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Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
March 11 2011 04:55 GMT
#381
Jinro played this one so poorly. It started with him making three bunkers at his natural against a teching and fast expanding protoss which enabled tt1 to take the gold for free and then he engaged at the worst possible spot when he hadn't enough vikings yet. I think he was dealing with lag or something.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
March 11 2011 04:56 GMT
#382
Kawaii over Ret was a huge upset in my opinion. But looking at the games, especially Shakuras it just seemed like he got outplayed; I have no idea what to say.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 04:58:55
March 11 2011 04:57 GMT
#383
On March 11 2011 13:55 Baum wrote:
Jinro played this one so poorly. It started with him making three bunkers at his natural against a teching and fast expanding protoss which enabled tt1 to take the gold for free and then he engaged at the worst possible spot when he hadn't enough vikings yet. I think he was dealing with lag or something.


Engaging in that position was a huge issue although Jinro knew he was behind due to TT1's gold and so wanted to contest the Xel'Naga. Latency probably played a role in half his army getting FF'd though. I suppose if he had no latency he might've been able to pull back in time.

But really he was behind on macro the entire game and the same is true of game 1. Don't know how that happened. Does latency really affect your macro as well?
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
March 11 2011 04:59 GMT
#384
i have no idea how it is from korea to NA but I play on Korea server all the time and the latency is not as bad as you guys are trying to make it seem... I can go mass rines vs zergs and micro fine most games.

ggs liquid
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 11 2011 05:00 GMT
#385
On March 11 2011 13:56 tsuxiit wrote:
Kawaii over Ret was a huge upset in my opinion. But looking at the games, especially Shakuras it just seemed like he got outplayed; I have no idea what to say.


Ret vs. KawaiiRice was probably the closest match in the series. Really exciting games imo and you didn't know who was going to win until the very end of Game 3.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
March 11 2011 05:00 GMT
#386
On March 11 2011 13:57 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 13:55 Baum wrote:
Jinro played this one so poorly. It started with him making three bunkers at his natural against a teching and fast expanding protoss which enabled tt1 to take the gold for free and then he engaged at the worst possible spot when he hadn't enough vikings yet. I think he was dealing with lag or something.


Engaging in that position was a huge issue although Jinro knew he was behind due to TT1's gold and so wanted to contest the Xel'Naga. Latency probably played a role in half his army getting FF'd though. I suppose if he had no latency he might've been able to pull back in time.

But really he was behind on macro the entire game and the same is true of game 1. Don't know how that happened. Does latency really affect your macro as well?


No, it's just people making excuses. Can't accept the fact that TT1 just played better than Jinro did.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 05:07:54
March 11 2011 05:01 GMT
#387
On March 11 2011 13:59 KawaiiRice wrote:
i have no idea how it is from korea to NA but I play on Korea server all the time and the latency is not as bad as you guys are trying to make it seem... I can go mass rines vs zergs and micro fine most games.

ggs liquid

The latency was fine today, some days it sucks. Today was no issue.

I think i played fine game 1 and 2 and i think i missed a ton of depots game 3. I also think anyone who says PvT is fine is an idiot, but primarily because terran cant win if protoss gets templars late game which wasnt really an issue in any of todays games.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
March 11 2011 05:02 GMT
#388
There can be a ton of excuses.. latency or the fact that it was really early in the morning or whatever..

True or not we will never know congrats to fnatic - they looked so damn solid!
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hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
March 11 2011 05:03 GMT
#389
On March 11 2011 13:59 KawaiiRice wrote:
i have no idea how it is from korea to NA but I play on Korea server all the time and the latency is not as bad as you guys are trying to make it seem... I can go mass rines vs zergs and micro fine most games.

ggs liquid

yea, I play with my friend on US server when I was in Vietnam and there was no lag at all, and the internet speed was like 1.4 mbps so yea I dont think it's that bad
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
March 11 2011 05:04 GMT
#390
Was really enjoyable to watch, slightly disappointed with the results but its alright. KawaiiRice impressed me the most.
PrimeTimey
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada369 Posts
March 11 2011 05:06 GMT
#391
Thanks for the great games tonight, really enjoyed watching!
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
March 11 2011 05:08 GMT
#392
On March 11 2011 13:49 Finrod1 wrote:
kinda bad play by jinro. don't know why jinro stayed with this only bio play vs mass colossus. anyway gratz to fnatic!

Oddly, colossi also counter tanks pretty well. It's weird.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
March 11 2011 05:09 GMT
#393
So many fanboys eating crow. I wasn't particularly rooting for anyone but am glad that there were some competitive games in there. Fnatic sure did come prepared to take on the big dogs though and they didn't disappoint.

GG's
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 11 2011 05:12 GMT
#394
On March 11 2011 13:55 Baum wrote:
Jinro played this one so poorly. It started with him making three bunkers at his natural against a teching and fast expanding protoss which enabled tt1 to take the gold for free and then he engaged at the worst possible spot when he hadn't enough vikings yet. I think he was dealing with lag or something.

Because I thought he was gonna 1 gate nex, 6 gate allin, I thought that was why he picked this map...

I fucked up a ton of depots so had no army, and you need to fight around that area or your vikings are exposed. Not emping before the fight was a huge mistake of course.

Not lag.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
March 11 2011 05:16 GMT
#395
WP today Jinro, and gg's.

Was rooting for ya, but hey, can't win 'em all.

I salute you FrozenArbiter
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oXoCube
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada197 Posts
March 11 2011 05:17 GMT
#396
I think it's interesting to note that Sen didn't play. Fnatic is a far deeper team than I initially thought.
Baby_Seal
Profile Joined August 2010
United States360 Posts
March 11 2011 05:18 GMT
#397
I suppose this is a bit of payback for MLG Dallas for TT1 =P.

Still, I'm sorry to see a 3-0 by Fnatic this series. The score doesn't do justice to the quality of the competition and how close this clan war actually was.
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
March 11 2011 05:18 GMT
#398


Still, I'm sorry to see a 3-0 by Fnatic this series. The score doesn't do justice to the quality of the competition and how close this clan war actually was.



100x So many close series there.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
March 11 2011 05:19 GMT
#399
Congrats to Fnatic!

On March 08 2011 10:32 shaunnn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2011 09:51 bkrow wrote:
On March 08 2011 09:51 shaunnn wrote:
sen will wreck haypro and liquid will easily take the other 3, only one that will be close is TLO v fenix and it completely depends how well fenix is playing atm, whether he decided to pick it up after iem or not

Have you heard of KawaiiRice?


The guy with zero major results against any top players in last like 4-5 months? yes and I give him 0 chance against a player of rets calibre who just had a few months training in korea and has already established hes currently better than 90% of the wests top players at assembly.



Posts like these are always classic. :D
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 05:27:54
March 11 2011 05:21 GMT
#400
Well, Fnatic has:

Sen (Z) - ex-BW pro
KawaiiRice (T) - ex-was-up-and-coming BW pro
Iefnaij (P) - ex-BW pro
Gretorp (T) - handsome ex-BW pro?
TT1 (P) - ex-BW pro
Fenix (T) - ex-BW pro
Xeris (manager)

So yeah, they have a pretty "deep" team, I'd say. Easily the most stacked with ex-BW pros. Could use one more Zerg though.
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