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On March 18 2011 10:48 floor exercise wrote:
I know I'm an esports terrorist for criticizing, but clash of the titans had the same problem and that was like a month ago. Whatever technical issue is causing it hasn't been fixed, and i know the plan for NASL is to cast live games but doesn't it make sense to assume that some games will have to be cast off replays because of lag between players/casters. So wouldn't it be prudent to I dunno, fix the problem that makes Gretorp slowly travel back through time as he casts before your $100,000 tournament begins
my favorite hater 
No replay casts in NASL
Thanks for caring though!
btw how do you propose fixing replay casting?
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On March 18 2011 10:53 halvorg wrote:
pretty ridicoulus that ret cant play now when both him and inc are ok with it.
indeed... i mean it's allready 3am for europeans... who's the "smart" guy which sets those rules?
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Poor Ret is not going to have a lot of sleep tonight :/
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On March 18 2011 10:53 teamsolid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 10:47 SiguR wrote:On March 18 2011 10:44 eNbee wrote:
Nice caster delay... How do you manage that when you pause forever at the start of the game. Kinda takes something away from the game. Great series so far though. It's been a recurring problem for... at least two months now, and that's the most frustrating part. It has literally been taking away from every single event they do, and it's been ongoing. They know about it but apparently can't do anything about it with the format they use. I don't know why they insist on doing it the way they do, though. I would much much rather have one commentator on pace than two out of synch. Then how come ALL of the TL Opens which were casted by replays and had 2 commentators, where neither were obsing the game had no issues with desyncing whatsoever. Along with pretty much any other tournament casted from replays, I've never seen such issues.
They did have sync issues, they just did not make it seem obvious. Chill was usually the one behind djWHEAT, but again he did not make it seem obvious and spoke after he heard what djWHEAT said and caught up.
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On March 18 2011 10:54 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 10:48 floor exercise wrote:
I know I'm an esports terrorist for criticizing, but clash of the titans had the same problem and that was like a month ago. Whatever technical issue is causing it hasn't been fixed, and i know the plan for NASL is to cast live games but doesn't it make sense to assume that some games will have to be cast off replays because of lag between players/casters. So wouldn't it be prudent to I dunno, fix the problem that makes Gretorp slowly travel back through time as he casts before your $100,000 tournament begins my favorite hater No replay casts in NASL Thanks for caring though! btw how do you propose fixing replay casting?
Not that i agree to much with the guy you quoted, but if one of the casters stream (Gretorp in this case, since the "camera man" is following him) atleast 1/2 of the casters will be sync. Also would make the camera much smoother I guess.
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On March 18 2011 10:54 Amethyst21 wrote:
Poor Ret is not going to have a lot of sleep tonight :/
Hopefully he won't play when he's too tired, but if he does then that's only his fault, right? After all, he could have just slept in later today... we all knew when these games were going to be played and the order in which the games were going down.
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On March 18 2011 10:53 bkrow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 10:49 bkrow wrote: EGStrifeCro vs  Liquid'Tyler coming up on Xel'naga Caverns! Strife spawns at the top right, Tyler at the bottom left position! Tyler going 13 gate, Strife going pool first, looking like a speedling expand.. Tyler scouting after gateway
Tyler drops an 18 cyber core, and starts his second gas; Strife scouts it all out with a drone.. Speed on the way for Strife, and he drops his hatch at 22 i think
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Tyler setting up to expand with sentries
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On March 18 2011 10:56 bkrow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 10:53 bkrow wrote:On March 18 2011 10:49 bkrow wrote:EGStrifeCro vs Liquid'Tyler coming up on Xel'naga Caverns! Strife spawns at the top right, Tyler at the bottom left position! Tyler going 13 gate, Strife going pool first, looking like a speedling expand.. Tyler scouting after gateway Tyler drops an 18 cyber core, and starts his second gas; Strife scouts it all out with a drone.. Speed on the way for Strife, and he drops his hatch at 22 i think
Tyler drops his FOURTH gateway! Probably a zealot sentry push.. Speed just finishes for Strife.. Roach warren on the way for Strife; and Tyler drops the nexus.. 6 sentries, a zealot and stalker for Strife, who scouts the Nexus and drones up nicely
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On March 18 2011 10:52 CursedFeanor wrote:
I wonder why incontrol didn't want to play Ret right away... poor Ret!
Incontrol said he would play Ret but wanted the score of the series to count for the fourth matchup. The runners of the tourney said it would count as the second. Stream is being so terrible right now 
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Looks like Nony is faking 3 gate expand and doing a 4 gate. I saw a similar build in Nani vs Morrow. needless to say, morrow got destroyed
edit nvm: tyler takes his nat
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I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but what's the point of typing play by plays of the game people can easily watch.
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Tyler's doing the iNcontroL build. Learning from the other clan, I see.
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On March 18 2011 10:54 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 10:48 floor exercise wrote:
I know I'm an esports terrorist for criticizing, but clash of the titans had the same problem and that was like a month ago. Whatever technical issue is causing it hasn't been fixed, and i know the plan for NASL is to cast live games but doesn't it make sense to assume that some games will have to be cast off replays because of lag between players/casters. So wouldn't it be prudent to I dunno, fix the problem that makes Gretorp slowly travel back through time as he casts before your $100,000 tournament begins my favorite hater No replay casts in NASL Thanks for caring though! btw how do you propose fixing replay casting?
I've never seen any other cast have this issue where one caster constantly goes out of sync by up to like 15-20 seconds.
I know you aren't replay casting, but suppose you actually invite Koreans, and in order to keep the lag out of a game vs someone in NA the observers have to leave. You know to make sure the players are playing under the most optimal setting.
I think it would be prudent to figure out why Gretorp always ends up so far behind on replays that he's casting a SC1 game in case that event arises. Rather than those games end up like Clash of the Titans and having everyone laugh at you again. I hate you so much I am offering this keen foresight, at no charge!
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On March 18 2011 10:55 GenoZStriker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 10:53 teamsolid wrote:On March 18 2011 10:47 SiguR wrote:On March 18 2011 10:44 eNbee wrote:
Nice caster delay... How do you manage that when you pause forever at the start of the game. Kinda takes something away from the game. Great series so far though. It's been a recurring problem for... at least two months now, and that's the most frustrating part. It has literally been taking away from every single event they do, and it's been ongoing. They know about it but apparently can't do anything about it with the format they use. I don't know why they insist on doing it the way they do, though. I would much much rather have one commentator on pace than two out of synch. Then how come ALL of the TL Opens which were casted by replays and had 2 commentators, where neither were obsing the game had no issues with desyncing whatsoever. Along with pretty much any other tournament casted from replays, I've never seen such issues. They did have sync issues, they just did not make it seem obvious. Chill was usually the one behind djWHEAT, but again he did not make it seem obvious and spoke after he heard what djWHEAT said and caught up.
Well at least they were not distracting enough for me to notice. I've watched nearly all of the TL Open streams and I don't remember any noticeable desyncing at all. Maybe it's the commentators that covered it up, maybe not. Either way it wasn't a problem for me, unlike for this stream.
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On March 18 2011 10:58 Maelstrom.cobhc wrote:
I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but what's the point of typing play by plays of the game people can easily watch.
The stream doesn't work for everybody?
tyler pushes in: strifeco caught off guard. forcefields destroy his army. strifeco ggs
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Nony pushing into his Strifecros nat for the kill
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On March 18 2011 10:57 bkrow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 10:56 bkrow wrote:On March 18 2011 10:53 bkrow wrote:On March 18 2011 10:49 bkrow wrote:EGStrifeCro vs Liquid'Tyler coming up on Xel'naga Caverns! Strife spawns at the top right, Tyler at the bottom left position! Tyler going 13 gate, Strife going pool first, looking like a speedling expand.. Tyler scouting after gateway Tyler drops an 18 cyber core, and starts his second gas; Strife scouts it all out with a drone.. Speed on the way for Strife, and he drops his hatch at 22 i think Tyler drops his FOURTH gateway! Probably a zealot sentry push.. Speed just finishes for Strife.. Roach warren on the way for Strife; and Tyler drops the nexus.. 6 sentries, a zealot and stalker for Strife, who scouts the Nexus and drones up nicely
Tyler pushes into Strife's natural with nice FFs - catching 3 roaches.. 4 stalkers doing a lot of damage; lings trying to snipe the sentries - getting 2! Lots of lots, sentries and some stalkers.. Roaches being sniped as they pop.. Tyler has completely shut down the natural..
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Wow, I can't hold off a 4gate either. Good to know that a 4gate is now a macro build as well.
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