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UPDATE:WE ASKED STEVEN IF HE WANTED A REMATCH, HE SAID NO.
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Hi Everyone, I'm Chris Evans from Envy Gaming. We are a small community that is committed to bringing events like this to the public and helping out E-Sports. This event will launch our site and hopefully be the start of a sweet community.
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When
This event will be LIVE on April 8th at 8:30 PM EST
Where
You will be able to view all of this on my stream at: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Bonkerz
Casters
This event will be casted by:
ForceStrategy (youtube channel) : http://www.youtube.com/user/ForceSC2strategy
and
Thundertoss
Players
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Z ROOTDestiny
T NOVAstalife
Z MoMan
P Azz
T tQSadist
P FXOpTiKzErO
T vileHasHe
T EGLzGaMeR
Bracket
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Prize
The winner takes home 50$
Format
All games will be casted.
This is an 8 man tournament. All rounds will be best of 3 and the finals will be an epic best of 5.
Maps
1st Round BO3:
MLG Shakura Plateau
Terminus RE
MLG Shattered Temple
2nd Round BO3:
MLG Metalopolis
MLG iCCup Testbug
GSL Taldarim Altar
Finals BO5:
Map pool includes all MLG maps +Terminus RE, and Taldarim Altar.
First map will be veto, all remaining games will be losers choice.
Please post your comments and thoughts below!!!
Thanks, Chris Evans AKA Bonkerz
P.S We ask all players with streams to turn them off during tournament time to help out our sponsor.
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Lets go Sadist and Optik ^^
I got my eye on you Lz keke keke keke
Good luck to the players!
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looking forward to this, i think sadist will win ;D
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OMG OMG HASHE!!!!!!!!
hoping for some epic games!!
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Should be pretty epic 
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On March 21 2011 13:14 Warrice wrote:
Sadist fighting!!
Gogogo Sadist
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Looks amazing. I'll be rooting for Optik
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Very nice set up bonkers! i will be Rooting for MoMan for sure!!!
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Gotta admit I'll be rooting for my boy, Destiny!!
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hmmm my best wishes to him :D he is a good player for sure
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gogo stalife fighting! hes a beast
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On March 23 2011 07:46 RyanRushia wrote:
gogo stalife fighting! hes a beast
They are all amazing :-)
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Sweet! can't wait, I'm for Destiny!
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Wow this is a good list! Any predictions on who will win anyone?
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Wow easy win for stalife LOL 
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@Antimage no way stalife takes it down IMO
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Whoever uses the most creative strats will win, I wanna see NUKES! I wanna see NYDUS'S! and I wanna see ARCHON's
^^ Those would make for epic matches :-)
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On March 21 2011 13:15 tQFighting wrote:
looking forward to this, i think sadist will win ;D
Agreed, tQ fighting!!
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UPDATE* we will try and get interviews with our two finalists.
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LZ OR DESTINY FTWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!
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UPDATE Azz is now Competing in VTattero's place.
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On March 25 2011 14:21 CricketSC2 wrote:
I'll catch the end :D
I wish you could have made the whole thing Crick
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HasHe fighting!
good luck man.
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Cant wait for this, should be epic .
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Cant wait for this, should be epic .
You know it will be
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On March 27 2011 03:00 CrAzzYHP wrote: You know it will be
Hmm yeh i expect many crazy games!
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Bonkerz is it correct that there has been a change in one of the player? inform good friend.
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On March 27 2011 21:29 CrAzzYHP wrote:
Bonkerz is it correct that there has been a change in one of the player? inform good friend.
Yes Azz is filling in for VTattero who, sadly cant attend.
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On March 24 2011 11:18 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2011 13:15 tQFighting wrote:
looking forward to this, i think sadist will win ;D Agreed, tQ fighting!!
QFT
GO tQ
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i think TQ will destroy :D i bet!!
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Looks like a great event, but if I'm not mistaken April 8th is when NASL starts @ 5:00 PST I believe so I don't know how many viewers you will get if the schedules will conflict. I hope if this is the case you guys would be able to reschedule to a later time or different date. Looks like an entertaining event though!
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Oh crap ill have to talk to bonkerz about that
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On March 30 2011 22:19 HEROwithNOlegacy wrote:
Looks like a great event, but if I'm not mistaken April 8th is when NASL starts @ 5:00 PST I believe so I don't know how many viewers you will get if the schedules will conflict. I hope if this is the case you guys would be able to reschedule to a later time or different date. Looks like an entertaining event though!
I just contacted iNcontrol and he said firsts match is monday the 11th, Thanks for your concern!
Additionally make sure you are leaving your feedback on who you think will win!
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Looks like a pretty solid lineup. I am not a great player myself, but I predict NOVAStalife will take it
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On April 03 2011 00:03 Fletcher1 wrote:
Looks like a pretty solid lineup. I am not a great player myself, but I predict NOVAStalife will take it
Thanks, we work hard to get the people that we do!
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bonkerz1 told me too watch this because of the epic lineup !
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The day is quickly approaching. Hope to see as many people on the stream as we can. Should make for some amazing games. and you might just win 50 bucks. I'm pulling for MoMan btw. FOR THE SWARM!!!
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On April 04 2011 10:31 Sadist wrote:
Where are the brackets?
We are working on it sorry, should be out soon.
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All brackets and map pools are posted.
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Nice match-ups. Are several matchs gonna be casted at the the same time or are u gonna go through each of them on the same stream?
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On April 05 2011 04:38 cainine wrote:
Nice match-ups. Are several matchs gonna be casted at the the same time or are u gonna go through each of them on the same stream?
Every game will be casted.
EDIT Sorry, yes only one stream not more than one.
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Hey Bonkerz when are the streams going to go live for the tourney?
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The stream should go live roughly 15-30 minutes before tourney time. Hope to see everyone out there!!
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gogo Moman -- I need reassurance that a Zerg can win a tournament.
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On March 23 2011 07:46 RyanRushia wrote:
gogo stalife fighting! hes a beast
Gotta agree stalifes my favourite to win! coL Hwaiting! :D
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On April 08 2011 04:05 ProfessionalTryHard wrote:
gogo Moman -- I need reassurance that a Zerg can win a tournament.
I think with infestors the way they are we will see some more zergs raping face!
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I'm really excited to see this! this is a great way to start off the website and its always great seeing pro's doing what they do best. So I've only seen Destiny's play so it'll be great to see some more pro's at work ^.^
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On March 23 2011 22:41 Antimage wrote:Wow easy win for stalife LOL
Do you ever feel dissapointed when he loses? I see you post that for every tournament he is in...
tQSadist, ez win.
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Its going to be a great match-up with out a doubt. I think that with the current meta-game Protoss has a good chance at taking the victory, but you can never know I feel for Destiny being the only Zerg though.
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On April 08 2011 23:10 CrAzzYmr.BC wrote:Its going to be a great match-up with out a doubt. I think that with the current meta-game Protoss has a good chance at taking the victory, but you can never know I feel for Destiny being the only Zerg though.
moman...
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Wow i completely missed that. Alright go them!
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Good to see love for the old schoolers, tQSadist ftw.
Unless of course rS.Wizard[9] comes out of retirement, he is Sadist's kryptonite.
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Is that from the broodwar days?
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On April 08 2011 23:55 CrAzzYmr.BC wrote:
Is that from the broodwar days?
Yes sir!
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Man back in the day i played red alert and age of empires. i really regret not knowing about brood war or the scene! how big is tQSadist nowadays?
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On April 09 2011 00:07 CrAzzYmr.BC wrote:Man back in the day i played red alert and age of empires. i really regret not knowing about brood war or the scene! how big is tQSadist nowadays?
He's good, maybe not as known as some other people, but hes good.
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All players in tournament were roughly 4K masters before ladder reset, so it will most definitely be a great tourney. Hope to see everyone there!!
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t.t senior design project is owning me so i wont be able to make it. I just got out of a meeting and wont be able tomake it back in time. Hopefully a short notice replacement can be found. Sorry I really apologize, my groupmates are fucking retarded. T.t.
PS thanks for the invite I really appreciated. Sorry to disappoint.
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Some pretty fun nukes. Good play by Hashe, though I think he should have multi-nuked.
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Spanishiwa's going to be in it! This should be fun to watch.
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No complaints on the players, but not being able to change the quality of the stream makes it impossible to watch on my computer
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Don't shut down other peoples streams so you can take viewers
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What's the update on the other matches?
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Bad.
This tournament seems to have caused a lot of uproar.
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While Hashe had an advantage you had no right calling the series in favour of Hashe when HE was the one that disconnected. The game was not over yet. Very unprofessional and I won't be watching anymore or any other tournaments you do.
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God, stream's chat is making me sad.
Fans (who act like brainless zombies) are giving me really hard time to like this Destiny guy. I don't even understand how he became so popular. I've been on his stream few times, he usually acted like a douche and as far as I watched him he was terribly losing most of games.
Also checked his Liquipedia page which says Achievements: 0... I am confused. :/
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Horribly run tournament... how can u call someone who disconnects the winner when the food was even and if Destiny A-moved his base he would have won.
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gotta love it, destiny was down by 20 supply, with superior upgrades and unit comp, and they call the game, oh well guess they just don't wanna succeed, if they wanna run a tourny and have integrity they can't beg to make someone to turn there stream off, and than screw him over. It just shows that they are snakes just doing it to get viewers, makes me sick, that you force someone who makes his living off streaming to turn it off and make less money, and than screw him over. I guess you just have very little integrity. I don't know who to blame because I don't know who made the decision but whoever did should be ashamed of themselves
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Hey, I heard getting a lead then dc'ing is a good way to ensure wins in tournys
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uhm.. im not a huge destiny fan (in fact i think hes overrated..)
but watching that game it wasnt over, both sides had a maxed army and it couldn't have been 100% called. Do your research imo before saying its all fan boys, it seems like a legitimate complaint because of a) two faced calls and b) there is precidence that there SHOULD be a rematch so.. i can understand all the complaints in the chat
so no not everyone with that view is a brainless zombie thanks.
also LUL i will get a slight advantage and DC for wins now in tourneys good precidence.
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Terribly ran tournament, i will not be tuning in again unless the RE it.
Hashe had an advantage but we've all seen players come back from bigger deficits.
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HASHE FIGHTING! What game is being stream next?
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On April 09 2011 11:23 Leego08 wrote:
Hey, I heard getting a lead then dc'ing is a good way to ensure wins in tournys
Yup, it is going to be the new thing....err wait a second most tourneys would have a lot more integrity than this one, so only try it in ones hosted by Thundertoss and Bonkerz
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So Hashe is 1 mining base ahead, on the same supply with worse upgrades and DC's and they call the win in his favour? I'll remember to just build a bunch of orbitals the next time i'm in a tournament and DC because it seems to give you free wins.
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Pretty disappointed in the organisation here. The reason a BO3 took 90 mins is because there's a 15 min "break" for the organisers between each game leaving viewers staring at a (wrong) bracket image while they wait.
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destiny could have reinforced better and won since he still had a ton of money....
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On April 09 2011 11:25 Highcounsel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 11:23 Leego08 wrote:
Hey, I heard getting a lead then dc'ing is a good way to ensure wins in tournys Yup, it is going to be the new thing....err wait a second most tourneys would have a lot more integrity than this one, so only try it in ones hosted by Thundertoss and Bonkerz
dont get mad at thunderbro
the other guy thoooooo
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Destiny DC's -> HasHe wins
HasHe DC's -> HasHe wins
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Hashe was ahead but Destiny was pretty much maxed with 1k+ in the bank, can't really call a game in that situation. It's similar to the Dimaga vs MvP game in the WC, regame would be the proper solution.
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Horrible tournament indeed. ROOTDestiny was given a loss when HasHe disconnected which ended the series 2-1 to HasHe.
I joined the stream chat and was given a 10 minute ban for typing "+1 to vexmode" who pointed out that HasHe suspiciously reacted to the casters saying that ROOTDestiny was going for the backdoor rocks in a very mannered fashion.
I genuinely think that the administrators are only in on this for the money and not to support the community in anyway, acting in such an outrageous lame manner.
I don't recommend on watching this tournament if you are looking for fair play.
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I think that calling a game on the basis of time as opposed to the conditions of the game is extremely unprofessional. This is a disgrace to the sponsors of the tournament and sets a bad example for e-sports in general. I hope other new and expanding casters and tournaments don't take this as an example, and instead have the integrity and sportsmanship to replay a game regardless of time constraints.
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Wow...
Destiny is 10 supply short of maxed, with over 2k minerals just sitting there. Burrow, Adrenal glands, EVERY upgrade in the book, and they call it a Hashe victory?!
Take a look at GomTV. Dimaga vs (I think) MVP. MVP was MUCH further ahead than Hashe ever was in this game, but it wasn't over. Both players had sizable armys.
Won't be watching another EnVy gaming event again, to be honest. That is pathetic.
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Pretty hard to make everyone happy, I'm plenty agree with the decision...
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Love how most of whiners are people with 1-10 posts. Did Destiny pay you to whine and bash event admins?
On April 09 2011 11:36 Eagl3s1ght wrote:
Horrible tournament indeed. ROOTDestiny was given a loss when HasHe disconnected which ended the series 2-1 to HasHe.
I joined the stream chat and was given a 10 minute ban for typing "+1 to vexmode" who pointed out that HasHe suspiciously reacted to the casters saying that ROOTDestiny was going for the backdoor rocks in a very mannered fashion.
I genuinely think that the administrators are only in on this for the money and not to support the community in anyway, acting in such an outrageous lame manner.
I don't recommend on watching this tournament if you are looking for fair play.
Stream is delayed. Now question: can your blind fanboyism grasp idea of "delayed stream"?
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On April 09 2011 11:51 whiterabbit wrote:Love how most of whiners are people with 1-10 posts. Did Destiny pay you to whine and bash event admins? Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 11:36 Eagl3s1ght wrote:
Horrible tournament indeed. ROOTDestiny was given a loss when HasHe disconnected which ended the series 2-1 to HasHe.
I joined the stream chat and was given a 10 minute ban for typing "+1 to vexmode" who pointed out that HasHe suspiciously reacted to the casters saying that ROOTDestiny was going for the backdoor rocks in a very mannered fashion.
I genuinely think that the administrators are only in on this for the money and not to support the community in anyway, acting in such an outrageous lame manner.
I don't recommend on watching this tournament if you are looking for fair play. Stream is delayed. Now question: can your blind fanboyism grasp idea of "delayed stream"?
Post count doesn't matter.
Funny how people think so.
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On April 09 2011 11:51 whiterabbit wrote:Love how most of whiners are people with 1-10 posts. Did Destiny pay you to whine and bash event admins? Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 11:36 Eagl3s1ght wrote:
Horrible tournament indeed. ROOTDestiny was given a loss when HasHe disconnected which ended the series 2-1 to HasHe.
I joined the stream chat and was given a 10 minute ban for typing "+1 to vexmode" who pointed out that HasHe suspiciously reacted to the casters saying that ROOTDestiny was going for the backdoor rocks in a very mannered fashion.
I genuinely think that the administrators are only in on this for the money and not to support the community in anyway, acting in such an outrageous lame manner.
I don't recommend on watching this tournament if you are looking for fair play. Stream is delayed. Now question: can your blind fanboyism grasp idea of "delayed stream"?
Most people are not claiming "stream cheating", that would be absurd. Hashe is a legit and very strong player.
And while he had an advantage that game was not over by any stretch of the imagination, we have all seen ppl come back from even worse. Calling a win to the guy the disconnected is wrong on so many levels.
Also Destiny does not advocate people bashing, from the way that you wrote I would wager you have watched him very little or not at all.
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They should have had rules set for this sort of thing. When destiny almost d/c'd they said it was going to be a forfeit and then when Hashe d/c'd they gave the win to him. Inconsistency is the big problem i have here. Should have just been a rematch and it would have solved it all.
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On April 09 2011 11:53 Sprinkles619 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 11:51 whiterabbit wrote:Love how most of whiners are people with 1-10 posts. Did Destiny pay you to whine and bash event admins? On April 09 2011 11:36 Eagl3s1ght wrote:
Horrible tournament indeed. ROOTDestiny was given a loss when HasHe disconnected which ended the series 2-1 to HasHe.
I joined the stream chat and was given a 10 minute ban for typing "+1 to vexmode" who pointed out that HasHe suspiciously reacted to the casters saying that ROOTDestiny was going for the backdoor rocks in a very mannered fashion.
I genuinely think that the administrators are only in on this for the money and not to support the community in anyway, acting in such an outrageous lame manner.
I don't recommend on watching this tournament if you are looking for fair play. Stream is delayed. Now question: can your blind fanboyism grasp idea of "delayed stream"? Post count doesn't matter. Funny how people think so.
I kinda agree and yes I know what I said in last post.
But you know what matters? When you see 10 people with few posts spreading lies and when those same people sound uttery biased. Army count, expansions, current lead, moment when DC occurred, upgrades, almost everything was wrongly interpreted by Destiny fans.
He even said himself that he was behind (his words from his stream) and even continuing with few nice words how Hashe is strong player, etc.
I would never thought SC2 fanboyism would go that far... being able to lie, talk out of proportions that much just because some guy without any achievement(s) but who often streams lost a game by admin's decision.
And again, it is really hard to like Destiny because of his fans.
On April 09 2011 11:54 Octavion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 11:51 whiterabbit wrote:Love how most of whiners are people with 1-10 posts. Did Destiny pay you to whine and bash event admins? On April 09 2011 11:36 Eagl3s1ght wrote:
Horrible tournament indeed. ROOTDestiny was given a loss when HasHe disconnected which ended the series 2-1 to HasHe.
I joined the stream chat and was given a 10 minute ban for typing "+1 to vexmode" who pointed out that HasHe suspiciously reacted to the casters saying that ROOTDestiny was going for the backdoor rocks in a very mannered fashion.
I genuinely think that the administrators are only in on this for the money and not to support the community in anyway, acting in such an outrageous lame manner.
I don't recommend on watching this tournament if you are looking for fair play. Stream is delayed. Now question: can your blind fanboyism grasp idea of "delayed stream"? Most people are not claiming "stream cheating", that would be absurd. Hashe is a legit and very strong player. And while he had an advantage that game was not over by any stretch of the imagination, we have all seen ppl come back from even worse. Calling a win to the guy the disconnected is wrong on so many levels. Also Destiny does not advocate people bashing, from the way that you wrote I would wager you have watched him very little or not at all.
Finally nice post from Destiny's fan.
Dude, I would vote for remake as well - just for sake of good games and sportsmanship. I am just reacting on decision reaction by people who sound unbelievably biased.
And yeah, I said I watched his stream just few times and didn't like his tone and I liked even less people on his chat. Same people who went crazy on tournament's chat made me feel I don't belong there. I tune in from time to time hoping to see some in-house Root practice games.
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white rabbit be trollin'. destiny fans hatin'
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On April 09 2011 11:51 whiterabbit wrote:Love how most of whiners are people with 1-10 posts. Did Destiny pay you to whine and bash event admins? Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 11:36 Eagl3s1ght wrote:
Horrible tournament indeed. ROOTDestiny was given a loss when HasHe disconnected which ended the series 2-1 to HasHe.
I joined the stream chat and was given a 10 minute ban for typing "+1 to vexmode" who pointed out that HasHe suspiciously reacted to the casters saying that ROOTDestiny was going for the backdoor rocks in a very mannered fashion.
I genuinely think that the administrators are only in on this for the money and not to support the community in anyway, acting in such an outrageous lame manner.
I don't recommend on watching this tournament if you are looking for fair play. Stream is delayed. Now question: can your blind fanboyism grasp idea of "delayed stream"?
I don't get why you think post count disqualifies an opinion, considering your one of the few defending the decision It shows that your most likely wrong, you obviously aren't looking at it objectively, you don't like steven, which is fine, but that makes it so you discount all the other posters as mindless fanboys. I've been watching steven since he first started streaming very early on in the beta. If you actually watched him you would understand he is very integral and a fantastic person, yea he BMs, but why don't you hate on Idra than, he bms for nothing while Steve is very intelligent and coherent in his words. It's true often he can go overboard but it is very entertaining. The fact that you think a high post count gives you the right to belittle, and discriminate against those with lower post counts shows that you don't respect the 'Canadian charter of rights and freedoms' or 'The Constitution' or whatever great country you live in.
We wanted to watch, good fair games, not to be decided by absolute totalitarism by the admins who obviously didn't go with the majority decision
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To whiterabbit -
The only thing that bothered me was that as Destiny's countdown went down, they announced it would be an automatic loss for Destiny, however when HasHe disconnected, they actually took the game into consideration and gave him the win.
The fact that they weren't consistent is what bothered me, and I'm pretty sure in very high level tournaments, they base a DC off of who is ahead anyway.
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On April 09 2011 12:05 Slago wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 11:51 whiterabbit wrote:Love how most of whiners are people with 1-10 posts. Did Destiny pay you to whine and bash event admins? On April 09 2011 11:36 Eagl3s1ght wrote:
Horrible tournament indeed. ROOTDestiny was given a loss when HasHe disconnected which ended the series 2-1 to HasHe.
I joined the stream chat and was given a 10 minute ban for typing "+1 to vexmode" who pointed out that HasHe suspiciously reacted to the casters saying that ROOTDestiny was going for the backdoor rocks in a very mannered fashion.
I genuinely think that the administrators are only in on this for the money and not to support the community in anyway, acting in such an outrageous lame manner.
I don't recommend on watching this tournament if you are looking for fair play. Stream is delayed. Now question: can your blind fanboyism grasp idea of "delayed stream"? I don't get why you think post count disqualifies an opinion, considering your one of the few defending the decision It shows that your most likely wrong, you obviously aren't looking at it objectively, you don't like steven, which is fine, but that makes it so you discount all the other posters as mindless fanboys. I've been watching steven since he first started streaming very early on in the beta. If you actually watched him you would understand he is very integral and a fantastic person, yea he BMs, but why don't you hate on Idra than, he bms for nothing while Steve is very intelligent and coherent in his words. It's true often he can go overboard but it is very entertaining. The fact that you think a high post count gives you the right to belittle, and discriminate against those with lower post counts shows that you don't respect the 'Canadian charter of rights and freedoms' or 'The Constitution' or whatever great country you live in. We wanted to watch, good fair games, not to be decided by absolute totalitarism by the admins who obviously didn't go with the majority decision
My last post answered few things about my "post" statement. I don't like his fans, about Steven directly I wasn't on his stream enough to make definitive opinion. Also where did I say I "like" Idra? And yeah, "majority" aint always right but as I said I would go for remake as well I just got a bit upset by people who refuse to look at things with a bit of clarity.
On April 09 2011 12:09 Sprinkles619 wrote:
To whiterabbit -
The only thing that bothered me was that as Destiny's countdown went down, they announced it would be an automatic loss for Destiny, however when HasHe disconnected, they actually took the game into consideration and gave him the win.
The fact that they weren't consistent is what bothered me, and I'm pretty sure in very high level tournaments, they base a DC off of who is ahead anyway.
Few Mods at chat said that was a joke. It's your choice if you want to believe in that or not.
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On April 09 2011 11:43 BrahCJ wrote:
Wow...
Destiny is 10 supply short of maxed, with over 2k minerals just sitting there. Burrow, Adrenal glands, EVERY upgrade in the book, and they call it a Hashe victory?!
Take a look at GomTV. Dimaga vs (I think) MVP. MVP was MUCH further ahead than Hashe ever was in this game, but it wasn't over. Both players had sizable armys.
Won't be watching another EnVy gaming event again, to be honest. That is pathetic.
I like how you conveniently forgot to mention how ahead Hashe was. He was maxed with thousands banked, was up on expansions, and had killed off Destiny's greater spire and infestation pit. I do agree that things could have been run more smoothly.
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On April 09 2011 12:13 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 11:43 BrahCJ wrote:
Wow...
Destiny is 10 supply short of maxed, with over 2k minerals just sitting there. Burrow, Adrenal glands, EVERY upgrade in the book, and they call it a Hashe victory?!
Take a look at GomTV. Dimaga vs (I think) MVP. MVP was MUCH further ahead than Hashe ever was in this game, but it wasn't over. Both players had sizable armys.
Won't be watching another EnVy gaming event again, to be honest. That is pathetic. I like how you conveniently forgot to mention how ahead Hashe was. He was maxed with thousands banked, was up on expansions, and had killed off Destiny's greater spire and infestation pit. I do agree that things could have been run more smoothly.
Hashe had 3k/2k banked while destiny had 2.5k/1k banked. Hashe's income was 1200 mins/600 gas with him trying to set up a new base, while Destiny's was 800 mins/400 gas. The supply was 200 to 184 with hashe in the lead obviously and hashe did have the advantage of a few orbital commands for mules. However, Hashe did not have his entire army in the middle and if steven had just A-moved in, he would've destroyed Has's entire army and he would have free reign on all of hashe's bases because there were no planetary fortresses. The game was in no way over and Destiny actually had a pretty good chance to come back there.
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On April 09 2011 12:13 whiterabbit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 12:05 Slago wrote:On April 09 2011 11:51 whiterabbit wrote:Love how most of whiners are people with 1-10 posts. Did Destiny pay you to whine and bash event admins? On April 09 2011 11:36 Eagl3s1ght wrote:
Horrible tournament indeed. ROOTDestiny was given a loss when HasHe disconnected which ended the series 2-1 to HasHe.
I joined the stream chat and was given a 10 minute ban for typing "+1 to vexmode" who pointed out that HasHe suspiciously reacted to the casters saying that ROOTDestiny was going for the backdoor rocks in a very mannered fashion.
I genuinely think that the administrators are only in on this for the money and not to support the community in anyway, acting in such an outrageous lame manner.
I don't recommend on watching this tournament if you are looking for fair play. Stream is delayed. Now question: can your blind fanboyism grasp idea of "delayed stream"? I don't get why you think post count disqualifies an opinion, considering your one of the few defending the decision It shows that your most likely wrong, you obviously aren't looking at it objectively, you don't like steven, which is fine, but that makes it so you discount all the other posters as mindless fanboys. I've been watching steven since he first started streaming very early on in the beta. If you actually watched him you would understand he is very integral and a fantastic person, yea he BMs, but why don't you hate on Idra than, he bms for nothing while Steve is very intelligent and coherent in his words. It's true often he can go overboard but it is very entertaining. The fact that you think a high post count gives you the right to belittle, and discriminate against those with lower post counts shows that you don't respect the 'Canadian charter of rights and freedoms' or 'The Constitution' or whatever great country you live in. We wanted to watch, good fair games, not to be decided by absolute totalitarism by the admins who obviously didn't go with the majority decision My last post answered few things about my "post" statement. I don't like his fans, about Steven directly I wasn't on his stream enough to make definitive opinion. Also where did I say I "like" Idra? And yeah, "majority" aint always right but as I said I would go for remake as well I just got a bit upset by people who refuse to look at things with a bit of clarity. Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 12:09 Sprinkles619 wrote:
To whiterabbit -
The only thing that bothered me was that as Destiny's countdown went down, they announced it would be an automatic loss for Destiny, however when HasHe disconnected, they actually took the game into consideration and gave him the win.
The fact that they weren't consistent is what bothered me, and I'm pretty sure in very high level tournaments, they base a DC off of who is ahead anyway. Few Mods at chat said that was a joke. It's your choice if you want to believe in that or not.
So you don't like Idra?
also yes I understand your P.O.V after reading your last post but my statement still stands
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On April 09 2011 12:19 Truefire wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 12:13 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:On April 09 2011 11:43 BrahCJ wrote:
Wow...
Destiny is 10 supply short of maxed, with over 2k minerals just sitting there. Burrow, Adrenal glands, EVERY upgrade in the book, and they call it a Hashe victory?!
Take a look at GomTV. Dimaga vs (I think) MVP. MVP was MUCH further ahead than Hashe ever was in this game, but it wasn't over. Both players had sizable armys.
Won't be watching another EnVy gaming event again, to be honest. That is pathetic. I like how you conveniently forgot to mention how ahead Hashe was. He was maxed with thousands banked, was up on expansions, and had killed off Destiny's greater spire and infestation pit. I do agree that things could have been run more smoothly. Hashe had 3k/2k banked while destiny had 2.5k/1k banked. Hashe's income was 1200 mins/600 gas with him trying to set up a new base, while Destiny's was 800 mins/400 gas. The supply was 200 to 184 with hashe in the lead obviously and hashe did have the advantage of a few orbital commands for mules. However, Hashe did not have his entire army in the middle and if steven had just A-moved in, he would've destroyed Has's entire army and he would have free reign on all of hashe's bases because there were no planetary fortresses. The game was in no way over and Destiny actually had a pretty good chance to come back there.
The reason I didn't speak about Hashe is because it really didn't matter.
If a player has 185 supply, every upgrade in the book, and 2000/1000 banked up, hey isn't out of the game. The ,game is not over. The game is not an auto-win. REGARDLESS of what you're up against. Its about finding cost effectiveness in your army. If used correctly, Infestors and Mutas can be the two most cost effective units in the game.
TL:DR A player with 185 supply, and 2000/1000 is not out of any game.
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Wow i thought there going to be a regame..came back and it was a forfeit? What a joke. Terrible decision.
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On April 09 2011 12:32 BrahCJ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 12:19 Truefire wrote:On April 09 2011 12:13 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:On April 09 2011 11:43 BrahCJ wrote:
Wow...
Destiny is 10 supply short of maxed, with over 2k minerals just sitting there. Burrow, Adrenal glands, EVERY upgrade in the book, and they call it a Hashe victory?!
Take a look at GomTV. Dimaga vs (I think) MVP. MVP was MUCH further ahead than Hashe ever was in this game, but it wasn't over. Both players had sizable armys.
Won't be watching another EnVy gaming event again, to be honest. That is pathetic. I like how you conveniently forgot to mention how ahead Hashe was. He was maxed with thousands banked, was up on expansions, and had killed off Destiny's greater spire and infestation pit. I do agree that things could have been run more smoothly. Hashe had 3k/2k banked while destiny had 2.5k/1k banked. Hashe's income was 1200 mins/600 gas with him trying to set up a new base, while Destiny's was 800 mins/400 gas. The supply was 200 to 184 with hashe in the lead obviously and hashe did have the advantage of a few orbital commands for mules. However, Hashe did not have his entire army in the middle and if steven had just A-moved in, he would've destroyed Has's entire army and he would have free reign on all of hashe's bases because there were no planetary fortresses. The game was in no way over and Destiny actually had a pretty good chance to come back there. The reason I didn't speak about Hashe is because it really didn't matter. If a player has 185 supply, every upgrade in the book, and 2000/1000 banked up, hey isn't out of the game. The ,game is not over. The game is not an auto-win. REGARDLESS of what you're up against. Its about finding cost effectiveness in your army. If used correctly, Infestors and Mutas can be the two most cost effective units in the game. TL:DR A player with 185 supply, and 2000/1000 is not out of any game.
I'm supporting your point lol, don't think you actually read my post.
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On April 09 2011 12:48 Truefire wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 12:32 BrahCJ wrote:On April 09 2011 12:19 Truefire wrote:On April 09 2011 12:13 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:On April 09 2011 11:43 BrahCJ wrote:
Wow...
Destiny is 10 supply short of maxed, with over 2k minerals just sitting there. Burrow, Adrenal glands, EVERY upgrade in the book, and they call it a Hashe victory?!
Take a look at GomTV. Dimaga vs (I think) MVP. MVP was MUCH further ahead than Hashe ever was in this game, but it wasn't over. Both players had sizable armys.
Won't be watching another EnVy gaming event again, to be honest. That is pathetic. I like how you conveniently forgot to mention how ahead Hashe was. He was maxed with thousands banked, was up on expansions, and had killed off Destiny's greater spire and infestation pit. I do agree that things could have been run more smoothly. Hashe had 3k/2k banked while destiny had 2.5k/1k banked. Hashe's income was 1200 mins/600 gas with him trying to set up a new base, while Destiny's was 800 mins/400 gas. The supply was 200 to 184 with hashe in the lead obviously and hashe did have the advantage of a few orbital commands for mules. However, Hashe did not have his entire army in the middle and if steven had just A-moved in, he would've destroyed Has's entire army and he would have free reign on all of hashe's bases because there were no planetary fortresses. The game was in no way over and Destiny actually had a pretty good chance to come back there. The reason I didn't speak about Hashe is because it really didn't matter. If a player has 185 supply, every upgrade in the book, and 2000/1000 banked up, hey isn't out of the game. The ,game is not over. The game is not an auto-win. REGARDLESS of what you're up against. Its about finding cost effectiveness in your army. If used correctly, Infestors and Mutas can be the two most cost effective units in the game. TL:DR A player with 185 supply, and 2000/1000 is not out of any game. I'm supporting your point lol, don't think you actually read my post.
he wasn't arguing with you he was arguing with the guy that replied to you
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It was shaping up to be a good series, It was unfortunate that Destiny had to take a loss, It should have been a regame. As far as I understand, the casters were worried about the time frame doing all the casting in one day. It should have been a day planned a bit better. The casters were complaining that it was already late and they had to cast the remainder of the games. Yes it was probably a joke that it was an auto loss, but at the same time they were a little serious and would only regame if destiny put up a fight, which he did not. Which I guess is easier on there conscience. Yes Destinys fans can be a bit trollish especially from a TL perspective where BM is kept to a minimum. Reddit on the other hand is more open, and I think that a lot of Redditors enjoy Destinys stream. even if you don't like destiny, or Reddit they are a big part of the SC2 community.
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They did decide to give it to hashe since we didn't have time to stream a rematch but in the end we decided for them to have a rematch not on the stream but from what i was told destiny said he had lost and didn't want to do a rematch and we couldn't get ahold of hashe from that point on. Sorry for any inconvience towards you guys. We had 3 no shows and a ton of technical difficulty's so there was alot of scrambling and everybody was stressed. Its really tough to run a tourney with a small group especially with as big of players as we had. There were alot of things we didn't forsee and we learned alot about how to run our next tourney. we'll certainly plan out rules for DC's and try to solve any other issues we faced. I hope that some of you enjoyed it, we tried to make it the best possible and I promise the next time around that everything will go much smoother.
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Completely ridiculous and absurd ruling
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I talked to steven and asked him if he wanted a rematch, He said no.
End of Story, Please check out. forum.envygaming.org for more info on events and EnVy Gaming news.
By the way some people are mad because we made destiny close his stream, it was necessary.
Additionally, the 10 minute breaks were because, of people who were confirmed not showing.
Azz-Didn't show
FxOptiKzeRo-Double Booked in another tournament
MoMaN-Late.
tQSadist-Left us a message on here 10 minutes before start time.
All of these people were talked to many times and still found a way not to show up, I'm sorry for how things went last night, it was bad from the start.
All I ask is that you forgive us, and we will bring better starcraft to you in the future.
Thanks,
Bonkerz
P.S. if you need to contact me you can email me at
bonkerz@envygaming.org
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so who won the tournament, or what ended up happening?
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On April 11 2011 09:51 Warrice wrote:
so who won the tournament, or what ended up happening?
MoMaN
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