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PanzerKing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States483 Posts
December 24 2010 10:47 GMT
#1841
On December 24 2010 19:44 Essentia wrote:
risk your series on cheese vs a player way worst than him.....makes sense


Why is Genius better than MKP? Because he goes for greedy, high-tech builds? His micro is probably somewhat weaker than MKPs, and MKP has fantastic macro, probably close to or equal to Genius. They both have incredible game sense and excellent builds - why is MKP not just worse, but "way worse?"
http://tkrmx.blogspot.com/
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 24 2010 10:47 GMT
#1842
On December 24 2010 19:45 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 19:44 zhurai wrote:
On December 24 2010 19:43 FataLe wrote:
On December 24 2010 19:42 MassHysteria wrote:
no MC did it in blistering sands i believe

He probably did it there too.

yea, ogsMC did the proxy gate at blistering sands vs MarineKing.

o_O I was talking about Void rays.


oh lol then you are right it was LT
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
December 24 2010 10:47 GMT
#1843
Imo some of you are lucky no mod is in this thread as of right now. Don't call the players names and whine about balance pls.

Was a great hold by foxer and judging by results I agree that it's unfair to call him a cheeser because he has follow-ups most of the time
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
December 24 2010 10:47 GMT
#1844
Poll: Who will win in this series?

MarineKingPrime.WE (20)
 
83%

choyafOu (4)
 
17%

24 total votes

Your vote: Who will win in this series?

(Vote): MarineKingPrime.WE
(Vote): choyafOu



Vote Vote Vote
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
December 24 2010 10:48 GMT
#1845
On December 24 2010 19:44 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 19:42 Black Gun wrote:
seriously guys, stop calling MK cheesy. his strength is clearly his superb marine micro. why shouldnt he use this to his advantage by choosing builds that tend to make the games come down to marine vs X micro duels where he reigns supreme? he is playing to his strengths.

I'm the best in the world at cannon rushing. I play to my strength. I don't cheese.

ur cannon rushing will never get u to a gsl finals though. cheese is defined as an early game strategy that has a high chance to win u the game if not scouted, and a high chance to lose the game if it is scouted/the opponent knows its coming. well, the players know whats coming when they play against foxer, but he still manages to win with his style.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
razamanaz
Profile Joined August 2010
271 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 10:49:06
December 24 2010 10:48 GMT
#1846
On December 24 2010 19:47 Patriot.dlk wrote:
Imo some of you are lucky no mod is in this thread as of right now. Don't call the players names and whine about balance pls.

Was a great hold by foxer and judging by results I agree that it's unfair to call him a cheeser because he has follow-ups most of the time


His follow up - more marines . At least it was in some game in gsl :D
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4556 Posts
December 24 2010 10:48 GMT
#1847
On December 24 2010 19:46 bearhug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 19:39 FataLe wrote:
On December 24 2010 19:36 ZeNd0kUn wrote:
Marine King walled off faking some tech play and inviting Void Rays. But comon you don't go Void Rays against Marine King. He's going to make Marines.

... it worked for MC.


But only once for MC and that time MK's main army was way out of position: it took them 35 seconds to come back to the main base to defense the VRs. Otherwise, MK would have defeated that attack and he would be far ahead(2 base vs 1 base)

Very perceptive, well done.
hi. big fan.
ch0c0b0fr34k
Profile Joined October 2010
United States452 Posts
December 24 2010 10:48 GMT
#1848
I say MKP. choya is good, but he's not as good as Genius.
Pew pew!
Tears.Of.The.Moon
Profile Joined September 2009
Slovenia715 Posts
December 24 2010 10:48 GMT
#1849
Well that was a fail rush.
ヽ(´ー`)┌
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 10:50:24
December 24 2010 10:49 GMT
#1850
DT rush I think

nvm...blink action...woot now we talking
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 10:50:23
December 24 2010 10:49 GMT
#1851
OMG marineking made a tech build!!

edit: oops meant mech play
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Kokujin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States456 Posts
December 24 2010 10:49 GMT
#1852
those are no ordinary marines
DuckSausage
Profile Joined March 2009
United States83 Posts
December 24 2010 10:50 GMT
#1853
Marine King, the genius terran!
Do not want.
razamanaz
Profile Joined August 2010
271 Posts
December 24 2010 10:50 GMT
#1854
Im starting to lose hope for toss :S . secretly i hope that everyone loses and then tester 5-0 terran , but that is as likely as world peace ;/
odaxium
Profile Joined October 2010
United States356 Posts
December 24 2010 10:51 GMT
#1855
choya's not looking too good
Tears.Of.The.Moon
Profile Joined September 2009
Slovenia715 Posts
December 24 2010 10:51 GMT
#1856
There are to many tanks for choya to hold this.
ヽ(´ー`)┌
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4556 Posts
December 24 2010 10:51 GMT
#1857
On December 24 2010 19:48 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 19:44 FataLe wrote:
On December 24 2010 19:42 Black Gun wrote:
seriously guys, stop calling MK cheesy. his strength is clearly his superb marine micro. why shouldnt he use this to his advantage by choosing builds that tend to make the games come down to marine vs X micro duels where he reigns supreme? he is playing to his strengths.

I'm the best in the world at cannon rushing. I play to my strength. I don't cheese.

ur cannon rushing will never get u to a gsl finals though. cheese is defined as an early game strategy that has a high chance to win u the game if not scouted, and a high chance to lose the game if it is scouted/the opponent knows its coming. well, the players know whats coming when they play against foxer, but he still manages to win with his style.

That has a lot to do with T's early game being very strong, that doesn't disregard the fact that most people consider it cheese or gimmicky at the least.
hi. big fan.
ch0c0b0fr34k
Profile Joined October 2010
United States452 Posts
December 24 2010 10:52 GMT
#1858
gogo MKP all-kill protoss! we need terran early game nerfs!
Pew pew!
Mainland
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada551 Posts
December 24 2010 10:52 GMT
#1859
That's a great strategy for that MU and map by MKP.
Stratchka
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria165 Posts
December 24 2010 10:52 GMT
#1860
Beautiful game by Marineking! Completely outclassed Choya...
StarTale 화이팅!!!
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