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[R&S] North American Starleague Season 1 - Page 7

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helvete
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden276 Posts
May 21 2011 01:03 GMT
#121
Could you please update the group play details in the OP? They're really nifty but haven't been updated in several weeks.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 21 2011 05:13 GMT
#122
On May 21 2011 10:03 helvete wrote:
Could you please update the group play details in the OP? They're really nifty but haven't been updated in several weeks.

Done!
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Kentakky
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1272 Posts
May 21 2011 06:31 GMT
#123
<3 Now NASL is actually starting to become a little exciting, so slow in the start with matches that feel like they don't matter but with so few matches left to play in each group it's getting pretty cool. Can't wait to see who'll make it to the live event, it's 16 players right?
My immune system is so strong that I have to get AIDS just to be normal.
helvete
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden276 Posts
May 22 2011 17:30 GMT
#124
On May 21 2011 14:13 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 10:03 helvete wrote:
Could you please update the group play details in the OP? They're really nifty but haven't been updated in several weeks.

Done!

Thanks motbob! Much appreciated!
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
May 23 2011 07:21 GMT
#125
sen! what a monster, only lost 3 games so far, 2 to boxer

Do yourself a favour and just STFU
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
May 24 2011 07:47 GMT
#126
I hope group stages are almost over.
here i am
Imascotsman
Profile Joined October 2010
255 Posts
May 24 2011 14:41 GMT
#127
This thread is so good! Thanks motbob. 3 more weeks left of group play, top 2 per group advance and the 3-5 players in each division compete for 5 spots. 16th spot is an open qualifier
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
May 25 2011 18:26 GMT
#128
Wow thanks for putting all this info together, especially love the summary results charts you made. This is incredibly helpful!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 21:24:20
May 26 2011 13:41 GMT
#129
Starting to get tense, now that the end of the group stages is drawing near!

What do Haypro, Moonan and Grubby have in common? Out of the ten people threatened to be thrown out of the NASL, those three are the only non-North Americans! Well, Moonan still has a good chance to slip past Cruncher (both same number of points), pushing that number down to 2, so I'm definitely going to root for him!

InControl is doing far better than I expected and somehow, I am more glad about the fact how ignorant I was than if I were right. :-)

edit: removing typos.
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
May 26 2011 14:38 GMT
#130
On May 26 2011 22:41 JustPassingBy wrote:
Starting to get tense, now that the end of the group stages are drawing near!

What do Haypro, Moonan and Grubby have in common? Out of the ten people threatened to be thrown out of the NASL, those three are the only non-North Americans! Well, Moonan still has a good chance to slip past Cruncher (both same number of points), pushing that number down to 2, so I'm definitely going to root for him!

InControl is doing far better than I expected and somehow, I am more glad about the fact how ignorant I was than if I were right. :-)


Yeah, I honestly didn't expect the North American players to be so awful in this, especially given they have the home server advantage, it seems from this and other tournaments like MLG/IPL like there's a huge skill gap between the top three guys (Idra, Kiwikaki and Select) and the rest of the server.

Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 21:42:34
May 26 2011 21:35 GMT
#131
Well, there isn't that much lag when Europeans play on the NA server, I think.
So the "home server advantage" isn't as big as one might think.

It's great how Boxer manages to place so high in his group, which does have plenty of goot players.
He even has a good shot at placing 2nd and get a seed into the finals.
The games he lost in the super tournament, he lost because of his own mistakes,
glad to see that he maybe just had a day off.

Btw. Moonan's chance of slipping past Cruncher is slimmer than I thought.
They have one future game against each other, but while Cruncher "only" has to face qxc and TT1,
Moonan stands before WhiteRa and JulyZerg...

edit: the Koreans on the other hand, are doing remarkably well.
All of them except Rainbow are currently in the top 6,
which roughly qualifies them for the bracket tournament for the finals
(it actually the top 30 of all players in 5 divisions).

TT1 is also still in the game and Fenix is ranked very high in his division,
maybe the good training in the team house is starting to pay off?
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 22:22:06
May 26 2011 22:14 GMT
#132
On May 26 2011 22:41 JustPassingBy wrote:
Starting to get tense, now that the end of the group stages is drawing near!

What do Haypro, Moonan and Grubby have in common? Out of the ten people threatened to be thrown out of the NASL, those three are the only non-North Americans! Well, Moonan still has a good chance to slip past Cruncher (both same number of points), pushing that number down to 2, so I'm definitely going to root for him!

InControl is doing far better than I expected and somehow, I am more glad about the fact how ignorant I was than if I were right. :-)

edit: removing typos.


Glad I am not the only one interested in crunching numbers on the NASL.

The bottom 16 players (by record, then scoring, finally head-to-head) are going to be kicked out of NASL next season. Based on my simulations, that essentially implies that all players with less than 4 wins, with exception for the highest scoring 3-win player.

So far...
  • Winless - (P)Grubby 0-7 (-11pt), (T)PainUser 0-6 (-10pt), (T)qxc 0-6 (-9pt)
  • 1 Win - (Z)CatZ (-5pt), (T)KawaiiRice (-6pt), (Z)HayprO (-6pt), (Z)Machine (-7pt), (P)Artosis (-10pt)
  • 2 Wins - (-2pt) (Z)MoMaN, (P)CrunCher, (Z)mOOnGLaDe; (-3pt) (T)Stalife, (P)Tyler, (P)MaNa; (-4pt) (T)GoOdy, (T)Drewbie; (-5pt) Cloud; (-6pt)(P)RainBOw.

To be the highest scoring 3-win, a player needs to be at least (-3pt) to survive relegation. That means these players are mathematically eliminated if they end up with a 3-6 record or worse: (P)Grubby, (T)PainUser, (Z)Machine, (P)Artosis, (P)MaNa, (T)GoOdy, (T)Drewbie, (T)ClouD, (P)RainBOw.

The interesting thing is that while a player like qxc is technically not eliminated, he needs to go 6-0 in his remaining schedule against (T)SjoW, (P)CrunCher, and (Z)DarKFoRcE, just to have a chance to survive for next season.
Thank God and gunrun.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 30 2011 11:13 GMT
#133
Nvm, I was talking bullshit.
I thought the bottom 2 of each division gets thrown out,
but in fact it's the bottom 16 in the overall standing.

Regarding overall standing, does anybody know when that will finally be updated on the nasl site?
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 30 2011 11:36 GMT
#134
Needs to be updated with 7-5 results. Great to see this updated, just in time as the placings are getting important now that we're in the tail-end of the season :-)
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 16:24:10
June 01 2011 16:23 GMT
#135
So the NASL site finally updated their overall standing: http://www.nasl.tv/Standings
For those who want are interested how each region is doing (too lazy to calculate for each nation):

NA: 9 out 18 are in the bottom 16 (50%)
Korea: 1 out of 11 are in the bottom 16 (9%)
SEA (more like rest of asia): 1 out of 2 (50%)
EU: 5 out of 19 are in the bottom 16 (26%)

So while NA and SEA would lose half of their players, Europe loses significantly less and Korea barely loses anyone. Everything is still in the open though, as there are plenty of people in the lower-middle field who have about the same number of points. There'll be significant fluctuation in the standing as players fight to stay in, in the final days of the division round! (due to where I live in, I'll root for the europeans though)

On a sidenote, I just realized how good Seth really is... O.o
I will definitely look forward to see him in the GSTL!
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
June 01 2011 23:58 GMT
#136
Rule of thumbs for the NASL format:
  • Players with less than 4 wins will not make the playoffs.
  • At most, only a single highest-scoring 3-win player will make the next season (at least -3pts).
  • Even with 4 wins, playoff is not guaranteed, so a player need to pick up several 1-2 sets to assure their chances.


Division 1, Week 8
About the five-way pillup for the top:
  • (Z)MorroW has the clearest path to victory.
  • (Z)Moon controls his own destiny.
  • (Z)Sheth, (P)KiWiKaKi, and (T)Fenix still have a chance for an automatic spot, but needs things to fall into place that are outside of their control, besides winning out.
  • (Z)ViBE can be a king-maker with an upset.

Regarding survival:
  • (P)Artosis and (P)Grubby are mathematically eliminated from the tournament and will be relegated. Nothing but pride now for both of them.
  • (Z)ViBE and (T)TLO both needs one more win, but ViBE has a much tougher schedule (Sheth, KiWiKaKi).
  • If (P)RainBOw drop a single map in the next two weeks, he's (most likely) out of the playoffs.
Thank God and gunrun.
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
June 03 2011 04:21 GMT
#137
Verrrrrrrrry, very even race distribution for the top 15 (top 3 of each division) as of 6/2: 6 Terran, 5 Zerg, 4 Protoss. Pleasing to see. Also, Morrow doing really well. I want him to go far, I need to steal his ZvP :D
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
June 03 2011 04:26 GMT
#138
On May 27 2011 06:35 JustPassingBy wrote:
Well, there isn't that much lag when Europeans play on the NA server, I think.
So the "home server advantage" isn't as big as one might think.

It's great how Boxer manages to place so high in his group, which does have plenty of goot players.
He even has a good shot at placing 2nd and get a seed into the finals.
The games he lost in the super tournament, he lost because of his own mistakes,
glad to see that he maybe just had a day off.

Btw. Moonan's chance of slipping past Cruncher is slimmer than I thought.
They have one future game against each other, but while Cruncher "only" has to face qxc and TT1,
Moonan stands before WhiteRa and JulyZerg...

edit: the Koreans on the other hand, are doing remarkably well.
All of them except Rainbow are currently in the top 6,
which roughly qualifies them for the bracket tournament for the finals
(it actually the top 30 of all players in 5 divisions).

TT1 is also still in the game and Fenix is ranked very high in his division,
maybe the good training in the team house is starting to pay off?


Moonan (Korean/American FXO Terran player) isn't playing in this tournament, yet. Are you referring to MoMan (Zerg french player for CN)?
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 12:25:31
June 03 2011 11:19 GMT
#139
Agh... yes, of course. I always mix those two up... <.<

edit: typo
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
June 07 2011 03:32 GMT
#140
I'm having trouble finding playoff format, can anyone guide me. Does the top 3 players qualify or something or how does it work?
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