Its called not letting your opponent mass up a 200/200 army. Even Idra has said as Zerg you can't go at them head on. He knows not to do it and still fucking does it.

were you not watching the same game as me?

he attacked 200/200 twice when cruncher was at like 140.

Durp

Canada3117 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1282

I also would not have given a GG. GG stands for Good Game, which that most definitely was not.

lettle

United States34 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1283

"we will not beat him up for this" (idra's no glhf)

RIIIIIIIIIIGHT

GeeseHoward

United States78 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1284

People are saying the LQ stream working, but it never loads. The HQ stream will load but it's laggy with my internet. Is Team Liquid providing other options then their official streams?

Ephriam

Netherlands74 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1285

day 9 is awesome!!

'idra seems to have a broken enter key in this game aswell as the last one'

sgblack

Finland95 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1286

On March 28 2011 03:36 zasda wrote:
infestors get buffed to deal better with protoss deathballs -> lets not use them herpaderpa?

These games were played before 1.3.

udgnim

United States8024 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1287

I'm still surprised that people cite Idra's macro as a reason why Idra should have won

Zerg macro doesn't mean anything if Protoss is allowed to build up a 200/200 death ball

MoonBear

Straight outta Johto18973 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1288

On March 28 2011 03:36 MoonBear wrote:
Match 2: GSL Terminus RE
[image loading]

EG.IdrA 0 vs 1 [image loading]

coL.Cruncher

Idra spawns as Red Zerg @3
Cruncher spawns as Blue Protoss @9

1:00
Idra with OL on 9, scouts north first. Cruncher with pylon on low ground and going with forge FE.

WingEn

84 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1289

300/200 food army got rolled by Collosus/VR composition with Protoss losing mostly only VRs and surviving with a ton of Stalkers and Collosus still standing.

I seriously didn't see how idra could win that game. He went head on with the opponent because he was maxed out already and could max out immediately after losing everything because of the crazy macro, which was what he did. And he still lost. Infestors from 1.3 may solve this heavy-armored problem army of Protoss though.

Still, idra totally won in macro. Imagine the frustration for him to ragequit even though his been trying to keep his manners in check since playing in the GSL :/

TheBB

Switzerland5133 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1290

On March 28 2011 03:37 keioh wrote:
So every day of TSL will have its own shitstorm, that's great !

1st day : Boxer and his disconnection.
2nd day : well i dunno lol, I couldn't watch the games nor the thread
3rd day : LAGALAGALAGALAGAL
4th day : idra plays as usual and the imbashow is up !

I wonder what will be the next shitstorm !

Day 2... banelings.

Erandorr

2283 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1291

On March 28 2011 03:34 Tachion wrote:

Show nested quote +

phoenix/colossus would prob be unbeatable vs Terran too if Terran didn't learn to focus fire the colossus. You can't target the void rays.

no in this case this is just wrong. Just try targetting the colossi in a few games and see what happens. Because the voidrays just rape the corrupors and after that you will nearly always have stalker voidray vs pure roach

AJMcSpiffy

United States1154 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1292

On March 28 2011 03:35 norlock wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 28 2011 03:34 Mabius wrote:
we all know idra lost this series, the fact that day 9 and dj wheat made a point to say that this isn't the new patch and that idra said he can win on both seems pretty defensive from their end. Also the fact that idra wrote last week after this game was presumably played that the justin tv invitational he played in was "more interesting" then day 1 of the tsl last week. Sucks to know results before they happen :/

Sucks to spoil us, Wtf.

Stop the damn conspiracy theories, the casters DO NOT KNOW THE RESULTS. DJWheat made sure to say it was pre 1.3 so that people wouldn't be confused by infestor changes. This tournament is run by people who are professional enough to make sure the results will not be spoiled.

Animostas

United States568 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1293

Hate the game, not the player.

I stopped doing the VR/Colossus because I do think that it's fairly abusive and very difficult to stop. Yeah I think Idra is the better player and should win, but honestly if I were in Cruncher's position I would have done the same thing. Why get into a straight up fight with one of the best Zergs in the world?

Kyuki

Sweden1867 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1294

Look, if you have like 80 drones and the ability to max out way before Toss (which you always will) you should instead just camp out and scout scout before you make your units. Just stack up on larvae and if you see the toss continue with VR/Colo, just make frigging 30 corrupter and let roach/ling flood the few gateway units there are.

With the later tech you can transition easily into BLs. Issue has always been zerg maxing out on shit compositions. T_T

nvs.

Canada3609 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1295

enjoy the games, ffs

That's why people are complaining though, it's hard to enjoy games like this. They aren't very exciting.

Justanx

United States240 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1296

Gotta love all these arm chair quarterbacks,,,,,

tsuxiit

1305 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1297

On March 28 2011 03:37 Slayth wrote:

Show nested quote +

Lol, thanks for the spoiler.

He tweeted that several days ago.

riboflavin

United States226 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1298

Idra had virtually 100 percent scouting and failed to react properly. If the VR/stalker/colo deathball is such an unbeatable play why dont we see every P do it in the GSL? Cause it isn't perfect and a good Z player knows how to prevent it and counter.

Idra had ZERO micro in the final battle and then remade lings. Yeah, really impressive decision making. If ur gonna lose ur army, get value for it (kill the colo). He threw it away in the least cost efficient manner. Cruncher keeps winning against good players and people still want to knock him. I just don't get it.

asdfjh

Canada230 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1299

On March 28 2011 03:36 Kfcnoob wrote:
wow. like 1.3 even did anything to fix this matchup.

Judging by the old observer UI, the game was played on the previous patch.

Xain

Canada94 Posts

March 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#1300

Idra just kept his army in one ball and kept attacking the front.... Off course a protoss army is more cost-efficient, why trying to break it? You have to attack multiple places as zerg... And why continue to make corrupters when the deathball is more voidray heavy? Idra has incredible macro but his strategy in this game was really bad, just so passive...