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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied.

Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
March 26 2011 15:10 GMT
#1341
On March 27 2011 00:08 papaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 19:14 AimForTheBushes wrote:
** At no point did the NASL, or anyone for that matter, ever say that the league was only going to be open the 50 best players in the world.

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50 of the world's best players.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
March 26 2011 15:12 GMT
#1342
On March 27 2011 00:10 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 00:08 papaz wrote:
On March 26 2011 19:14 AimForTheBushes wrote:
** At no point did the NASL, or anyone for that matter, ever say that the league was only going to be open the 50 best players in the world.

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50 of the world's best players.


haha. Great call, now everyone can have personal opinions on who is the best without actually having to back it up more than "well, I think my brother is the best. He should be in."

Forget results in big tournaments, who do you think is best?!
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 15:14:55
March 26 2011 15:14 GMT
#1343
I can't believe how hung up people are on a single sentance. I can find similar official statements from all big sports leagues or tournaments that if you dissect it are not really true. It's a freaking pr statement, get over it.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 15:19:27
March 26 2011 15:18 GMT
#1344
On March 27 2011 00:14 nam nam wrote:
It's a freaking pr statement


Can't argue against this.

NASL at the moment is nothing but pr, hopes and dreams.

I think we all just need to make them do their invitiational tourney, do the "connecting on a personal level with the players" and just give them a chance. The purpose with the whole league will be much clearer after 1-2 seasons.

If the skill difference is too big with the best players and the ones "we are connected on a personal level" I think NASL will slightly change their format on who participates.

Until then, we should take this tourney for what it is. A great, badass invitiational with huge prize money.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
March 26 2011 15:19 GMT
#1345
On March 27 2011 00:12 papaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 00:10 FliedLice wrote:
On March 27 2011 00:08 papaz wrote:
On March 26 2011 19:14 AimForTheBushes wrote:
** At no point did the NASL, or anyone for that matter, ever say that the league was only going to be open the 50 best players in the world.

[image loading]



50 of the world's best players.


haha. Great call, now everyone can have personal opinions on who is the best without actually having to back it up more than "well, I think my brother is the best. He should be in."

Forget results in big tournaments, who do you think is best?!


I think all of the players in invited are among the best.
And that's all we can ask for.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
March 26 2011 15:21 GMT
#1346
Dimaga, Morrow and Ret has to be in this!
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 16:16:22
March 26 2011 15:56 GMT
#1347
Did anyone mention Catz' application was pretty much ballllllllor?
''Hey, my name is Paolo, I am from Peru. Beautiful country.''

''I can say without hessitation... That I am the CatZ of Zerg. I am absolutely sure, without a doubt, that I am the CatZ of Zerg. If that is not enough, I should be in the NASL because I am a great player. Oh, and I have slept in the same bed as Day9.

''I take strategy way too serious. I wouldn't even mention my biggest rival on my interview.''

''He was like... My rival is like IMMvP or something. Oh, sorry if I spoiled that. But yeah, then I beat him at the king of the hill.''

Tyler's pretty cool, too.
currently rooting for myself.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
March 26 2011 16:24 GMT
#1348
On March 26 2011 20:39 Get.Midikem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 08:43 Lonyo wrote:
On March 26 2011 08:42 Bobster wrote:
Looking at the list, I could easily name more than 20 from those unpicked I'd like to see in the league.


The tears will be epic when [your favourite player] doesn't make the cut.

That's OK, there are more than 20 spots for players still unannounced


No its not its "only" 20 spots left. And its players like these left out there:
Dimaga
Goody
Nightend
Moonglade
Incontrol
Morrow
Thorzain
Lalush
Sase
Ret
Squirtle
Fruitdealer
Top
July
MC
Nada
Supernova
Bomber
Boxer
Trickster
Demuslim
Bishu
Optikzero
Minigun
dde
Drewbie
Mondragon
Merz
Painuser
LZGamer
Inca
Lyn
Clide
Ensnare
Rainbow
Cazanne
Cella


but i would argue alot of them dont deserve to be in either just proving the point that whichever 50 they choose they cant please everyone
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 26 2011 16:25 GMT
#1349
On March 27 2011 00:56 Shiv. wrote:
Did anyone mention Catz' application was pretty much ballllllllor?
''Hey, my name is Paolo, I am from Peru. Beautiful country.''

''I can say without hessitation... That I am the CatZ of Zerg. I am absolutely sure, without a doubt, that I am the CatZ of Zerg. If that is not enough, I should be in the NASL because I am a great player. Oh, and I have slept in the same bed as Day9.

''I take strategy way too serious. I wouldn't even mention my biggest rival on my interview.''

''He was like... My rival is like IMMvP or something. Oh, sorry if I spoiled that. But yeah, then I beat him at the king of the hill.''

Tyler's pretty cool, too.


Yeah but wasn't the interview section just a small part of who actually get's accepted?
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
March 26 2011 16:29 GMT
#1350
Id be pissed if Artosis had got chosen over my application...Slap in the face for people who actually did something in sc2 tournament play.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
KillemallCFH
Profile Joined December 2010
United States45 Posts
March 26 2011 16:47 GMT
#1351
On March 27 2011 01:29 Holcan wrote:
Id be pissed if Artosis had got chosen over my application...Slap in the face for people who actually did something in sc2 tournament play.
Whatever. My interest in NASL just rose tenfold because Artosis is going to be in it. As much as some of you might hate to admit it, including fan favorites will only help NASL's chances of being successful.
"A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." - Mitch Hedburg || "oh my god feel bad but now drink melon juice haha" - NaDa
ExquisiteRed
Profile Joined February 2011
396 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 16:54:55
March 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#1352
People are taking the whole "50 best players in the world" thing too literally, its just a marketing trick that every sports league in the world uses, if they really meant it they would have just invited 45 koreans and the 5 best foreigners. Stop trying to use this in your arguments like its some sort of unbreakable vow that they were absolutely set on inviting the 50 best players because thats just unerasonable---they're just trying to sell a product, plain and simple.

Just look at the player pool right now, its awesome, quit bitching about it.
ChThoniC
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States536 Posts
March 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#1353
Are people actually angry about Artosis when there are objectively worse players in alongside him?
i c u
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
March 26 2011 16:54 GMT
#1354
On March 27 2011 01:47 KillemallCFH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 01:29 Holcan wrote:
Id be pissed if Artosis had got chosen over my application...Slap in the face for people who actually did something in sc2 tournament play.
Whatever. My interest in NASL just rose tenfold because Artosis is going to be in it. As much as some of you might hate to admit it, including fan favorites will only help NASL's chances of being successful.


How can other people develop a fanbase if the same group of friends keep inviting the same people to the tournaments? If they continue to degrade the scene by squelching up and coming talent replacing it with players of yesterday even though there are obvious better players than Artosis in the world, then they will be eliminating the driving force to starcraft 2's popularity. The ability for anyone to become a good player given the right dedication. All this shows is that its better to have kimchi with incontrol if you've applied for the NASL, because if you have then you're good to go.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 17:00:43
March 26 2011 17:00 GMT
#1355
With the announcement of the announcement of the announcement and then finally the showmatch and then the announcement and then the announcement that they will announce 5 players a day to fill the brackets and then the endless debate over each of the 5 names has almost got me sick of NASL before it has even started.

I guess there is a thing as TOO much marketing / PR if it becomes over saturated. Not trying to be too negative and I will still be watching most of the league, but my anticipation has kind of turned into a wow lets just get the players announced and move on.
Riraga
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany13 Posts
March 26 2011 17:02 GMT
#1356
ViBe
MoMan
Moonglade
Stalife
Drewbie
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 17:03:39
March 26 2011 17:03 GMT
#1357
Vibe
Moman
Moonglade
Stalife
Drewbie

Groud 5 continues its legacy.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
March 26 2011 17:03 GMT
#1358
How can other people develop a fanbase if the same group of friends keep inviting the same people to the tournaments?


How can you take one invite and apply that to "the same group of friends and the same people." There are people from all over the world and from tons of different teams. -.-

If you were to start a league, you would have recognizable names in it to build its popularity, you're not going to eliminate the "driving force of SC2's popularity" by having one of the most recognizable player (Artosis, due to his GSL casting) in it.

I would argue that by including only raw, unknown talent, you would actually hurt the league, not help it, because interest would be much lower. Do you think 2 good but unknown players are going to draw 50K+ live viewers? NO.
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
March 26 2011 17:06 GMT
#1359
moonglade and drewbie ok but stalife moman and vibe? srsly?
Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
March 26 2011 17:08 GMT
#1360
On March 26 2011 18:04 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
Can you even name 50 top players?


wat

There have been a ton of lists and speculations that go beyond 50 players.

I know people on any forum like to take things extremely literally, but my point was that, basically, there are so many people getting invited that the lines for "best" start to fade and meld. The very top has some clear skill divisions, but those quickly get closer in an environment where it's never truly certain who is most likely to win.

And I guarantee you that most people aren't thinking of over 50 players when they think about who they want in the NASL. We're on TL, which makes it more likely for us, but, even here, I'd say that most people probably have a favorite team or two and are well aware of most of the endeavors of around 25 players while having more basic knowledge for others. The idea is that, especially with the scene so young, most people can't give a definitive list of 50 players.

On March 26 2011 19:35 CanucksJC wrote:
I would actually watch this just to watch Artosis. That is all.

/agree There is absolutely no way that I'll miss those games.
"If you can chill, chill." -Liquid`Tyler "Special tactics." -White-Ra
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