questionable 4th player? lol? im sure 4 players is enough to win GSTL right?
Alicia Ryung and MMA say HI
Alicia Ryung and MMA say they're not in IM
So? Learn to read.
exactly which part do you want me to learn to read? the part where i asked who the A-team of IM is and you tell me 3 players thats not even in IM?
Last post on this subject. You asked if an A team can only consist of 4 players and win a GSTL and I cited players from a team that did exactly that.
Done.
SlayerS used more than 4 players in GSTL, so no SlayerS didnt do "exactly that." Nor was there only 4 players that showed up any of SlayerS series, so again whats your point?
Because newb. Those 3 and Min won all the games for SlayerS. Nobody else on that team was even close. Now stop being doggedly stubborn and trying to argue that IM DIDN'T send out their B-team.
On April 08 2011 03:13 Rayansaki wrote: YongHwa is definitely A-team. He is code S material, I have no idea how he keeps failing to qualify, but he's the most influential protoss in Korea. Half the stuff protoss from all over the world do today were based on his play. He was the only real A-team from IM that played tho, and I'm pretty sure he threw the last game.
Yeah. YongHwa is insane as he demonstrated.. now if only he had A-moved at like 12 points in the game he would've won and I'm sure he knew that.
Don't want to take anything away from the foreigners though, they played well.
I don't know why people argue that Koreans aren't better - its obvious they are, does that translate to a 100% winrate? of course not.
I'm convinced its just a matter of time though until the foreign scene reaches the same level but Korea is always going to have a very high number of awesome players compared to other countries because of the head start they have had when it comes to esports.
On April 08 2011 03:18 legaton wrote: Weak, they lost even without IMMvP and Nestea
I think you are grossly underestimating the strength of IM's roster. The top 200 Koreans can all take games off of each other, and these guys on the World Team like Sen, DIMAGA, Ra, etc. are all world class players. It's just a testament to the parity in skill level in SC2 right now, as well as the volatility of the game.
I was predicting an easier win for IM though - thought that at least Losira (who's looking to be in top shape after the GSTL) would play.
even if dimaga won that last game, i feel IM won today with this lineup, like artosis said "we felt like we won though we lost because we only lost 7-8". and now without losira nestea and mvp IM still managed to win 8-7. we need artosis as our coach its weird its' been no happy seed or yonghwa in code a yet
thanks to all that made this happen! big shoutout to all the viewers that tuned in, you guys can look forward to more Korea based events like this one very soon.
Make a reality show already! I love the idea of being able to flip into the player's games but I think one of the real draws would be showing the actual players etc
On April 08 2011 03:25 Sami` wrote: I don't know why people argue that Koreans aren't better - its obvious they are, does that translate to a 100% winrate? of course not.
I'm convinced its just a matter of time though until the foreign scene reaches the same level but Korea is always going to have a very high number of awesome players compared to other countries because of the head start they have had when it comes to esports.
I don't see why it's obvious that "Koreans are better". That makes it sound like certain players are better because they're Korean. Korea has more top tier players than any other country for sure, but they aren't clearly much better than top tier players from other countries as far as I can tell. Keep in mind when people point out things like foreigners losing to Koreans who aren't code S/code A that even GSL champs are capable of losing to players who aren't code A (as evidenced by team league). All I've seen from the "world all stars" is good games and close series where it felt like anyone could potentially win, not a group of guys getting dazed and outclassed by a somehow superior race/culture/nationality/whatever.
I would agree that the GSL (which includes non-Koreans) is the highest level SC2 league in the world overall though. But I think a lot of players could do well in it that aren't willing to move to Korea.
On April 08 2011 04:24 Tanx911 wrote: Make a reality show already! I love the idea of being able to flip into the player's games but I think one of the real draws would be showing the actual players etc
Yeah, it's really cool to see them in a relaxed atmosphere like that. I mean there are already enough events that focus on the actual games, so this is nice for a change.
Korea has a better eSports infrastructure to consistently produce higher caliber players, they will always have more 'pros' pre-se until the West catches up in terms of training houses etc. That doesn't mean that foreigners can't compete with the Koreans long-term. With the right work ethic and practice partners/routine any player can succed. Jinro is a great example.
With the new big leagues (NASL, MLG, IGN, IEM, Dreamhack) and training houses (Root etc) growing in the West it can only get better.
Look for announcements regarding additional 'Clash of the Houses' Events as well as "After the Clash' online cash prize cups at the Cyber Sports Network website (Beta).
A huge thank you to all of those in Korea who either played or helped make this a reality. We realize that with such short notice, many of the viewers and fans were not able to be fully a part of the event. Unless TorcH has some other ideas up his sleeve, you can expect more notice for upcoming events from Cyber Sports Network.
Again.. Thank you all and please feel free to give suggestions on how we can improve this sort of event the next time!
John Clark Director of Operations Cyber Sports Network, Inc
On April 08 2011 04:39 integral wrote: This may have been asked before in this thread, but why are the foreigners still in korea? I expected them to have gone back home by now.
I think they stayed around for events like this one and probably Gom just booked the time in case one (or two!) of them was in the finals. Just a guess though.
On April 08 2011 04:39 integral wrote: This may have been asked before in this thread, but why are the foreigners still in korea? I expected them to have gone back home by now.
Maybe they have some kind of ceremony after the finals but I don't know.
On April 08 2011 04:39 integral wrote: This may have been asked before in this thread, but why are the foreigners still in korea? I expected them to have gone back home by now.
Well their return ticket home is probably scheduled for after the World Championship finals. Would be pretty tacky not to show up just because they lost early.
Losira...MVP......Nestea...the only *questionable A tearmer for IM that played today* was Yonghwa
So A-team only has 3 players and a questionable 4th player? lol? im sure 4 players is enough to win GSTL right?
Alicia Ryung and MMA say HI
Alicia Ryung and MMA say they're not in IM
So? Learn to read.
exactly which part do you want me to learn to read? the part where i asked who the A-team of IM is and you tell me 3 players thats not even in IM?
Last post on this subject. You asked if an A team can only consist of 4 players and win a GSTL and I cited players from a team that did exactly that.
Done.
SlayerS used more than 4 players in GSTL, so no SlayerS didnt do "exactly that." Nor was there only 4 players that showed up any of SlayerS series, so again whats your point?
Because newb. Those 3 and Min won all the games for SlayerS. Nobody else on that team was even close. Now stop being doggedly stubborn and trying to argue that IM DIDN'T send out their B-team.
doesnt matter, they showed up. that automatically meant SlayerS's A-team roster is more than 4 players
On April 08 2011 04:13 Deapht wrote: This event wasnt hyped up enough, only 45 pages in this thread? sounds to me not many people knew about it
Well unlike most big events this was on jtv so there was a chatroom. Everyone got all their 'omg look at that' and 'Kelly sucks'/'the people who say Kelly sucks are racist' comments there.
On April 08 2011 03:41 csn_andrew wrote: thanks to all that made this happen! big shoutout to all the viewers that tuned in, you guys can look forward to more Korea based events like this one very soon.
Losira...MVP......Nestea...the only *questionable A tearmer for IM that played today* was Yonghwa
So A-team only has 3 players and a questionable 4th player? lol? im sure 4 players is enough to win GSTL right?
Alicia Ryung and MMA say HI
Alicia Ryung and MMA say they're not in IM
So? Learn to read.
exactly which part do you want me to learn to read? the part where i asked who the A-team of IM is and you tell me 3 players thats not even in IM?
Last post on this subject. You asked if an A team can only consist of 4 players and win a GSTL and I cited players from a team that did exactly that.
Done.
SlayerS used more than 4 players in GSTL, so no SlayerS didnt do "exactly that." Nor was there only 4 players that showed up any of SlayerS series, so again whats your point?
Because newb. Those 3 and Min won all the games for SlayerS. Nobody else on that team was even close. Now stop being doggedly stubborn and trying to argue that IM DIDN'T send out their B-team.
doesnt matter, they showed up. that automatically meant SlayerS's A-team roster is more than 4 players
You probably should look at the players they use and their successes rather than the players that show up. There's a clear trend of which players certain teams use - only rarely do we see a new face go out, and that's just to get the player experience, usually when the team is already ahead. It can't be denied that SlayerS's run through the GSTL in terms of who got their team wins was pretty much done by MMA, Ryung, and Alicia, with a bit of help from Min.
On April 08 2011 04:41 csn_JohnClark wrote: Look for announcements regarding additional 'Clash of the Houses' Events as well as "After the Clash' online cash prize cups at the Cyber Sports Network website (Beta).
A huge thank you to all of those in Korea who either played or helped make this a reality. We realize that with such short notice, many of the viewers and fans were not able to be fully a part of the event. Unless TorcH has some other ideas up his sleeve, you can expect more notice for upcoming events from Cyber Sports Network.
Again.. Thank you all and please feel free to give suggestions on how we can improve this sort of event the next time!
John Clark Director of Operations Cyber Sports Network, Inc
Thank you very much for this event, it was great Only the stream faltered every now and then but other than that, it was truly enjoyable for the short time you had to prepare.
Also, I know this would take a lot more job/logistics and all, but if you could have a person (Rachel?/John?) in the other team house getting reactions and whatnot it'd be pretty sweet
On April 08 2011 03:02 ChiNo621 wrote: korean diehards "foreigners can never defeat koreans!"
team World almost beating IM "well they didn't try! and their two best players didn't play!"
keep making excuses. I can understand the one about nestea and MVP not playing but to try and say "I don't think the koreans are trying" is just pathetic
Why can't you accept that, if MVP, Nestea and Losira all weren't sent out?
On April 08 2011 02:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Ack i thought the first banshee was right above my marines when i stimmed, but i think theres some funky 3d terrain out over the water so he was actually almost out of range =[!
Keep up the good work in Korea Jinro and don't lose confidence in your play! We're all cheering you on and hoping for the best for you!
I think yonghwa was trying to get enough time to do that mothership mass recall into jinro's base, but he gave jinro way too long and eventually jinro widdled down his economy to the point where he didn't have a plan b afterwards.
I was really disappointed that IM didn't use any of their top "famous" players that I really wanted to see, especially NesTea and LosirA. Anyways, still an entertaining set of games thanks for posting and hosting the show match.
On April 08 2011 03:02 ChiNo621 wrote: korean diehards "foreigners can never defeat koreans!"
team World almost beating IM "well they didn't try! and their two best players didn't play!"
keep making excuses. I can understand the one about nestea and MVP not playing but to try and say "I don't think the koreans are trying" is just pathetic
Why can't you accept that, if MVP, Nestea and Losira all weren't sent out?
MVP and Nestea were sent out in the first team match. Didn't change the score.
On April 08 2011 14:49 HEROwithNOlegacy wrote: I was really disappointed that IM didn't use any of their top "famous" players that I really wanted to see, especially NesTea and LosirA. Anyways, still an entertaining set of games thanks for posting and hosting the show match.
On the other hand, the most famous on-stage players are often not the most successful in-house players.. I'd say players like Yoda and happy could probably be every bit as dangerous as losira or MVP.. oh and they didn't send losira at the end, because he would have faced dimaga in a ZvZ.
On April 08 2011 14:49 HEROwithNOlegacy wrote: I was really disappointed that IM didn't use any of their top "famous" players that I really wanted to see, especially NesTea and LosirA. Anyways, still an entertaining set of games thanks for posting and hosting the show match.
On the other hand, the most famous on-stage players are often not the most successful in-house players.. I'd say players like Yoda and happy could probably be every bit as dangerous as losira or MVP.. oh and they didn't send losira at the end, because he would have faced dimaga in a ZvZ.
I think that's not the point. It's a fun Showmatch, so why not let the more unknown players play to get some experience and show up in the world? I think that's the reason. If you watch Yoda for example: He ist good but it's silly to say he is as scary as Mvp or Losira. But your last point seems obvious because they didn't know dimaga until the GSL World's and in this short time he shows scary ZvZ - that's the only thing they know about him.^^
OK guys took a bit longer than I wanted it to, but the VODS are up! If you missed this event live, trust me you are going to want to watch every match! I provided the youtube and justin.tv links for every single set so if you have a personal preference you can enjoy it that way! They are located on the OP on 1st page of this post, just click the spoiler.
I will have the VODS up from the ST in house tourney up within a few days and we will be posting the IM in house tournament thread very soon as well which will be streamed on Sunday at 6 PM EST.
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