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abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
October 02 2010 10:32 GMT
#1901
On October 02 2010 19:29 Clodius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 19:28 vyyye wrote:
On October 02 2010 19:28 Clodius wrote:
GSL1 has been a huge disappointment imo. Would've rather seen TLO vs idra. Koreans once again prove they are nothing but hype.

"Hi, I want to get banned and/or cause a shitstorm".


Lol oh how wrong you are


I think you'll get about one more troll post like this off before you get a ban, I hope it's worth it.
derpmods
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
October 02 2010 10:32 GMT
#1902
I think ITR is missing one key concept in his plays and that is to deny zerg expansions. If he lets Cool take the map, it is no wonder that he gets overwhelmed so badly.
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
October 02 2010 10:32 GMT
#1903
On October 02 2010 19:28 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 19:25 SiguR wrote:
On October 02 2010 19:21 whitey_ wrote:
Idra's tweet about thanking Rainbow for making Z look good is just flat out disrespectful to FruitDealer.

I know most of you idolize the guy for some weird reason but c'mon, call a spade a spade. That's completely out of line and just pathetic of Idra to make a comment like that.



How in gods name is it pathetic and completely out of line? He feels that ITR isnt doing what he should be doing, which is why cool is winning on these maps that he shouldnt be winning on. He's allowed to tweet whatever he wants. Stop being so dramatic.

Idra's pretty much right =/ Cool has about zero units in the midgame and is completely taking advantage of the passive style ITR is taking to take free expansions. Even in the Delta game ITR only started dropping once as he was taking his third base, by then Cool had established his four bases and was getting his 5th. ITR needs to wake up to this and punish Cool for being too greedy or take expansions more recklessly himself - either way he needs to stop playing like Cool expects him to, and then Cool should die.

The key difference between Cool and other zergs at the moment is that Cool is playing completely recklessly with his expanding, hoping that ITR is going to play passive, and he's getting away with it. He's taking huge risks, but they're paying off.


Exactly. Cool isn't engaging unless he has these super armies. If you give a zerg as much room to do whatever they want as this, then it doesn't matter if it's Idra, Sen or Check, they will destroy the terran.

This playstyle is simply not working. He needs to open reaper or helion. He needs to try an earlier timing push. He needs to stop with the dropship play.
Mr_Kzimir
Profile Joined August 2010
France268 Posts
October 02 2010 10:32 GMT
#1904
@Fisher , no worries man thank you for the restream
"Infantry , it's all about it"
chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
October 02 2010 10:32 GMT
#1905
This is not even fair, I want fruitdealer to win, but I don't want to see such one sided final. So rainbow, take a game or two please.
"Hopefully you're not the real TLO so it's not casted" - SpecialK
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
October 02 2010 10:32 GMT
#1906
Wow idra is making himself look bad by bm itr when he didnt make it to ro16 cool has roflstomped so many terrans this tourney.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
October 02 2010 10:32 GMT
#1907
On October 02 2010 19:29 keV. wrote:
It's just insane to think future balance patches will be altered at all by whoever wins this tournament. You guys are giving Blizzard way too much credit. It's not how they operate, so relax.


I don't think Blizzard is even watching GSL. They only ever refer to Ladder when talking about racial balance.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
October 02 2010 10:32 GMT
#1908
Fisher doesnt have to appologise! He's already my hero for restreaming, and trying to fix it when it goes wrong etc.. No need to apologise and a thousand thanks for your efforts =)
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
JIJI_
Profile Joined October 2010
United States123 Posts
October 02 2010 10:33 GMT
#1909
Lol it seems like every map in their opinion is a "Terran op map"?
All hail King IdrA!
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
October 02 2010 10:33 GMT
#1910
what the fuck is this commercial
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 02 2010 10:33 GMT
#1911
On October 02 2010 19:28 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 19:25 SiguR wrote:
On October 02 2010 19:21 whitey_ wrote:
Idra's tweet about thanking Rainbow for making Z look good is just flat out disrespectful to FruitDealer.

I know most of you idolize the guy for some weird reason but c'mon, call a spade a spade. That's completely out of line and just pathetic of Idra to make a comment like that.



How in gods name is it pathetic and completely out of line? He feels that ITR isnt doing what he should be doing, which is why cool is winning on these maps that he shouldnt be winning on. He's allowed to tweet whatever he wants. Stop being so dramatic.

Idra's pretty much right =/ Cool has about zero units in the midgame and is completely taking advantage of the passive style ITR is taking to take free expansions. Even in the Delta game ITR only started dropping once as he was taking his third base, by then Cool had established his four bases and was getting his 5th. ITR needs to wake up to this and punish Cool for being too greedy or take expansions more recklessly himself - either way he needs to stop playing like Cool expects him to, and then Cool should die.

The key difference between Cool and other zergs at the moment is that Cool is playing completely recklessly with his expanding, hoping that ITR is going to play passive, and he's getting away with it. He's taking huge risks, but they're paying off.


Exactly, when Terran plays passive and FruitDealer is allowed to take mass expansions, HopeTorture CANNOT claw his way forward off of 3 bases. He can't retake initiative and make FruitDealer react to his play. There isn't this big terran unstoppable push because FruitDealer doesn't let him.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 10:33:27
October 02 2010 10:33 GMT
#1912
On October 02 2010 19:32 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 19:29 keV. wrote:
It's just insane to think future balance patches will be altered at all by whoever wins this tournament. You guys are giving Blizzard way too much credit. It's not how they operate, so relax.


I don't think Blizzard is even watching GSL. They only ever refer to Ladder when talking about racial balance.


Yes, I agree. You guys are way over reacting for no reason at all.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
October 02 2010 10:33 GMT
#1913
When does the game start? The boredom is killing me.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
October 02 2010 10:33 GMT
#1914
Lets see that Morrow build! Bring teh heat!
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
October 02 2010 10:33 GMT
#1915
On October 02 2010 19:31 Gudeldar wrote:
Is the sound and video out of sync for anyone else?



Yes.
derpmods
Beren
Profile Joined June 2010
United States514 Posts
October 02 2010 10:33 GMT
#1916
On October 02 2010 19:31 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Artosis starts to mention VLC and my GOM player just cuts out... LOL, it's self-preserving


i got the exact same thing and was just like WOW...
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
October 02 2010 10:33 GMT
#1917
On October 02 2010 19:32 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 19:29 keV. wrote:
It's just insane to think future balance patches will be altered at all by whoever wins this tournament. You guys are giving Blizzard way too much credit. It's not how they operate, so relax.


I don't think Blizzard is even watching GSL. They only ever refer to Ladder when talking about racial balance.


What are you talking about? Mike Morhaime even did the intro speech for gomtv.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 02 2010 10:33 GMT
#1918
On October 02 2010 19:26 mongojazZ wrote:
ITR would destroy every other Zerg - it's not that he's playing badly, it's just that FruitDealer is playing absofruitely amazing. Respect where respect is due. IdrA is showing bad manners (surprise, surprise!) by disrespecting FruitDealers amazing play.

This LR thread is worse than usual, full of raving, ignorant fanboys... Idra would stomp ITR playing like this. Congrats to Cool for playing well but it's really ITR's predictable/passive play and poor decision making that's dictating the outcomes thus far

User was warned for this post
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Toosneaky
Profile Joined July 2010
United States114 Posts
October 02 2010 10:33 GMT
#1919
i refreshed the stream from the gomtv SQ link and im sync'd up!
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
October 02 2010 10:33 GMT
#1920
On October 02 2010 19:28 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 19:25 SiguR wrote:
On October 02 2010 19:21 whitey_ wrote:
Idra's tweet about thanking Rainbow for making Z look good is just flat out disrespectful to FruitDealer.

I know most of you idolize the guy for some weird reason but c'mon, call a spade a spade. That's completely out of line and just pathetic of Idra to make a comment like that.



How in gods name is it pathetic and completely out of line? He feels that ITR isnt doing what he should be doing, which is why cool is winning on these maps that he shouldnt be winning on. He's allowed to tweet whatever he wants. Stop being so dramatic.

Idra's pretty much right =/ Cool has about zero units in the midgame and is completely taking advantage of the passive style ITR is taking to take free expansions. Even in the Delta game ITR only started dropping once as he was taking his third base, by then Cool had established his four bases and was getting his 5th. ITR needs to wake up to this and punish Cool for being too greedy or take expansions more recklessly himself - either way he needs to stop playing like Cool expects him to, and then Cool should die.

The key difference between Cool and other zergs at the moment is that Cool is playing completely recklessly with his expanding, hoping that ITR is going to play passive, and he's getting away with it. He's taking huge risks, but they're paying off.


You are right. but the question is about what I "bolded". Is he risky all the way, or is he playing a specific opponent and knows that his tactic is to mech 200/200 with drops in between. What is wrong with knowing what your opponent is doing and countering is very very hard ?
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
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