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[GCPL] Mouz vs Fnatic

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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-06 01:25:52
January 28 2011 19:02 GMT
#1
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[image loading] Mouz vs [image loading] FnaticMSI

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(Z)MouzMorroW <Scrap Station> (Z)FnaticMSISen
(T)MouzStrelok <Xel Naga> (P)FnaticMSITT1
(P)MouzHasuObs <Jungle Basin> (T)FnaticMSIFenix
(P)MouzMaNa <Lost Temple> (T)FnaticMSIKawaiiRice
Ace <Delta Quadrant> Ace

Predictions
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(Z)MouzMorroW <Scrap Station> (Z)FnaticMSISen
(T)MouzStrelok <Xel Naga> (P)FnaticMSITT1
(P)MouzHasuObs <Jungle Basin> (T)FnaticMSIFenix
(P)MouzMaNa <Lost Temple> (T)FnaticMSIKawaiiRice
Ace <Delta Quadrant> Ace


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Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
January 28 2011 19:08 GMT
#2
prediction isnt biased at all . i say mouz 3-2
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
January 28 2011 19:10 GMT
#3
Predict 3:0 for Fnatic

I am not good with quotes
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 19:14:50
January 28 2011 19:14 GMT
#4
mouz 3:1

hasuobs loses
Progamer
Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
January 28 2011 19:16 GMT
#5
Predictions

MouzMorroW <Scrap Station> FnaticMSISen
MouzStrelok <Xel Naga> FnaticMSITT1
MouzHasuObs <Jungle Basin> FnaticMSIFenix
MouzMaNa <Lost Temple> FnaticMSIKawaiiRice

The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
January 28 2011 19:16 GMT
#6
Fnatic 3-2 (=
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 28 2011 19:18 GMT
#7
Prediction

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0-100 Fnatic


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"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 19:44:39
January 28 2011 19:44 GMT
#8
should be fun!!!
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
January 28 2011 19:46 GMT
#9
sick strelok!! long time no see
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
January 28 2011 19:49 GMT
#10
sen > morrow
tt1 < strelok
fenix > hasu
kawaiirice < mana
and..

mana > fenix
Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
January 28 2011 19:53 GMT
#11
As long as there are no team games Mouz has a decent chance in winning this.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 28 2011 19:58 GMT
#12
sen > morrow
tt1 = strelok (really tough and EXCITING match!)
fenix = hasu (I dunno how hasu plays.. fenix has trouble tvp I think)
kawaii < mana

Middle two matches are tough. I'd give advantage to tt1 and fenix if I had to pick 1. Could go either way though.
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
January 28 2011 20:01 GMT
#13
lol love the prediction go fnatic!
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2606 Posts
January 28 2011 20:03 GMT
#14
prediction
sen > morrow
tt1 = strelok (could go either way, but i guess, if i had to bet, i would bet on tt1)
fenix > hasuobs
kawaii < mana

3-1 fnatic wins

or if strelok wins: mouz wins 3-2

but my personal oppinion is that fnatic has the edge here^_^
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
January 28 2011 20:04 GMT
#15
morrow > sen
strelok > tt1
hasu < fenix
mana > kawaii

That's my prediction, but I think that every match can go either way.
Mouz should let Naama play instead of Hasu.
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 20:09:07
January 28 2011 20:08 GMT
#16
oops double post
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
January 28 2011 20:08 GMT
#17
On January 29 2011 05:08 backtoback wrote:
Predictions

MouzMorroW <Scrap Station> FnaticMSISen
MouzStrelok <Xel Naga> FnaticMSITT1
MouzHasuObs <Jungle Basin> FnaticMSIFenix
MouzMaNa <Lost Temple> FnaticMSIKawaiiRice

ace go either way imo but I think tt1 will go against MaNa and win

backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
January 28 2011 20:09 GMT
#18
Predictions

MouzMorroW <Scrap Station> FnaticMSISen
MouzStrelok <Xel Naga> FnaticMSITT1
MouzHasuObs <Jungle Basin> FnaticMSIFenix
MouzMaNa <Lost Temple> FnaticMSIKawaiiRice

ace go either way imo but I think tt1 will go against MaNa and win
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
January 28 2011 20:10 GMT
#19
Morrow has a decent ZvZ, but from what I've seen, Sen plays a pretty stellar ZvZ. TT1 and Fenix shouldn't have a problem cleaning up after that, though Strelok and TT1 could be close.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
January 28 2011 20:14 GMT
#20
go TT1 and kawaii! =]
iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
January 28 2011 23:28 GMT
#21
If any of you FNATIC SC2 guys ever talk to the FNATIC CoD4 team, tell DopedGoat iEchoic says hey :D
vileEchoic -- clanvile.com
strength
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States493 Posts
January 28 2011 23:42 GMT
#22
I think its gonna be 3-1 for Mouz. Sen will be the only one to win. Gonna be a good match tho =]
OCsurfeR
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States195 Posts
January 30 2011 16:10 GMT
#23
3 hours to go. Very excited.
"Your mother puts license plates in your underwear? How do you sit?" - Chris Knight, Real Genius
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
January 30 2011 16:11 GMT
#24
Mana vs Kawaii ! great games
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
Tevinhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom470 Posts
January 30 2011 16:24 GMT
#25
MouzMorroW > FnaticMSISen
MouzStrelok < FnaticMSITT1
MouzHasuObs > FnaticMSIFenix
MouzMaNa > FnaticMSIKawaiiRice

3-1 to Mouz. Team looks a lot stronger. Hate voting against sen but Morrow is pretty hot right now.
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
January 30 2011 16:34 GMT
#26
On January 29 2011 04:16 Reptilia wrote:
Predictions

MouzMorroW <Scrap Station> FnaticMSISen
MouzStrelok <Xel Naga> FnaticMSITT1
MouzHasuObs <Jungle Basin> FnaticMSIFenix
MouzMaNa <Lost Temple> FnaticMSIKawaiiRice



agreed
champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends.
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
January 30 2011 17:38 GMT
#27
hmm i feel like sen is at a slump recently hope this is the break out game. 3-2 fnatics
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
January 30 2011 17:41 GMT
#28
Why do they always do ZvZ in these clan wars??.. I think the only non mirror was dKiller vs ROOT.drewbie.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
January 30 2011 17:45 GMT
#29
cus shit station is apparently a zerg map and all the teams put their z users on it
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 30 2011 18:07 GMT
#30
Its the only map thats good for Z lol :D
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
January 30 2011 18:09 GMT
#31
fnatic would have a chance without tt1 :<<<
Progamer
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 30 2011 18:10 GMT
#32
Finally its broadcasted at a decent time!
Looking forward to this.
Off-season = best season
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
January 30 2011 18:16 GMT
#33
Naniwa just jealous Fnatic didn't resign him for their SC2 roster and letting out his anger on the protoss player who took his spot. :<<<
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
January 30 2011 18:17 GMT
#34
haha
Progamer
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
January 30 2011 18:33 GMT
#35
On January 31 2011 03:09 Naniwa wrote:
fnatic would have a chance without tt1 :<<<


lolololol

in all seriousness, kawaiirice will beat MaNa.
3-1 FNATICZ
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
January 30 2011 18:56 GMT
#36
wow dignitasnaniwa u so cute man
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
January 30 2011 18:58 GMT
#37
Go Sen!
-
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 30 2011 19:07 GMT
#38
terrible terrible lag....
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
January 30 2011 19:12 GMT
#39
no lag here

for anyone having lag , hover over the stream and pick lower quality. I believe the default is set to best. I had lag as well before lowering them.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 30 2011 19:14 GMT
#40
i agree, after setting it to 360pt, the lags stopped.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
January 30 2011 19:18 GMT
#41
Best = 1080p. Not recommended for most normal users.

TT1 why you not bringing out the imba P units for a 14 min push? I'm dissapoint. Hope the other guys will do better. Go Fnatic!!
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 30 2011 19:23 GMT
#42
On January 31 2011 04:18 Sorkoas wrote:
Best = 1080p. Not recommended for most normal users.

Normally 1080 is no problem. I have a 16k connection, often watch 5 hq streams at the same time.
Its just that justin.tv often sucks for europeans. Its the only streaming service I have problems with.
Off-season = best season
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 19:31:44
January 30 2011 19:30 GMT
#43
KawaiiRice supplyblocked/not producing units a lot.

€: MaNa too lol
A backwards poet writes inverse.
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
January 30 2011 19:32 GMT
#44
I love these casters!

Poor Mana
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 30 2011 19:36 GMT
#45
On January 31 2011 04:32 dunc wrote:
I love these casters!

Poor Mana

Is it Sheth who is is casting with Gretorp? I am guessing from the voice.
Off-season = best season
uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
January 30 2011 19:36 GMT
#46
On January 31 2011 04:23 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 04:18 Sorkoas wrote:
Best = 1080p. Not recommended for most normal users.

Normally 1080 is no problem. I have a 16k connection, often watch 5 hq streams at the same time.
Its just that justin.tv often sucks for europeans. Its the only streaming service I have problems with.

Yea, I just stopped watching because the lag is terrible.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 30 2011 19:37 GMT
#47
Eish, whoever is watching the replay is not being too smart. Very very bad ;(
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
January 30 2011 19:37 GMT
#48
Wow, that's a pretty low blow from MaNa.
Chodes
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada212 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 19:38:28
January 30 2011 19:37 GMT
#49
Drama...
this.
just.
got.
interesting.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | "Sup Son"- SeleCT"~~MMA Fighting!!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
January 30 2011 19:38 GMT
#50
On January 31 2011 04:36 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 04:32 dunc wrote:
I love these casters!

Poor Mana

Is it Sheth who is is casting with Gretorp? I am guessing from the voice.


Sheth and Gretorp are an awesome combo, wish they'd cast more stuff together tbh =)

Poor Mana lagging out again T_T

JTV forcing me to watch on 240p lol
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
January 30 2011 19:38 GMT
#51
What happened with the game? Mana disc and standard regame? or is there more to it?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
January 30 2011 19:38 GMT
#52
On January 31 2011 04:36 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 04:32 dunc wrote:
I love these casters!

Poor Mana

Is it Sheth who is is casting with Gretorp? I am guessing from the voice.


I was actually wondering too. The guy who doesn't talk a lot/keeps bringing up the sponsors has a very nice voice to listen to, lol.

Also didn't expect that from MaNa, meh
PSA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States243 Posts
January 30 2011 19:39 GMT
#53
Is it considered BM to watch the replay?
Huge fan of EG! Go IdrA, Huk, Puma, and all others. GO ASU SUN DEVILS!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 30 2011 19:40 GMT
#54
On January 31 2011 04:39 PSA wrote:
Is it considered BM to watch the replay?


After a played game no but if you disconnect from the game then watch the replay of it. Now that is very bad ;(
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
January 30 2011 19:41 GMT
#55
On January 31 2011 04:39 PSA wrote:
Is it considered BM to watch the replay?


Well considering that he dc'd, I would assume that he shouldn't be watching the replay of the game he dc'd from. If you play a game, then by all means watch the replay. But if someone prepares a build for this certain game, you shouldn't be allowed to dc and watch the replay.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
January 30 2011 19:42 GMT
#56
On January 31 2011 04:38 dunc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 04:36 Redox wrote:
On January 31 2011 04:32 dunc wrote:
I love these casters!

Poor Mana

Is it Sheth who is is casting with Gretorp? I am guessing from the voice.


I was actually wondering too. The guy who doesn't talk a lot/keeps bringing up the sponsors has a very nice voice to listen to, lol.

Also didn't expect that from MaNa, meh

Yes, it's sheth.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
January 30 2011 19:42 GMT
#57
On January 31 2011 04:41 OreoBoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 04:39 PSA wrote:
Is it considered BM to watch the replay?


Well considering that he dc'd, I would assume that he shouldn't be watching the replay of the game he dc'd from. If you play a game, then by all means watch the replay. But if someone prepares a build for this certain game, you shouldn't be allowed to dc and watch the replay.


Didn't he scout KR build with an observer very fast?
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
January 30 2011 19:43 GMT
#58
man i went to make lunch so i could take a break from studying and watch this. came back and it was on match 4 already.....
champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
January 30 2011 19:43 GMT
#59
Holy crap I just fullscreened the stream and it's so crisp! It's seriously like I'm actually in the game. I didn't know 1080p was that good.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
January 30 2011 19:45 GMT
#60
match scores?
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 19:46:01
January 30 2011 19:45 GMT
#61
On January 31 2011 04:43 Telcontar wrote:
Holy crap I just fullscreened the stream and it's so crisp! It's seriously like I'm actually in the game. I didn't know 1080p was that good.

on a 1920x1080 screen, 1080p is pretty ingame quality.

edit: go mouz!
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
January 30 2011 19:46 GMT
#62
On January 31 2011 04:42 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 04:41 OreoBoi wrote:
On January 31 2011 04:39 PSA wrote:
Is it considered BM to watch the replay?


Well considering that he dc'd, I would assume that he shouldn't be watching the replay of the game he dc'd from. If you play a game, then by all means watch the replay. But if someone prepares a build for this certain game, you shouldn't be allowed to dc and watch the replay.


Didn't he scout KR build with an observer very fast?


In this game, yes.
I'm not saying Mana learned anything he didn't know. Just that this shouldn't be happening in general. You shouldn't be allowed to dc and then start watching that replay.
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
January 30 2011 19:50 GMT
#63
Not first time MaNa does this. He's even been asking for the win after he has disconnected from games. Mouz need to teach him some proper manners for DC situations...
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
January 30 2011 19:57 GMT
#64
Not looking good for kawaii and fnatic.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
mistgun_EU
Profile Joined October 2010
309 Posts
January 30 2011 19:58 GMT
#65
Press "A", click attack destination, CTRL+click templars and spam storms!

drop in my base ? np warp in HT and zealots and cast storm!
Toss so skilled :/

User was warned for this post
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
January 30 2011 19:58 GMT
#66
On January 31 2011 04:43 zyglrox wrote:
man i went to make lunch so i could take a break from studying and watch this. came back and it was on match 4 already.....



oh lol@me matches going in different orders
champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends.
Tevinhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom470 Posts
January 30 2011 19:59 GMT
#67
What's the current score?
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
January 30 2011 19:59 GMT
#68
He was DCed and watched the replay anyways? That's basically a form of cheating despite there not being a formal rule against it.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 30 2011 20:00 GMT
#69
+ Show Spoiler [Score] +
0-2 Mouz is leading
MouzStrelok <Xel Naga> FnaticMSITT1
MouzMaNa <Lost Temple> FnaticMSIKawaiiRice
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
January 30 2011 20:02 GMT
#70
On January 31 2011 04:59 hmunkey wrote:
He was DCed and watched the replay anyways? That's basically a form of cheating despite there not being a formal rule against it.

That's definitely not cheating, if there is no rule.

I didn't know that it's even considered BM. For me after a disc it's simply a Bo2 with a draw in the first game, most (almost all) players change their strategies in the next game.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 30 2011 20:05 GMT
#71
On January 31 2011 05:02 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 04:59 hmunkey wrote:
He was DCed and watched the replay anyways? That's basically a form of cheating despite there not being a formal rule against it.

That's definitely not cheating, if there is no rule.

I didn't know that it's even considered BM. For me after a disc it's simply a Bo2 with a draw in the first game, most (almost all) players change their strategies in the next game.


There is a rule, that's why there was an issue...
mistgun_EU
Profile Joined October 2010
309 Posts
January 30 2011 20:13 GMT
#72
poor sheth getting ignored
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
January 30 2011 20:14 GMT
#73
On January 31 2011 05:13 mistgun_EU wrote:
poor sheth getting ignored

What are you talking about? This day9 conspiracy theory is gold.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
January 30 2011 20:15 GMT
#74
sheth's voice is awesome..
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
January 30 2011 20:16 GMT
#75
On January 31 2011 04:58 mistgun_EU wrote:
Press "A", click attack destination, CTRL+click templars and spam storms!

drop in my base ? np warp in HT and zealots and cast storm!
Toss so skilled :/


We really don't need this. Can put different units and ability names in the same sort of sentences for every single race.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 30 2011 20:16 GMT
#76
Sheth is awesome btw <3
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
January 30 2011 20:17 GMT
#77
On January 31 2011 05:02 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 04:59 hmunkey wrote:
He was DCed and watched the replay anyways? That's basically a form of cheating despite there not being a formal rule against it.

That's definitely not cheating, if there is no rule.

I didn't know that it's even considered BM. For me after a disc it's simply a Bo2 with a draw in the first game, most (almost all) players change their strategies in the next game.


Players shouldn't have to change their builds after the other player discs. A player is going to use their best build for the map the first time around, and if someone discs before builds are really revealed, or after responding in a way that gives their opponent an advantage, they shouldn't be able to go back and look again at the replay and then be prepared to counter whatever the other player was doing.

Sheth changed his build after the disc, but he shouldn't have had to since it was Mana that disconnected.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 20:22:27
January 30 2011 20:20 GMT
#78
On January 31 2011 05:17 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 05:02 vdale wrote:
On January 31 2011 04:59 hmunkey wrote:
He was DCed and watched the replay anyways? That's basically a form of cheating despite there not being a formal rule against it.

That's definitely not cheating, if there is no rule.

I didn't know that it's even considered BM. For me after a disc it's simply a Bo2 with a draw in the first game, most (almost all) players change their strategies in the next game.


Players shouldn't have to change their builds after the other player discs. A player is going to use their best build for the map the first time around, and if someone discs before builds are really revealed, or after responding in a way that gives their opponent an advantage, they shouldn't be able to go back and look again at the replay and then be prepared to counter whatever the other player was doing.

Sheth changed his build after the disc, but he shouldn't have had to since it was Mana that disconnected.


Sheth is commentating, it was Kawaii playing.

And not that I agree with watching a replay on a dropped game, but Mana had thoroughly scouted the whole build with an observer already so it was certainly known.

You don't have to change your build in the event of a regame either, it can be just as much of a bluff to do the same thing on the chance your opponent gambles on you changing it up.

Hope this Sen vs Morrow game is good, but I'm really not fond of ZvZs
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
January 30 2011 20:21 GMT
#79
Right now you generally don't need to watch the replay to identify a build as you can just look it up in the build order game summary Sure you don't see building placement so some stuff isn't identified easily but 7 pool for example is.
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
January 30 2011 20:21 GMT
#80
Anyone know what Sen is up to these days? Is he still in Korea? Also what does FoanWang mean?
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
January 30 2011 20:24 GMT
#81
dang mouz crushed
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 20:24:55
January 30 2011 20:24 GMT
#82
Well that was quick, well done MorroW and Mouz ^^

I'm guessing if Fenix has been in hospital for his hand they won't be playing the 4th
mistgun_EU
Profile Joined October 2010
309 Posts
January 30 2011 20:25 GMT
#83
Cant gretorp play against hasuobs ?
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
January 30 2011 20:28 GMT
#84
On January 31 2011 04:58 mistgun_EU wrote:
Press "A", click attack destination, CTRL+click templars and spam storms!

drop in my base ? np warp in HT and zealots and cast storm!
Toss so skilled :/

lol these snappy sarcastic comments lose a lot of their snap when they include a semicomplicated step by step instructions
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misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3238 Posts
January 30 2011 20:31 GMT
#85
every other game has reconnection code. there could be a game mode besides melee on custom maps ("pro mode") that enforces reconnection once logged on to bnet and screwing up the replay if the person leaves the game (the dced doesnt have acess to it and while the other waits he cant leave the game either, else he screws his replay too).
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
January 30 2011 20:33 GMT
#86
On January 31 2011 05:02 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 04:59 hmunkey wrote:
He was DCed and watched the replay anyways? That's basically a form of cheating despite there not being a formal rule against it.

That's definitely not cheating, if there is no rule.

I didn't know that it's even considered BM. For me after a disc it's simply a Bo2 with a draw in the first game, most (almost all) players change their strategies in the next game.


Agreed. The game's over. People watch each other's replays all the time. Why would this be different.
Hello=)
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
January 30 2011 20:34 GMT
#87
I would just like to apologize for saying anything bad mannered about Mouz on the stream. At the time I was frustrated because I was being told one thing and Mouz was telling me something else. So I apologize for taking my frustration out on Mouz and their admin Nova. I really enjoyed watching their games. I can't wait to see next weeks. Hope you accept my apology!
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
January 30 2011 20:37 GMT
#88
On January 31 2011 05:34 Sheth wrote:
I would just like to apologize for saying anything bad mannered about Mouz on the stream. At the time I was frustrated because I was being told one thing and Mouz was telling me something else. So I apologize for taking my frustration out on Mouz and their admin Nova. I really enjoyed watching their games. I can't wait to see next weeks. Hope you accept my apology!

Nova is not an admin or smth. I believe its just Mouz shared team account (guess hasu played on it)
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 30 2011 20:38 GMT
#89
not supringly results, Mouz is as strong as they were in Brood War
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
January 30 2011 20:52 GMT
#90
so awesome MorroW vs Sen!
That's the only game I wana see, but the whole cw should be nice.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
January 30 2011 20:56 GMT
#91
On January 31 2011 05:52 Shinta) wrote:
so awesome MorroW vs Sen!
That's the only game I wana see, but the whole cw should be nice.

It's already over

Results:
+ Show Spoiler +

Strelok > TT1
Mana > KawaiiRice
Morrow > Sen

My predictions were right :D

hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
January 30 2011 21:20 GMT
#92
GG. Mouz so strong. =]
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
January 30 2011 21:22 GMT
#93
Geez. Wasn't expecting a completely walkover by Mouz but congrats to them! I was kind of hoping fnatic would put up for of a fight hehe

Until next time i suppose
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Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
January 30 2011 21:36 GMT
#94
my prediction came true!
Progamer
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
January 30 2011 21:43 GMT
#95
On January 31 2011 06:36 Naniwa wrote:
my prediction came true!


Nice. Shows how strong Dignitas is to actually take mouz down w/o you and Sjow.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
January 30 2011 21:56 GMT
#96
On January 31 2011 06:36 Naniwa wrote:
my prediction came true!

tnx for the belief <3)
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
January 30 2011 22:01 GMT
#97
On January 31 2011 06:43 fishinguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 06:36 Naniwa wrote:
my prediction came true!


Nice. Shows how strong Dignitas is to actually take mouz down w/o you and Sjow.

mouz played without strelok and naama, though. Strelok would also be probably the Ace-Player and he is a beast in TvT.

Anyways, I like both teams and I hope they will keep on winning .
HenL
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway111 Posts
January 30 2011 22:09 GMT
#98
Games should auto save when someone is disconnecting. The fact that there's no save function in SC2 at all is pretty damn sad.
Turing
Profile Joined April 2010
United States211 Posts
January 30 2011 23:38 GMT
#99
Surprised by the results, I expected Sen to beat Morrow. GG's though.
Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 00:06:16
January 31 2011 00:05 GMT
#100
Wow, didn't see that coming.
OCsurfeR
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States195 Posts
January 31 2011 00:19 GMT
#101
On January 31 2011 07:09 HenL wrote:
Games should auto save when someone is disconnecting. The fact that there's no save function in SC2 at all is pretty damn sad.


I agree, you should have the option to recontinue a game when somebody DC's out. That'd be a Gosu feature.
"Your mother puts license plates in your underwear? How do you sit?" - Chris Knight, Real Genius
simtom
Profile Joined May 2010
24 Posts
January 31 2011 09:53 GMT
#102
On January 31 2011 09:19 OCsurfeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 07:09 HenL wrote:
Games should auto save when someone is disconnecting. The fact that there's no save function in SC2 at all is pretty damn sad.


I agree, you should have the option to recontinue a game when somebody DC's out. That'd be a Gosu feature.


Yeah, it really cant be that hard for blizzard to implement.. you can save in singleplayer, so why not multiplayer when someone drops.. Lots of other games have it, and it makes DCs not an issue since you just restore the match and play on as if nothing happened.
freddergeier
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany140 Posts
January 31 2011 14:57 GMT
#103
Cool League with great games, but justin.tv is really slow for me. It tooks like 2 hours to load on of these VODs
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
January 31 2011 15:12 GMT
#104
On January 31 2011 23:57 freddergeier wrote:
Cool League with great games, but justin.tv is really slow for me. It tooks like 2 hours to load on of these VODs


Same, its been an issue with europe and justin.tv for a long time i think
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