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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
November 16 2010 18:06 GMT
#21
Good job writing this up, I think the scoring system is much simpler than you think.

You get 1 point for each round you qualify to, including the RO64, and 2 points if you are the grand champion, so you get

ro64-1
ro32-2
ro16-3
ro8-4
ro4-5
ro2-6
champion - 8

simple as that.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
November 16 2010 18:09 GMT
#22
On November 17 2010 01:54 SeeDLiNg wrote:
I LOVE Idra... but he will not make S-Class this season. his zvz is trash, it's no secret. did you look at how many zergs qualified? Unless he gets a strait run of Ts, or gets a couple of the 10 or so elusive protoss, he will not make S

or unless he works on nothing but zvz of course (which i'm hoping for) ^^,


He had no practice partners for ZvZ, now he has Ret among others. Plus thats a stupid assumption to say he has bad ZvZ therefore he wont make s-class

He is basically guaranteed to make S class even if he loses in RO64, if he gets into RO32 then the chances of him not making S are less than 2% probably.
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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
November 16 2010 18:09 GMT
#23
I think it needed to be repeated since a -lot- of people don't understand it, but there is a good topic already on this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=164582
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
November 16 2010 18:13 GMT
#24
Nice work OP, thanks.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
November 16 2010 18:13 GMT
#25
On November 17 2010 03:09 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 01:54 SeeDLiNg wrote:
I LOVE Idra... but he will not make S-Class this season. his zvz is trash, it's no secret. did you look at how many zergs qualified? Unless he gets a strait run of Ts, or gets a couple of the 10 or so elusive protoss, he will not make S

or unless he works on nothing but zvz of course (which i'm hoping for) ^^,


He had no practice partners for ZvZ, now he has Ret among others. Plus thats a stupid assumption to say he has bad ZvZ therefore he wont make s-class

He is basically guaranteed to make S class even if he loses in RO64, if he gets into RO32 then the chances of him not making S are less than 2% probably.


Actually, I'm fairly certain it is impossible for IdrA not to make S-class. He didn't even have to qualify.

The important thing (the one thing that could have stopped him) was that SanZenith, TankboyPrime, AND LegalMind all failed to qualify. In a nightmare doom-scenario, SanZenith, TankboyPrime, Leenock, LegalMind, and a few others could have ALL made it to the Round of 16 and then lost (moving on would have given them S-Class in a different way).

Now, there just aren't enough players to create the "nightmare doom-scenario". Even if that happened with all remaining players, IdrA would still barely scrape by.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
November 16 2010 18:17 GMT
#26
On November 17 2010 03:06 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Good job writing this up, I think the scoring system is much simpler than you think.

You get 1 point for each round you qualify to, including the RO64, and 2 points if you are the grand champion, so you get

ro64-1
ro32-2
ro16-3
ro8-4
ro4-5
ro2-6
champion - 8

simple as that.

This, but not sure if they use points for this. Rather we know that they are using ranks. The same concept still stands though. Each time you get to a new round or qualify again is a promotion.
Obviously HopeTorture has the highest rank after which Fruitdealer comes.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 18:22:41
November 16 2010 18:20 GMT
#27
On November 17 2010 03:06 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Good job writing this up, I think the scoring system is much simpler than you think.

You get 1 point for each round you qualify to, including the RO64, and 2 points if you are the grand champion, so you get

ro64-1
ro32-2
ro16-3
ro8-4
ro4-5
ro2-6
champion - 8

simple as that.


if it's actually stated that it's that simple then that's cool, but i'm not sure it's actually been stated anywhere officially, correct me if i'm wrong.

edit - crossposted with above - do we actually know whether the ranks actually mean a thing with respect to this, or are just something to make the casts look prettier
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shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
November 16 2010 18:42 GMT
#28
On November 17 2010 03:20 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 03:06 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Good job writing this up, I think the scoring system is much simpler than you think.

You get 1 point for each round you qualify to, including the RO64, and 2 points if you are the grand champion, so you get

ro64-1
ro32-2
ro16-3
ro8-4
ro4-5
ro2-6
champion - 8

simple as that.


if it's actually stated that it's that simple then that's cool, but i'm not sure it's actually been stated anywhere officially, correct me if i'm wrong.

edit - crossposted with above - do we actually know whether the ranks actually mean a thing with respect to this, or are just something to make the casts look prettier

It's because they stated top8 of each season and they gave ranks and stuff with it that people calculated the ranks and stuff. Basically each round or ro64 qualification = promotion and winning the tournament = 2 ranks increase in promotion.
The concept is simple. So giving points on each rank/round of xx apearance is the most simplistic one.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Kagami-sama
Profile Joined September 2010
460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 18:46:59
November 16 2010 18:46 GMT
#29
So CheckPrime, IdrA and oGsTheWind are practically guaranteed an S-class spot by qualifying to GSL again, or am I reading this incorrectly?

The system confuses me, but it seems fair to the players who put in the effort to participate in all the GSL open seasons as well as those who were prepared enough to go the distance in a single GSL season.

I would still like to see TLO with an S-class ranking eventually, though.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
November 16 2010 18:49 GMT
#30
On November 17 2010 03:46 Kagami-sama wrote:
So CheckPrime, IdrA and oGsTheWind are practically guaranteed an S-class spot, or am I reading this incorrectly?

The system confuses me, but it seems fair to the players who put in the effort to participate in all the GSL open seasons as well as those who were prepared enough to go the distance in a single GSL season.

I would still like to see TLO with an S-class ranking eventually, though.

You are correct. SanZenith is also guaranteed an S-class spot, not sure why it is listed differently in the OP. He had a Ro16 finish and then a Ro32 finish, tying him with EG.IdrA and oGsTheWind.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
November 16 2010 18:49 GMT
#31
On November 17 2010 03:46 Kagami-sama wrote:
So CheckPrime, IdrA and oGsTheWind are practically guaranteed an S-class spot by qualifying to GSL again, or am I reading this incorrectly?

The system confuses me, but it seems fair to the players who put in the effort to participate in all the GSL open seasons as well as those who were prepared enough to go the distance in a single GSL season.

I would still like to see TLO with an S-class ranking eventually, though.


i'd like to say it right now, i highly doubt TLO will ever become S-class. Tons of people will disagree but that is just my opinion.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
November 16 2010 18:51 GMT
#32
On November 17 2010 03:49 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 03:46 Kagami-sama wrote:
So CheckPrime, IdrA and oGsTheWind are practically guaranteed an S-class spot by qualifying to GSL again, or am I reading this incorrectly?

The system confuses me, but it seems fair to the players who put in the effort to participate in all the GSL open seasons as well as those who were prepared enough to go the distance in a single GSL season.

I would still like to see TLO with an S-class ranking eventually, though.


i'd like to say it right now, i highly doubt TLO will ever become S-class. Tons of people will disagree but that is just my opinion.


TLO isn't even in Korea.

He wouldn't accept S-class if he got it now. He also has CT.

This is an entirely moot point.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
November 16 2010 18:52 GMT
#33
Its much much harder to become S class after this GSL though.
First u need to be top 32 Korean ladder which is not easy at all
Then you need to beat bot 32 of A class
Then you need to be the top of A class ( out of 96 ppl)
Then you need to beat the bottom of S class
Much much harder than just winning 4 Bo3

TLO stood a very decent chance getting S class if he had participated in GSL 3.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 18:55:45
November 16 2010 18:55 GMT
#34
On November 17 2010 03:51 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 03:49 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 17 2010 03:46 Kagami-sama wrote:
So CheckPrime, IdrA and oGsTheWind are practically guaranteed an S-class spot by qualifying to GSL again, or am I reading this incorrectly?

The system confuses me, but it seems fair to the players who put in the effort to participate in all the GSL open seasons as well as those who were prepared enough to go the distance in a single GSL season.

I would still like to see TLO with an S-class ranking eventually, though.


i'd like to say it right now, i highly doubt TLO will ever become S-class. Tons of people will disagree but that is just my opinion.


TLO isn't even in Korea.

He wouldn't accept S-class if he got it now. He also has CT.

This is an entirely moot point.


Thanks for the heads up on TLO not being in Korea....................I already knew that TLO left korea to go back home and stay there for a bit. Basically the point I was trying to make was when TLO returns and tries to join the A-class tournment in order to try and attempt to take down S-class players, it will not happen.
climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
November 16 2010 19:05 GMT
#35
Very good write-up! Super helpful.
Twitter: @JonathanRosales
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
November 16 2010 19:06 GMT
#36
On November 17 2010 03:55 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 03:51 dcemuser wrote:
On November 17 2010 03:49 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 17 2010 03:46 Kagami-sama wrote:
So CheckPrime, IdrA and oGsTheWind are practically guaranteed an S-class spot by qualifying to GSL again, or am I reading this incorrectly?

The system confuses me, but it seems fair to the players who put in the effort to participate in all the GSL open seasons as well as those who were prepared enough to go the distance in a single GSL season.

I would still like to see TLO with an S-class ranking eventually, though.


i'd like to say it right now, i highly doubt TLO will ever become S-class. Tons of people will disagree but that is just my opinion.


TLO isn't even in Korea.

He wouldn't accept S-class if he got it now. He also has CT.

This is an entirely moot point.


Thanks for the heads up on TLO not being in Korea....................I already knew that TLO left korea to go back home and stay there for a bit. Basically the point I was trying to make was when TLO returns and tries to join the A-class tournment in order to try and attempt to take down S-class players, it will not happen.


Because you are a time traveler right? You can hate on TLO all you want, or make wild guesses, but there's no point on making a statement like this unless you are trying to troll.

Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 16 2010 19:07 GMT
#37
As an statistic fanatic an an analysis freak, I found this OP very well thought of and describing (Could've of course been a little bit better and more dsiplaying, but I get the most out of it).

Overall a very beautiful OP and yes, its now that everything settles so GSL3 will be the most exciting as of yet for sure.

Also, a lot of posters in here seems to have completely misunderstood the OP or are just stupid.
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Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
November 16 2010 19:11 GMT
#38
On November 17 2010 01:31 Cikop wrote:
Why everyone makes an assumption that all GSL are worth the same. IMO participating in GSL3 Ro16 could be worth more than GSL1 Ro16 due to the number and overall quality of players participating.


Because the Gods at GOMTV said so.
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Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
November 16 2010 19:15 GMT
#39
On November 17 2010 04:06 Terrakin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 03:55 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 17 2010 03:51 dcemuser wrote:
On November 17 2010 03:49 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 17 2010 03:46 Kagami-sama wrote:
So CheckPrime, IdrA and oGsTheWind are practically guaranteed an S-class spot by qualifying to GSL again, or am I reading this incorrectly?

The system confuses me, but it seems fair to the players who put in the effort to participate in all the GSL open seasons as well as those who were prepared enough to go the distance in a single GSL season.

I would still like to see TLO with an S-class ranking eventually, though.


i'd like to say it right now, i highly doubt TLO will ever become S-class. Tons of people will disagree but that is just my opinion.


TLO isn't even in Korea.

He wouldn't accept S-class if he got it now. He also has CT.

This is an entirely moot point.


Thanks for the heads up on TLO not being in Korea....................I already knew that TLO left korea to go back home and stay there for a bit. Basically the point I was trying to make was when TLO returns and tries to join the A-class tournment in order to try and attempt to take down S-class players, it will not happen.


Because you are a time traveler right? You can hate on TLO all you want, or make wild guesses, but there's no point on making a statement like this unless you are trying to troll.



The last thing i am trying to do is Troll. Honestly, all I wanted to say was although TLO making S-class would be awesome because I do love his style of play. It is just very unlikely because he just lacks the amount of skill it is going to take in order to become S-class after these GSL's qualies are over.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
November 16 2010 19:15 GMT
#40
My god people, read the fucking op before posting
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