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SweetNJoshSauce
Profile Joined July 2010
United States468 Posts
December 30 2010 21:37 GMT
#1321
as much as I like MC, it was nice to watch a terran destroy him. Decent games too
eu.xen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany352 Posts
December 30 2010 22:43 GMT
#1322
anyone have a VOD link to the finals in english ?
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 00:18:48
December 31 2010 00:16 GMT
#1323
On December 31 2010 07:43 Donttazemebro wrote:
anyone have a VOD link to the finals in english ?


own3d ... op....

edit = own3d = rage quit tv
EscXephon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia5 Posts
December 31 2010 01:36 GMT
#1324
On December 31 2010 04:36 SeR3NiTy wrote:
Full replays pack on FTP *cause hotfile is cute but not that great =P* : ftp://ftp.jeux-strategie.com/StarCraft2/replays/Kapersky-2010.zip

Sorry if it's already posted somewhere in the topic, but it's not in the first message.


Cheers for the replay pack. now to watch some awesome games :D
Ipp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States456 Posts
December 31 2010 04:07 GMT
#1325
On December 31 2010 07:43 Donttazemebro wrote:
anyone have a VOD link to the finals in english ?


Replays are being uploaded now, they will appear in the link located in OP. Unfortunately I have to upload these manually so it will take a few more hours to finish uploading 8gb.
http://youtube.com/RageQuitTV
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
December 31 2010 06:51 GMT
#1326
On December 31 2010 03:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 02:39 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Serious question though, what did TOP do that was so different? The base trade was kind of a luck situation for game 1 so ignore that. The 2nd game was the standard Raven/Banshee push (more of a Jinro style than say Polt). The 3rd/4th game was standard MMM+vikings. I genuinely think that TOP had simply superior mechanics overall which won him the series as surprising as that sounds against MC.

I really don't see it the same way. What you considered 'standard' only happened after Top had already secured an advantage by playing (also strategically) better not by being mechanically superior.

In game 3 he got a big advantage by holding off the Void Rays brilliantly and having his expansion running safely way before MC did. Game 4 he countered with 6 marines which allowed him to get a quick gold expansion up and MC was fighting an uphill battle from that point on. MC never even got his gold up in that game I don't see how you can point at this games and say it was standard so mechanics must have made the difference. Every single game that lead up to standard armies Top went into that stage with an advantage due to strategy.

Contrary to what many here believe losing 0-4 does not make Top the better and superior player. It makes him the better and superior player today. Nothing else. To really say something about who is better you need to look at a much larger sample of games.

I agree with this. TOP and MC being teammates, they probably played hundreds of games against each other and it is probably pretty clear who is the better one overall.

Probably Jinro and Ret know who is the better one. Something tells me it is MC.
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
December 31 2010 07:10 GMT
#1327
On December 31 2010 15:51 Xxavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 03:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On December 31 2010 02:39 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Serious question though, what did TOP do that was so different? The base trade was kind of a luck situation for game 1 so ignore that. The 2nd game was the standard Raven/Banshee push (more of a Jinro style than say Polt). The 3rd/4th game was standard MMM+vikings. I genuinely think that TOP had simply superior mechanics overall which won him the series as surprising as that sounds against MC.

I really don't see it the same way. What you considered 'standard' only happened after Top had already secured an advantage by playing (also strategically) better not by being mechanically superior.

In game 3 he got a big advantage by holding off the Void Rays brilliantly and having his expansion running safely way before MC did. Game 4 he countered with 6 marines which allowed him to get a quick gold expansion up and MC was fighting an uphill battle from that point on. MC never even got his gold up in that game I don't see how you can point at this games and say it was standard so mechanics must have made the difference. Every single game that lead up to standard armies Top went into that stage with an advantage due to strategy.

Contrary to what many here believe losing 0-4 does not make Top the better and superior player. It makes him the better and superior player today. Nothing else. To really say something about who is better you need to look at a much larger sample of games.

I agree with this. TOP and MC being teammates, they probably played hundreds of games against each other and it is probably pretty clear who is the better one overall.

Probably Jinro and Ret know who is the better one. Something tells me it is MC.


Apparently TOP is one of the best in practice with MC and Zenio but he doesn't perform as well in important matches (GSL/Dreamhack). The only instance besides this tournament where he has done well is the TSL vs oGs showmatch where he takes out Tester/Clide/FD in a row.

SC2 player for Flash eSports. twitch.tv/nether_drake, https://twitter.com/bryan_sum, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bryan-Drake-Sum/468389706519567
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
December 31 2010 07:48 GMT
#1328
BIG shoutout to razy, RoX.KIS.Bruce, Kaspersky Laboratory and goodgame.ru & sc2tv.ru for bringing a kick ass holiday tournament hope to hear more from all our Russian Friends, happy new year tonight <3 <3 <3
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
December 31 2010 10:46 GMT
#1329
GGurface is casting this @youtube
http://www.youtube.com/user/ggurface
MC for president
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9439 Posts
December 31 2010 12:27 GMT
#1330
This is how I believe terran has to play protoss. Your units are not cost effective in fights, but you abuse the immoblity of the toss by taking more expos and harasssing and there by winning.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
December 31 2010 15:07 GMT
#1331
I don't understand why MC didn't get more Stalkers and research Blink. Don't all of us know with weak ass Protoss air that Blink Stalkers are what you need to deal with Vikings? Surly MC does. Maybe he was just exhausted and Tops aggression through him off I don't know but that was not the best MC we have seen. Also his FF placement was weak allowing Top to either escape or have too many units inside FFs. Not to take anything away from Top who played perfect but MC was not "top" of his game. I doubt you'll ever see another 4-0 again.
MC for president
Phaint
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada211 Posts
December 31 2010 21:11 GMT
#1332
MC lost all his games just as how I lose my games vs Terran. Exact same unit composition timing pushes with less than optimal forcefields = lose. Main reason I get bored of playing the game and switch to other games lately.
Fen1kz
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation216 Posts
January 05 2011 19:33 GMT
#1333
On December 31 2010 04:36 SeR3NiTy wrote:
Full replays pack on FTP *cause hotfile is cute but not that great =P* : ftp://ftp.jeux-strategie.com/StarCraft2/replays/Kapersky-2010.zip

Sorry if it's already posted somewhere in the topic, but it's not in the first message.


it sohuld be in a 1st post
Escapist
Profile Joined July 2010
Portugal548 Posts
January 08 2011 10:22 GMT
#1334
I've picked up a couple of series from this event so i'll leave the matches here for whoever might be interested on checking them out:

oGsZenio (Z) VS mouzStrelok (T) G1 [Kaspersky]



oGsZenio (Z) VS mouzStrelok (T) G2 [Kaspersky]



oGsZenio (Z) VS mouzStrelok (T) G3 [Kaspersky]




WhiteRa -DuckloadRa- (P) VS mouzNaama (T) G1 [Kaspersky]



WhiteRa -DuckloadRa- (P) VS mouzNaama (T) G2 [Kaspersky]



WhiteRa -DuckloadRa- (P) VS mouzNaama (T) G3 [Kaspersky]

EU / US / KR English Shoutcasted Matches 720p HD -> http://www.youtube.com/user/xHydrax
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