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Deltawolf
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States105 Posts
February 04 2011 18:22 GMT
#641
This is MUST SEE series. GCPL is getting more and more exciting every time I watch :D
* Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 04 2011 18:23 GMT
#642
On February 05 2011 03:19 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 03:17 iNcontroL wrote:
On February 05 2011 03:09 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On February 05 2011 02:20 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
I curious why Gosucoaching uses Justin.tv over UStream. I don't stream but I was under the impression most players prefer U-Stream.


99% of them switched (NOT calling out Gosucoaching, I am not sure why they switched, just speaking in general) for $ because Justin offered a partner program before Ustream. But if you want to cater to the whole word, and you care about more then $, Ustream is superior to Justin.

Plus that's not mentioning the rampant piracy.....


loll


?


Oh. Nothing Diamond! I just found it funny that you essentially equated all Justin users to money mongering people who don't care about the world.

Sick read though. You are probably right. Anyone that gets paid to do anything probably likes money and usually hates african babies.
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
February 04 2011 18:25 GMT
#643
lag or not, such a sick series. Was rootin for Liquid, but shit happens!
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 18:30:08
February 04 2011 18:29 GMT
#644
On February 05 2011 03:23 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 03:19 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On February 05 2011 03:17 iNcontroL wrote:
On February 05 2011 03:09 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On February 05 2011 02:20 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
I curious why Gosucoaching uses Justin.tv over UStream. I don't stream but I was under the impression most players prefer U-Stream.


99% of them switched (NOT calling out Gosucoaching, I am not sure why they switched, just speaking in general) for $ because Justin offered a partner program before Ustream. But if you want to cater to the whole word, and you care about more then $, Ustream is superior to Justin.

Plus that's not mentioning the rampant piracy.....


loll


?


Oh. Nothing Diamond! I just found it funny that you essentially equated all Justin users to money mongering people who don't care about the world.

Sick read though. You are probably right. Anyone that gets paid to do anything probably likes money and usually hates african babies.

Incontrol 1
Diamond 0

Sometimes, though I'll admit it's a rarity, teams with monetary responsibilities utilize things like deals or sponsorships to cut costs and raise funds- allowing them to spend money elsewhere. Then, they can be criticized for that too.
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 18:32:42
February 04 2011 18:29 GMT
#645
On February 05 2011 03:23 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 03:19 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On February 05 2011 03:17 iNcontroL wrote:
On February 05 2011 03:09 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On February 05 2011 02:20 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
I curious why Gosucoaching uses Justin.tv over UStream. I don't stream but I was under the impression most players prefer U-Stream.


99% of them switched (NOT calling out Gosucoaching, I am not sure why they switched, just speaking in general) for $ because Justin offered a partner program before Ustream. But if you want to cater to the whole word, and you care about more then $, Ustream is superior to Justin.

Plus that's not mentioning the rampant piracy.....


loll


?


Oh. Nothing Diamond! I just found it funny that you essentially equated all Justin users to money mongering people who don't care about the world.

Sick read though. You are probably right. Anyone that gets paid to do anything probably likes money and usually hates african babies.


I think that may have been a slight exaggeration on what I wrote.... Liking money is nothing bad, but when it comes at the expense of an entire of continent of viewers having repeating problems for years now (Europe) then most people cannot say they went to Justin for the viewer experience. I know I have missed GCPL clanwars (loving GCPL btw) and the entire Reddit Invitational because I could not get Justin to load, and I am in the US....

Edit: How would you like it if say GOM was switching to a video provider that did not work worth a shit in the US, but it makes them some more $?
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 04 2011 18:32 GMT
#646
Yes and people have had problems with other stream services as well. I just wouldn't be dumb enough to generalize all of them as loving money and not caring about the world.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
February 04 2011 18:34 GMT
#647
On February 05 2011 03:32 iNcontroL wrote:
Yes and people have had problems with other stream services as well. I just wouldn't be dumb enough to generalize all of them as loving money and not caring about the world.


The problems with Justin and Europe are more well documented and prevalent then other streaming services.....
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
JohnWayne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States150 Posts
February 04 2011 18:34 GMT
#648
Just to add my opinion (and i have heard similar reactions on german forums) is that justin.tv is great.
I get minimal lag, and it offers the option to change the quality, which in my opinion is its greatest feature. f.e. 2 friends of mine could never watch livestreams on the other hosters, and justin.tv allows 240p streams (yes its horrible then but better than nothing) and this has been a major reaction to the GCPL streams atleast in germany. So please keep this quality upright, i really like these casts.
"Three o'clock is always too late or too early for anything you want to do." - Sartre
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
February 04 2011 18:39 GMT
#649
Where can I find game 3 for jinro vs select?
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
February 04 2011 18:40 GMT
#650
On February 05 2011 03:34 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 03:32 iNcontroL wrote:
Yes and people have had problems with other stream services as well. I just wouldn't be dumb enough to generalize all of them as loving money and not caring about the world.


The problems with Justin and Europe are more well documented and prevalent then other streaming services.....


JustinTV has been getting better over the past month. Plenty of european friends can watch streams with me now. Every stream service has issues and JustinTV does about as good as every other one and you get some money for it. Why wouldn't you switch to it?
Life is Good.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 04 2011 18:43 GMT
#651
I am trying to watch the VODs as we speak and its unwatchable considering I have waited for the VODs to load and the voices keep cutting out every few seconds. I have tried several times with part 1 and Tyler versus Nani.

It makes me want to cringe.

Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
February 04 2011 18:43 GMT
#652
On February 05 2011 03:40 Alou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 03:34 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On February 05 2011 03:32 iNcontroL wrote:
Yes and people have had problems with other stream services as well. I just wouldn't be dumb enough to generalize all of them as loving money and not caring about the world.


The problems with Justin and Europe are more well documented and prevalent then other streaming services.....


JustinTV has been getting better over the past month. Plenty of european friends can watch streams with me now. Every stream service has issues and JustinTV does about as good as every other one and you get some money for it. Why wouldn't you switch to it?


We now (ie: started just this month) receive part of our ad money from Ustream. So the question is since money is not a concern for us, why would we switch?
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
February 04 2011 18:52 GMT
#653
If possible you should setup both a ustream stream and a justinTV stream, now everyone is happy!
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 18:53:57
February 04 2011 18:53 GMT
#654
On February 05 2011 03:52 Seronei wrote:
If possible you should setup both a ustream stream and a justinTV stream, now everyone is happy!


However this either requires two streamers, or a really fast internet connection to stream two streams which none of our casters have the bandwidth to do.

Edit: I'm assuming that that was pointed at me, if not, ignore my answer!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
arioch
Profile Joined May 2010
England403 Posts
February 04 2011 18:54 GMT
#655
As a European frequent stream viewer... JustinTV is clearly worse at this point than ustream from a lag and viewing experience standpoint - although they have been improving recently it has to be said.

I am just grateful that any event is streamed, no matter what the provider though, especially when the games were as epic as the Jinro vs Select series.

We should feel lucky that we get to watch these events at all instead of prying around the personal reasons, monetary or otherwise, that organisations are choosing certain streaming providers.
Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
February 04 2011 19:11 GMT
#656
On February 05 2011 03:53 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 03:52 Seronei wrote:
If possible you should setup both a ustream stream and a justinTV stream, now everyone is happy!


However this either requires two streamers, or a really fast internet connection to stream two streams which none of our casters have the bandwidth to do.

Edit: I'm assuming that that was pointed at me, if not, ignore my answer!

Can just get someone else to restream the JustinTV stream. Will be some more delay but better than nothing.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 19:28:31
February 04 2011 19:27 GMT
#657
On February 05 2011 04:11 Seronei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 03:53 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On February 05 2011 03:52 Seronei wrote:
If possible you should setup both a ustream stream and a justinTV stream, now everyone is happy!


However this either requires two streamers, or a really fast internet connection to stream two streams which none of our casters have the bandwidth to do.

Edit: I'm assuming that that was pointed at me, if not, ignore my answer!

Can just get someone else to restream the JustinTV stream. Will be some more delay but better than nothing.


Why do that when you are happy with your video provider and have next to no viewer complaints about service issues? Also it requires still two people streaming instead of one, twice the manpower needed.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
February 04 2011 19:29 GMT
#658
On February 05 2011 03:43 StarStruck wrote:
I am trying to watch the VODs as we speak and its unwatchable considering I have waited for the VODs to load and the voices keep cutting out every few seconds. I have tried several times with part 1 and Tyler versus Nani.

It makes me want to cringe.



Yep me too. Would love to watch, but just can't.
JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
February 04 2011 19:52 GMT
#659
Ustream lags. Justin don't. I'm happy they switched.
BluePabs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 20:00:05
February 04 2011 19:59 GMT
#660
Happy to see this thread digress to a JustinTV/Ustream debate...

Overall my experience with this tournament has been awesome and I really liked how you guys took care of the technical problems right away last night while letting us know what was going on.

My only recommendation would be to not tell us if the matches are going to be live or from replays in advance. If I hear that the matches will be casted from replays I'm more likely to skip it and catch it later.

Either way I'm looking forward to tomorrow's matches!
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