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Balance whining will result in a ban
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
March 27 2011 21:07 GMT
#5921
On March 28 2011 06:05 keioh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 06:01 Whitewing wrote:
To be honest, Mondragon's play wasn't that great that game, but it wasn't bad either. Seemed pretty solid.

It just looked impressive because Zeerax did not play well at all. Terrible unit control, donating units in weird ways (sacrified multiple colossus), lost that void ray by letting a queen drag it into range of a spore crawler, etc. He floated a lot of minerals and just had no ground force.


What was great from Mondragon was the way he get back in the game so absurdly fast. Zeerax seemed completely caught off-guard. I'm sure he thought "oh these roach up there are all his stuff... well, he tried to attack down there too... wait wat ? wait how do I split correctly... fack, I lost 2 collosi... better get... wait there are way too many roach, how the fuck did this happened ???"


That's just because Zeerax had 1500 minerals in the bank, no gateways and no gateway units. If he had actually macrod a bit he would have had stalkers/zealots to buffer for the collosus and he wouldnt have lost 2 collosus to 6 roach. It's easy to look good when your opponent doesnt build units.

Not saying Mondi isn't very good, but that game wasn't a good test
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
March 27 2011 21:07 GMT
#5922
On March 28 2011 06:06 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 06:05 Dawn11 wrote:
wtf mondragon with the cheesy 3 zerglings - wall - bust...


cheesy?

...


Your sarcasm detector is broken.
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
March 27 2011 21:07 GMT
#5923
On March 28 2011 06:06 ToasteR_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 06:05 Piski wrote:
On March 28 2011 06:04 oGm`REM wrote:
djWHEAT spoiling it and trying to recover by saying "Well, Ze-Ze-ZeeRaX can still come back though."

Classic ^^;


They are casting LIVE from replays. They do not know the end result :o


They could see if the set only goes to 2 games though, so after game 1 they could know.


...or the TL admins could have sent three games and one of them being a fake...
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
March 27 2011 21:07 GMT
#5924
4 queens out for Mondragon on 2 base. Should be sufficient anti air vs the one phoenix and void ray. Plus, who doesn't love some creep spread.

Third base for Mondi going up.
Always smile~
Psycosquirrel
Profile Joined October 2008
United States161 Posts
March 27 2011 21:07 GMT
#5925
I would lobe to see a burrowed roach bust from Mondi here. I dont think Zeerax would have a chance of stopping it, since he is so focused on getting colossus.
sgblack
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland95 Posts
March 27 2011 21:07 GMT
#5926
Zeerax is terrible amazing he qualified for this.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
March 27 2011 21:07 GMT
#5927
On March 28 2011 06:06 ToasteR_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 06:05 Piski wrote:
On March 28 2011 06:04 oGm`REM wrote:
djWHEAT spoiling it and trying to recover by saying "Well, Ze-Ze-ZeeRaX can still come back though."

Classic ^^;


They are casting LIVE from replays. They do not know the end result :o


They could see if the set only goes to 2 games though, so after game 1 they could know.

I'm sure the admins prepared 3 replay files just to avoid spoilers.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
March 27 2011 21:07 GMT
#5928
stream down for anyone else?
I have no quote!
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
March 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#5929
On March 28 2011 06:06 ToasteR_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 06:05 Piski wrote:
On March 28 2011 06:04 oGm`REM wrote:
djWHEAT spoiling it and trying to recover by saying "Well, Ze-Ze-ZeeRaX can still come back though."

Classic ^^;


They are casting LIVE from replays. They do not know the end result :o


They could see if the set only goes to 2 games though, so after game 1 they could know.

I believe there are 3 replays, if it is 2-0, then there is an added blank one.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
March 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#5930
Did he seriously lift a drone just to delay the third?
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
March 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#5931
what is zeerax doing with this phoenix and voidray >_>
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#5932
On March 28 2011 06:06 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 06:05 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 06:03 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 06:01 MoonBear wrote:
Match 2: Shakuras Plateau (Crossmap Spawns Only)
[image loading] (Z)MYM.Mondragon 1 vs 0
[image loading]
(P)ZeeRaX

Mondragon spawns as Red Zerg @7
Zeerax spawns as Blue Protoss @1

1:20
Day9 seems to have been dropped from Voice-over. Zeeerax queueing probes and using chrono on probes. Zeerax with gate-gas. Mondragon with hatch first.

Probe and drone dance at the zerg natural. Pool and gas done for Mondragon instead. Core in the wall instead of forge FE. Second gas for Zeerax.

3:50
Mondragon finally takes nat.

5:20
Mondragon picks off a pylon. Zeerax supplyblocked. Has Stargate. Has to remake pylon. Does not have nat. 2 lings run in probes forced to go off and kill them.

Zeerax takes nat after lings die. Air units will be delayed from supply block.

7:20
Phoenix pokes the nat but flies away without killing anything. Robo and double gas at the natural coming up. Voidray making. Mondragon getting a roach den.

9:15
Mondragon takes a 3rd 9, two queens almost pick off a phoenix and voidray. Mondragon droning hard.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
oGm`REM
Profile Joined March 2011
United States870 Posts
March 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#5933
ZeeRaX? -_- focus, buddy! focus.
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
March 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#5934
Zeerax seems quite nervous

And the casters really, truly have no idea.
Moderator
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
March 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#5935
Void fly's over the 2 queens lol, almost died.
I <3 Plexa.
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
March 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#5936
On March 28 2011 06:06 Lennon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 06:03 silentsaint wrote:
On March 28 2011 06:01 Lennon wrote:
If ZeeRaX actually built gateway units, Mondragon wouldn't have won that easily.


If ZeeRaX did that Mondragon would have done something else. He did what he did as an reaction to the Voidray Phoenix Attack from ZeeRaX.


Nope.
VR/Gateway units counter Roach pushes so Mondragon wouldn't have pushed. Like I said before, ZeeRaX wouldn't have got rolled if he'd made gateway units as opposed to Collossi tech.


why would or should zeerax do gateway units against expected mass hydra? ......
Bergkamp ftw!
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
March 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#5937
Notice Mondragon building and researching so much shit :p
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
March 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#5938
there's a lot of roaches coming
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
March 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#5939
I feel that he couldve killed that void if he focused it properly
ChiknAdobo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States208 Posts
March 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#5940
Anyone else see how bad zeerax is? One base stargate is so gimmicky if he doesn't do damage he is so behind and if he does he might just come out even. I love it when a protoss goes one base stargate all you need is queens and some spores then you just crush them with roaches.
ZERg
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