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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
On March 27 2011 04:07 Darneck wrote: MVP did NOT lose his marine due to lag, he wasn't looking at it. The marine didn't even try to run away or anything even after he was surrounded, he never issued the order for the marine to retreat. People don'T get that, they just want to hate. | ||
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
That doesn't happen, ever. Those that say lag played no issue, to both or neither, is ridiculously uninformed. Not to mention as a protoss player Terran obviously requires much more battle micro. I loved Adelscott's play, but watching that game I would never, EVER take Adelscott's style into a lagless game- let alone against a better player. | ||
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Numerical
Finland37 Posts
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Mawi
Sweden4365 Posts
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kratos-23
303 Posts
On March 27 2011 04:06 Aelfric wrote: Yeah from now on it seems like whenever korean lose it'll be cuz of lag... Seriously sorry guys but mvp played really bad. hey played bad cuz of lag. | ||
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hitman133
United States1425 Posts
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Apollonius
70 Posts
1) MvP's unit combination was just not sufficient. 2) for some of game 2 and almost all of game 1, Adelscott was at a MACRO advantage 3) just because Adelscott is used to the lag from EU-NA does not mean that it is unfair for MvP: Adel just took time to play on lag settings for practice, and if MvP did the same, he would be fine too. I can't make a statement about comparing lag from EU>NA and KR>NA, though, but guys: If a foreigner loses, you attribute it to Korean skill If a foreigner wins, you attribute it to lag. While this may or may not be the case, you are being a little bland in your judgment. So many other factors affect game strength, such as sleepiness, fatigue, focus, unit composition, etc. To give the foreigners no credit for a unique unit comp or thought process or to downplay the koreans for MAKING MISTAKES, as any human is prone to do, is simply unfair. | ||
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VAGZ
574 Posts
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PHC
United States472 Posts
On March 26 2011 12:08 DdoRo wrote: ok, I talked to both koreans and european players about the lag issue. there is almost no lag for EU players playing on the NA server, but Koreans actually have alot more latency than it seems they have. two days ago, I tried to play with my korean friend on the NA server for 2s. he was complainin alot about lag, he's forcefield went down like 1.5sec after he actually put it down Also, in oGsMC's interview for TSL, he mentioned he went for colossi+void ray just to 1a, because he couldn't micro vs Ciara. Also, boxer and his gf mentioned about lag. On March 26 2011 12:22 FXOpen wrote: Guys you are talking about delay in seconds.... Let me put it into perspective. When I was in Korea, ping to NA was 310-410 ms. Accordingly to someone close to me in korea, since the japan earthquake its now almost double that. I dont know what the seconds delay or whatever would be... I guess it would depend. But i'd say it effects those micro based players. With that said, every player knew what they were getting into. What sucks is that it delegitimizes TSL3. However, I am looking forward to the finals since both finalists will be flown over to New York where latency is not an excuse. | ||
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AimForTheBushes
United States1760 Posts
On March 27 2011 04:06 VarpuliS wrote: no, IdrA is. check the celebrity look alike thread. IdrA had really long hair at one point, and he looked a lot like Lennon. when he was younger, Idra looked exactly like Harry Potter.. | ||
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
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Omnipresent
United States871 Posts
On March 27 2011 04:04 CTStalker wrote: the lag wasn't what decided that game. adelscott played really well, mvp made terrible decisions. decision making lost mvp the game This. I don't care how bad the lag is, you can't do a half assed response to a 15 nexus. You have to either expand immediately or go all in and crush it. You can't simply pressure a bit and take a late expand. MVP also remained way too aggressive after regaining the lead in the second game, throwing away a ton of units all over the map (especially in AdelScott's main). | ||
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Kazzabiss
1006 Posts
On March 27 2011 04:06 Scila wrote: Lag from eu to us is way smaller...its something like 170 ping versus Mvp probably sitting at like 300. That + Terran requires way more micro that Toss so it was favored to Adel on that as well. This | ||
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Redmo
Switzerland14 Posts
Open your eyes people...... | ||
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xmichaels
84 Posts
GSL world championship starts tmw, please all tune in to watch foreigners get stomped in a REAL tournament | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
On March 27 2011 04:01 HowSoOnIsNow wrote: This game is ridiculous. Seriously. Adelscott with the worst macro and wins.It's fucking ridiculous. Uhhhhh, how is his macro bad? His money stays low and he gets ahead economically of Mvp...... | ||
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3772
Czech Republic434 Posts
On March 27 2011 04:07 Kommander wrote: If MVP lost because of lag, how come MC had an easy time against Ciara? If lag was a factor then MC surely would've lost. If I remember correctly, in game 2, MC still had impeccable force field placement despite the "lag" that people are complaining about. Exactly. But haters gon' hate I guess. Very impressive by Adel. | ||
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Audies
United States6 Posts
On March 27 2011 04:02 B00ts wrote: The lag excuses are funny... I doubt that KR players lag that much more on NA then EU players do.... it wasn't lag imo. I dont think of it as an excuse, I just want to know how much of an impact it has. An even playing field is good for the game. | ||
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coldonthecob
47 Posts
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Hunterai
Thailand842 Posts
So needless to say that my bracket is all shot to pieces T_T | ||
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