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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
November 07 2010 20:01 GMT
#2861
The build Jinro used is the Polt timing attack (of PoltPrime in GSL1), right? So it's been out there for a while...
zomgad
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
November 07 2010 20:01 GMT
#2862
On November 08 2010 04:56 sjschmidt93 wrote:
It's pretty much impossible to stop if you go colossi. Even if you phoenix/templar it's still fucking tough.

Almost autowin vs. Protoss.

u do realize if he went normal 3 rax all in he would still win, tt1 expanded while being greedy with tech expecting jinro did the same, losing the obs and not knowing whats FA doing costed him the game
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
November 07 2010 20:01 GMT
#2863
On November 08 2010 04:58 Lucius2 wrote:
all the pro advices here:

- getting templar up in time? no way

- u can swing around with phx, but they wont do crap in the final push, because of pdd (if u can get a raven or some banshees hes terrible anyway)

- more gateway units, also get owned by pdd and no aoe


Okay pro, what do you suggest Protoss do?
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
kalimari
Profile Joined October 2010
United States57 Posts
November 07 2010 20:01 GMT
#2864
HuK Pillow!
Kr1pos
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway67 Posts
November 07 2010 20:01 GMT
#2865
Tyler lost first game against PainUser according to Bnet. 0-3 in the Bo7 now.
aNDRoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States637 Posts
November 07 2010 20:01 GMT
#2866
Brackets are showing Tekken results. They'll hopefully get it fixed soon!
Hi. My name is Werner Brandes. My voice is my passport. Verify me.
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
November 07 2010 20:01 GMT
#2867
On November 08 2010 04:56 Skillz_Man wrote:
GGs... I don't think it's possible to actually beat that build if you open Robo, atleast I can't. Both players played really well though. Jinro just played so well, wasn't FrozenArbiter like D+ on iccup 2 years ago?


No absolutely not. When I quit brood war sometime ~2006-2007 he was one of the best protoss in Sweden at least.

Really impressed by his sc2 play. It just looks so professional... scanning and shooting down observers just when they come to the base. Using 2 banshees to lure stalkers toward them while another banshee takes down a pylon or two and just keeps building up an advantage.

I don't get how he hasn't gotten into GSL when even torch could.
Hello=)
Xeteh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States589 Posts
November 07 2010 20:01 GMT
#2868
On November 08 2010 05:00 MrSexington wrote:
The bracket page is glitching for me.

Where did Tyler place? He's 3rd/4th right? Did he win that one?

But does 2nd/3rd still fight it out?

Ahh... need bracket. Double-elimination


Afaik Tyler is still in it, plays PainUser but has to win 4.
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
November 07 2010 20:01 GMT
#2869
think tt1 shoudl have just skipped the colluses and pumped more zealots and immortals and add in phoenixes. his army didn't do anything versus that brutal combo of bio/pdd/banshee.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
November 07 2010 20:01 GMT
#2870
Is anyone else almost brainwashed by those commercials? I just actually bought dr pepper even though all i wanted was something to eat :D
Huko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States324 Posts
November 07 2010 20:01 GMT
#2871
On November 08 2010 04:55 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:54 Rawenkeke wrote:
Terran OP? pushes of that sorts are impossible to stop, like srsly.


Oh dear god in heaven.

If they were impossible to stop they'd be done in every single TvP and no protoss would ever win a game.

It's a timing push. The way they work is you scout them early enough and you prepare. TTone wasn't prepared. Timing push worked.

Some people have more class than to do a timing push that is unstoppable. I have yet to see anyone stop it, and the best protoss in the world have been crushed by it.
Wayem
Profile Joined May 2010
France455 Posts
November 07 2010 20:01 GMT
#2872
On November 08 2010 04:57 ZerOfy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:56 zemiron wrote:
This is why Terran owns Protoss. I still don't understand why Protoss are tethered to the Colossus. Get more Immortals out to take the Marauders out. Oh well, maybe we'll have Tyler get through so we don't get a TvT finals.


+1

Respect the gateway units!


This is exactly the same answer as the "lol just go robo build into colossi" from zerg players to protoss players asking for advice because they lost against hydra push. Forgetting there that if you open robo blind, it's kinda autoloose vs mutas.

Yes, you can do this or this. If TT1 knew from the beginning it would be this push 100% sure he would have won. But if he didn't go colossi, he would have died to soooooo many other builds.

That's why players tend to favor colossi over anything else. It's more "safe".

Welcome to the protoss world. Paper/rock/cissors and a balance around stupid spells aka one FF makes you win, one FF makes you loose.
"who needs micro when you can have more stuff ?" -day9
Friend23
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland270 Posts
November 07 2010 20:01 GMT
#2873
14pm cdt is what cst? this is starting just in seconds or in 1 hour?
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
November 07 2010 20:02 GMT
#2874
On November 08 2010 04:58 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:55 kojinshugi wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:54 Rawenkeke wrote:
Terran OP? pushes of that sorts are impossible to stop, like srsly.


Oh dear god in heaven.

If they were impossible to stop they'd be done in every single TvP and no protoss would ever win a game.

It's a timing push. The way they work is you scout them early enough and you prepare. TTone wasn't prepared. Timing push worked.

I haven't seen a game where Protoss stops it yet. I never play T but I actually tried it myself and I stomped every Protoss while I didn't even have a proper build. The PDD in combination with Banshees and marine/stim dps is just insane. I'm glad I only ever faced (got destroyed) by this once so far on the ladder.

I have. In GSL Ro 32 I think. Forgot who but all they did was made sure that the Raven was taken out before the main fight and then use blink stalkers.
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
November 07 2010 20:02 GMT
#2875
Loser's finals, who won between PainUser and Tyler?
Priphea
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
November 07 2010 20:02 GMT
#2876
On November 08 2010 04:58 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:55 kojinshugi wrote:
On November 08 2010 04:54 Rawenkeke wrote:
Terran OP? pushes of that sorts are impossible to stop, like srsly.


Oh dear god in heaven.

If they were impossible to stop they'd be done in every single TvP and no protoss would ever win a game.

It's a timing push. The way they work is you scout them early enough and you prepare. TTone wasn't prepared. Timing push worked.

I haven't seen a game where Protoss stops it yet. I never play T but I actually tried it myself and I stomped every Protoss while I didn't even have a proper build. The PDD in combination with Banshees and marine/stim dps is just insane. I'm glad I only ever faced (got destroyed) by this once so far on the ladder.


I have lost with it before, usually as a result of getting outmicrod by force-fields. Phoenix openings are also pretty good against it. I don't think I ever lost to a collosus-rush though or any sort of goofy quick-HT play
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
sWeed
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany59 Posts
November 07 2010 20:02 GMT
#2877
On November 08 2010 05:00 zyzski wrote:
sorry again for the mix up on the TLO score. someone handed me the update before checking


np, u just made whole germany mad ^^
Avaren
Profile Joined August 2010
United States23 Posts
November 07 2010 20:02 GMT
#2878
On November 08 2010 05:01 ParasitJonte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:56 Skillz_Man wrote:
GGs... I don't think it's possible to actually beat that build if you open Robo, atleast I can't. Both players played really well though. Jinro just played so well, wasn't FrozenArbiter like D+ on iccup 2 years ago?


No absolutely not. When I quit brood war sometime ~2006-2007 he was one of the best protoss in Sweden at least.

Really impressed by his sc2 play. It just looks so professional... scanning and shooting down observers just when they come to the base. Using 2 banshees to lure stalkers toward them while another banshee takes down a pylon or two and just keeps building up an advantage.

I don't get how he hasn't gotten into GSL when even torch could.


Needs more single drone nuke action.
He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious. -Sun Tzu
zyzski
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
November 07 2010 20:02 GMT
#2879
we're on a lunch break right now
TYBG
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2373 Posts
November 07 2010 20:02 GMT
#2880
what is idra doing in the back lol?
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