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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
December 03 2010 12:55 GMT
#3881
On December 03 2010 21:54 Firereaver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 21:54 mizU wrote:
On December 03 2010 21:53 mati wrote:
talking about switch...

what about NaDa then? he still is top class on BW


Nada is DAMN good at SC1 and SC2.

QFT. You cant beat a genius tornado....


That statement is just totally negated by his absence in this season.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
mati
Profile Joined October 2010
Argentina114 Posts
December 03 2010 12:55 GMT
#3882
On December 03 2010 21:54 mizU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 21:53 mati wrote:
talking about switch...

what about NaDa then? he still is top class on BW


Nada is DAMN good at SC1 and SC2.


i know, i was refearing to a prev arguement, about some "mediocre" players from BW rocking on SC2 while some BW legend arent
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
December 03 2010 12:55 GMT
#3883
6 gate push incoming.
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
December 03 2010 12:55 GMT
#3884
On December 03 2010 21:53 Shakes wrote:
Oh man, Artosis says what everyone is thinking "You also don't want to be an IdrA"


Props to him for actually saying it! Maybe he's breaking free from IdrA's hip, they've been like joined twins the past year. Artosis fighting!
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
December 03 2010 12:55 GMT
#3885
On December 03 2010 21:50 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 21:46 Firereaver wrote:
On December 03 2010 21:45 Hot_Bid wrote:
On December 03 2010 21:43 Plexa wrote:
On December 03 2010 21:42 MrCon wrote:
On December 03 2010 21:40 Cyanocyst wrote:
Hmm Fruitdealer (cool) Mediocre Sc1 player.

Nestea Mediocre Sc1 player.

Jinro Mediocre Sc1 player.

OgsMC Mediocre Sc1 player.

JulyZerg, Top Tier Sc1 player.


Werid.

Yeah but mediocre is relative. It's easy to be mediocre in bw because the level is so high there. But mediocre in bw is still like top 5%, easy.

July was mediocre when he retired

Seriously, Iron's (MC) level when switching to SC2 was well higher than anyone else in that list, though we're not really sure about FD because he really could've been a lot better at BW but retired. And since Jinro never went to Korea to train on a pro team we have no idea how good he could have been either.

Which means MVP must be even better??


Probably not, despite Woongjin playing him often, MVP wasn't really good at anything but having good physicals (APM). Pretty much a guy with lots of potential but never made anything out of it.

I honestly think Iron, despite losing everything on TV, was the strongest person to switch to SC2.


MVP was preety good possibly the best player skillwise that has switched from BW . He even won Flash in macro game and you cant beat Flash in a tvt unless you are really good.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
December 03 2010 12:56 GMT
#3886
Choya faking a 4 gate all-in I guess - could work out brilliantly if MVP doesn't attack asap.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 03 2010 12:56 GMT
#3887
On December 03 2010 21:54 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 21:53 Shakes wrote:
Oh man, Artosis says what everyone is thinking "You also don't want to be an IdrA"

I feel like an outcast. I have never cheesed in Starcraft.

That makes us two.

I probably would start doing it once in a while if I played competetively though, now I'm just playing to get better.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
December 03 2010 12:56 GMT
#3888
On December 03 2010 21:55 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 21:54 Firereaver wrote:
On December 03 2010 21:54 mizU wrote:
On December 03 2010 21:53 mati wrote:
talking about switch...

what about NaDa then? he still is top class on BW


Nada is DAMN good at SC1 and SC2.

QFT. You cant beat a genius tornado....


That statement is just totally negated by his absence in this season.


Although his absence in this season is negated by his S-Class.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
December 03 2010 12:56 GMT
#3889
dont tell me choya is blocked!
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
progrezzion
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore11 Posts
December 03 2010 12:56 GMT
#3890
POLT's "lost" in the second is a ridiculous "mistake" the more i think about it. He SCANNED and saw what jinro had :2 siege tanks 1 unsiege vikings n marines. Why would a player who displayed great tactical thinking against boxer made a decision to attack into that with 4 tanks n 1 viking he doesn't even have unit advantage. Its just shady.
Teeny
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria885 Posts
December 03 2010 12:56 GMT
#3891
interesting results!
grats Jinro! well deserved =)
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
December 03 2010 12:56 GMT
#3892
MVP sure likes stim timing attacks :/
kmkkmk
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany418 Posts
December 03 2010 12:56 GMT
#3893
dude there is no ramp on this map, at least none that helps you.
oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
December 03 2010 12:56 GMT
#3894
I really like these 2 gate stalker expands in PvT.
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
December 03 2010 12:57 GMT
#3895
MVP with the starsense....
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
December 03 2010 12:57 GMT
#3896
On December 03 2010 21:50 progrezzion wrote:
POLT prime's "lost" in the second is a ridiculous "mistake" the more i think about it. he SCANNED and saw what jinro had 2 siege tanks 1 unsiege vikings n marines. Why would a player who displayed great tactical thinking against boxer made a decision to attack into that with 4 tanks n 1 viking he doesn't even have unit advantage. Its just strange just saying.


Maybe you should watch day9's 100th episode and how he described making a big mistake in a big competition. It isn't strange at all that players screw up.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
December 03 2010 12:57 GMT
#3897
mvp waited too long. gg
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
December 03 2010 12:57 GMT
#3898
On December 03 2010 21:55 Scorch wrote:
Why don't terrans build a depot at the back entrance?


Doesn't matter if 1 unit gets sniped, matters if SD gets sniped.
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
December 03 2010 12:57 GMT
#3899
Wow, who saw this coming?
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 13:01:57
December 03 2010 12:57 GMT
#3900
On December 03 2010 21:53 mati wrote:
talking about switch...

what about NaDa then? he still is top class on BW


Nada hasn't been good at Brood War like ever since he lost to Jangbi in the Lost Saga MSL. His last Brood War games showed us that he struggled against Yellow, managed to beat Hyvaa, and got completely toyed with by Kal.

He'll probably improve (he has already) in SC2 since he probably has renewed interest in the game so who knows what will happen (will he become the best terran again? remains to be seen but I doubt it).

On December 03 2010 21:55 SkelA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 21:50 Womwomwom wrote:
On December 03 2010 21:46 Firereaver wrote:
On December 03 2010 21:45 Hot_Bid wrote:
On December 03 2010 21:43 Plexa wrote:
On December 03 2010 21:42 MrCon wrote:
On December 03 2010 21:40 Cyanocyst wrote:
Hmm Fruitdealer (cool) Mediocre Sc1 player.

Nestea Mediocre Sc1 player.

Jinro Mediocre Sc1 player.

OgsMC Mediocre Sc1 player.

JulyZerg, Top Tier Sc1 player.


Werid.

Yeah but mediocre is relative. It's easy to be mediocre in bw because the level is so high there. But mediocre in bw is still like top 5%, easy.

July was mediocre when he retired

Seriously, Iron's (MC) level when switching to SC2 was well higher than anyone else in that list, though we're not really sure about FD because he really could've been a lot better at BW but retired. And since Jinro never went to Korea to train on a pro team we have no idea how good he could have been either.

Which means MVP must be even better??


Probably not, despite Woongjin playing him often, MVP wasn't really good at anything but having good physicals (APM). Pretty much a guy with lots of potential but never made anything out of it.

I honestly think Iron, despite losing everything on TV, was the strongest person to switch to SC2.


MVP was preety good possibly the best player skillwise that has switched from BW . He even won Flash in macro game and you cant beat Flash in a tvt unless you are really good.


You have to remember that was the period where Flash was really struggling with TvT. Even Midas decisively ruined Flash in the MSL during that time.

He basically had a hot streak during that time where he won a lot of games and a lot of people were playing poorly but his whole career as a whole was pretty weak.
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