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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
September 18 2010 18:37 GMT
#441
People bitching and moaning... it's a gigantic open tournament being ran in 1 day (really, really fucking well, I add). You can't expect seamless transitions with this many games going on to coordinate and replays to send out. The expectations you guys have are fucking unreal.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 18 2010 18:38 GMT
#442
On September 19 2010 03:37 Welmu wrote:
mmm, you dudes understand that if they livecast the games with many people watching it some observer may tell to other player everything what another dude is making (with cell phone or live). No one wouldn't get caught about it and it is impossible to spot "cheating".

Well livestreams don't have to be live, they can be delayed so that you can't cheat, can't they? That would fix almost everything.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
September 18 2010 18:39 GMT
#443
^^ I agree. The tournament is good for first run but it's little bit confusing to follow as there were like 3-4 streams all casting different replays and I had no idea of the whole big picture. They felt little like random games and you had to choose what to watch.
Still enjoying the tournament but it has some room for improvement!
Muffel
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany137 Posts
September 18 2010 18:39 GMT
#444
On September 19 2010 03:30 Tohron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 03:27 Muffel wrote:
On September 19 2010 03:22 Leviance wrote:
This is too annoying to watch atm and nowhere near exciting somehow (to me at least). I was so looking forward to this tournament, but since all this confusing, chaotic and random replay casting of ro16/8 I have lost all interest in watching. I hope next ATL Open will have learned from today.

100% agree
no tournement or livefeeling... its like watching some random cast on youtube...
replaycasting is like watching the super bowl the day after on VHS.


...with the recording split into several videos arriving in disjointed fashion over half the day.

hehe ye true
+ due to the count of cups its like every day is super bowl :/
Cox:"I suppose I could riff a list of things that I care as little about as our last week together. Lemme see, uhh [...] Oh! And Hugh Jackman." J.D.: Hugh Jackman's Wolverine! How dare he.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
September 18 2010 18:40 GMT
#445
On September 19 2010 03:38 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 03:37 Welmu wrote:
mmm, you dudes understand that if they livecast the games with many people watching it some observer may tell to other player everything what another dude is making (with cell phone or live). No one wouldn't get caught about it and it is impossible to spot "cheating".

Well livestreams don't have to be live, they can be delayed so that you can't cheat, can't they? That would fix almost everything.


Delaying streams can cost A LOT of money. They can't just be "delayed" so easily like you make it to be.
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
September 18 2010 18:41 GMT
#446
Yeah, TheBeard just said Morrow had played against Merz in some other tournament today.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
September 18 2010 18:42 GMT
#447
tvt semis and tvt finals... meh
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
September 18 2010 18:43 GMT
#448
This can all be fixed with better organization for next time.But for the first time, it was not bad.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
September 18 2010 18:43 GMT
#449
Why there is no commentating going on on DJ`s Wheats channel

ok apparently he is streaming random replays.
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
September 18 2010 18:44 GMT
#450
On September 19 2010 03:39 Piski wrote:
^^ I agree. The tournament is good for first run but it's little bit confusing to follow as there were like 3-4 streams all casting different replays and I had no idea of the whole big picture. They felt little like random games and you had to choose what to watch.
Still enjoying the tournament but it has some room for improvement!


That's kinda' the point? With multiple streams you can choose what you want to watch of the games in progress. If you expected only 1 cast the entire time, then the volume of games to go through would either have to be cut down to the bare minimum or it would take days upon days to stream them all. I love this format.

I think in order to facilitate a little more coordination you could designate the brackets to specific casters (assuming an appropriate ratio of casters 4/8 etc), so people kind of have a schedule (so to speak) of who to expect on the streams. Just a thought. Understandably difficult and like to be able to improvise, but I think that would be a rather simple way to clarify what might be on what streams.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
September 18 2010 18:44 GMT
#451
Oh god the caster for Ragequit's stream is horrible. No idea why they keep getting him to cast their streams.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 18:46:05
September 18 2010 18:45 GMT
#452
I was fine with following the tournament. Disappointed at terran domination of late rounds as usual.

orb casted excellently, was my favorite caster to follow. Professional and informative.
ragequit.tv did a very good job as well.
DecemberTV was slightly unprofessional, sometimes didn't cover replay bar/talked about time left in game.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
September 18 2010 18:46 GMT
#453
On September 19 2010 03:43 GenoZStriker wrote:
This can all be fixed with better organization for next time.But for the first time, it was not bad.

Agreed. I also feel (although you guys might not agree here), that I'd rather have them stop releasing replays to random casters when it gets into series play and cast from a single official cast, maybe even over a couple of days.

Basically I love the thought behind what they are doing now with the official djwheat and chill cast, but I think the cutoff should have been sooner. But maybe I feel this way only because my favorite players already got knocked out .
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
September 18 2010 18:47 GMT
#454
On September 19 2010 03:34 Slow Motion wrote:
The problem isn't that they aren't casting live, but because they aren't scheduling the release of replays well. In TSL when there was a single official cast of replays, it worked out very well and had tons of viewers. I guess it's harder to do here cause they want to get all the games out there in a day this time. I think there will be an official cast of the Ro8 soon though.


Yes this is one of the main issues, besides the lack of live momentum. Preferred improvements would be:

One Possibility:

1. One Official ATL Open Stream

2. Thought out order of matches being casted

3. Little things that improve momentum feeling (better: don't fuck it up) like not showing the streamer searching replay files on his Computer to not see how many there are per match and of what size they are, have an overlay seen instead, actually have an overlay badass ATL Open Banner/Picture shown the WHOLE time the stream is not showing ingame footage.

Another:

Do it like HDH. Cast games live. Show the Cast after the games. It really delivers more excitement and feels live (cause it WAS live lol).


Of course there might be better suggestions and stuff, it's just two easy ways of not having the chaos of today which lead to a tournament which lost so much excitement and feeling just because of the casting mess.
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2013 Posts
September 18 2010 18:47 GMT
#455
Who will stream the last two rounds?
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 18 2010 18:48 GMT
#456
On September 19 2010 03:44 dabom88 wrote:
Oh god the caster for Ragequit's stream is horrible. No idea why they keep getting him to cast their streams.

You probably should have changed streams then. -orb-'s stream was really good. He has really nice insight, especially when talking about Protoss.
Uff Da
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
September 18 2010 18:48 GMT
#457
Yay, all Terran semifinals once again. Oh well, it was fun watching the streams.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
September 18 2010 18:49 GMT
#458
What happened to Morrow?
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
SwiftBunny
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada134 Posts
September 18 2010 18:49 GMT
#459
On September 19 2010 03:44 dabom88 wrote:
Oh god the caster for Ragequit's stream is horrible. No idea why they keep getting him to cast their streams.


I agree, as well December guy was quite poor choice as well.

Orb did an excellent job and provided good analysis as well not missing any action that many casters seem to usually miss. Even above and beyond suggesting ways for them to improve/talking about the current unit combination/strategy coming from the players.

Instead of just casters who go " okay hes making a barracks.. now hes moving..now hes dead.." plus general non knowledge in game mechanics or strategies or very light understanding with very little high level insight.

Stuff
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 18:53:19
September 18 2010 18:49 GMT
#460
Orb was easily the best caster of the day.

+ Show Spoiler +
So, just TvT from here on. No way I'm gonna watch that. Patch please.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
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