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GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 16:08:49
September 18 2010 16:08 GMT
#241
Simple. Don't try to spoil yourself. People go look at the players history and then blame tournament organizers because of that. And TeamLiquid from now on (replay casting) should not update the brackets till all the results of a round comes in.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 18 2010 16:09 GMT
#242
On September 19 2010 01:06 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 00:57 ZapRoffo wrote:
On September 19 2010 00:56 Liquid`Ret wrote:
dont bring up my game like it means something in terms of balance, i just fucked myself by leaving the cannon with 1 hp ... twice :D


GogOgo Haypro & Tyler



It's not any specific game, it's just a systematic thing of noticing how few Zergs make it to the later rounds of every single tournament (the IEM LAN was the sole exception I've seen of any recent tournament).

But at the same time, I did know like twice as many terran from name than zergs(i knew 4 zergs) not to mention that the zergs in this tourney just got some really bad luck. Ret loosing to 1 cannon was devastating to watch, (esp. since on one side there were zlings not reaching the cannon and on the other the cannon had killed em all or something), sen going allin instead of just expanding and macroing up, lalush I have no idea what happend to... All the best terrans are still in there except for painuser.

well you know twice as many terrans because they won 20x more tourneys
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
September 18 2010 16:11 GMT
#243
Spoiler on qxc vs Haypro!

+ Show Spoiler +
Haypro won game 1!!!
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 16:12:37
September 18 2010 16:11 GMT
#244
On September 19 2010 01:09 Sfydjklm wrote:

well you know twice as many terrans because they won 20x more tourneys


I originally thought this was an exaggeration. LOL
Hold-Lurker
Profile Joined October 2007
United States403 Posts
September 18 2010 16:12 GMT
#245
Livestream went down on the deciding battle =(
NewDeal
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden26 Posts
September 18 2010 16:14 GMT
#246
Replay casting is probably the worst idea ever. I have no idea what games the casters are casting now. Morrow vs Dayman? Morrow vs Dimaga? Huh?


On September 19 2010 01:06 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 00:57 ZapRoffo wrote:
On September 19 2010 00:56 Liquid`Ret wrote:
dont bring up my game like it means something in terms of balance, i just fucked myself by leaving the cannon with 1 hp ... twice :D


GogOgo Haypro & Tyler



It's not any specific game, it's just a systematic thing of noticing how few Zergs make it to the later rounds of every single tournament (the IEM LAN was the sole exception I've seen of any recent tournament).

But at the same time, I did know like twice as many terran from name than zergs(i knew 4 zergs) not to mention that the zergs in this tourney just got some really bad luck. Ret loosing to 1 cannon was devastating to watch, (esp. since on one side there were zlings not reaching the cannon and on the other the cannon had killed em all or something), sen going allin instead of just expanding and macroing up, lalush I have no idea what happend to... All the best terrans are still in there except for painuser.


Yes, clearly there are no imbalances. Zerg players are just UNLUCKY.
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
September 18 2010 16:18 GMT
#247
I hope we can get some 5min delay technology for streams or something. 'Cause as soon as the Ro16 came up, there was this massive dead space, delays, confusions. As a spectator I basically lost interest and tuned out. Plus you've been updating the brackets before the casters get a chance to show the replays, which is massive fail.
HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
September 18 2010 16:19 GMT
#248
On September 19 2010 01:18 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
I hope we can get some 5min delay technology for streams or something. 'Cause as soon as the Ro16 came up, there was this massive dead space, delays, confusions. As a spectator I basically lost interest and tuned out. Plus you've been updating the brackets before the casters get a chance to show the replays, which is massive fail.



5 minute delay isn't enough, and to me that small sacrifice is nothing compared to guaranteed no cheating via livestream
ProgamerLive like a God or die like a Slave 11:11
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
September 18 2010 16:20 GMT
#249
I'm kinda confused. Hard to tell who is casting what. I have to tune into every stream and tab back and forth muting and stuff so that I don't miss anything lol.
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
September 18 2010 16:20 GMT
#250
kiwi's game
+ Show Spoiler +
Hell yeah, 2-0 kiwikaki fighting!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
SwiftBunny
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada134 Posts
September 18 2010 16:20 GMT
#251
Orb is plowing trough replays, very nice work coming from orb

I tried to watch the other streams but they seemed to be poor quality commentating with huge huge amount of downtime with confusion of what was happening.

Seems like Orb does Know best
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cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
September 18 2010 16:21 GMT
#252
On September 19 2010 01:18 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
I hope we can get some 5min delay technology for streams or something. 'Cause as soon as the Ro16 came up, there was this massive dead space, delays, confusions. As a spectator I basically lost interest and tuned out. Plus you've been updating the brackets before the casters get a chance to show the replays, which is massive fail.


I stopped watching for the same reason. Not hyped for some replays that I can watch later anyway.
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 16:27:03
September 18 2010 16:24 GMT
#253
Haypro vs. qxc is on Wolf's stream right now.
+ Show Spoiler +
They are waiting on game 3 replay now, 1-1.


SeleCT vs. Sheriff is on orb's. (akas, kyunghyunryoo vs. tasteful)
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 16:33:00
September 18 2010 16:27 GMT
#254
what's happening with the two outstanding ro32 games?

edit - make that one, fuck yeah ourk
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
September 18 2010 16:28 GMT
#255
On September 19 2010 01:19 HuK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 01:18 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
I hope we can get some 5min delay technology for streams or something. 'Cause as soon as the Ro16 came up, there was this massive dead space, delays, confusions. As a spectator I basically lost interest and tuned out. Plus you've been updating the brackets before the casters get a chance to show the replays, which is massive fail.



5 minute delay isn't enough, and to me that small sacrifice is nothing compared to guaranteed no cheating via livestream


I liked in HDH when they recorded a live casting (to no audience) and then broadcast the recording. That made it feel more exciting.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
September 18 2010 16:34 GMT
#256
On September 19 2010 01:28 ZapRoffo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 01:19 HuK wrote:
On September 19 2010 01:18 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
I hope we can get some 5min delay technology for streams or something. 'Cause as soon as the Ro16 came up, there was this massive dead space, delays, confusions. As a spectator I basically lost interest and tuned out. Plus you've been updating the brackets before the casters get a chance to show the replays, which is massive fail.



5 minute delay isn't enough, and to me that small sacrifice is nothing compared to guaranteed no cheating via livestream


I liked in HDH when they recorded a live casting (to no audience) and then broadcast the recording. That made it feel more exciting.


alright, now this I don't understand at all. why is this in any way better than casting from a replay? because it was live for the commentators? the TL commentators don't know the results you know.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
September 18 2010 16:36 GMT
#257
On September 19 2010 01:19 HuK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 01:18 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
I hope we can get some 5min delay technology for streams or something. 'Cause as soon as the Ro16 came up, there was this massive dead space, delays, confusions. As a spectator I basically lost interest and tuned out. Plus you've been updating the brackets before the casters get a chance to show the replays, which is massive fail.



5 minute delay isn't enough, and to me that small sacrifice is nothing compared to guaranteed no cheating via livestream


I am pretty sure 5 minutes is enough in 99,9% of the cases and I honestly don't expect anyone to have a cheat setup ready for this totally rare situations. And If 5 minutes is not enough, just have it 8.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
September 18 2010 16:38 GMT
#258
On September 19 2010 01:36 TBO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 01:19 HuK wrote:
On September 19 2010 01:18 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
I hope we can get some 5min delay technology for streams or something. 'Cause as soon as the Ro16 came up, there was this massive dead space, delays, confusions. As a spectator I basically lost interest and tuned out. Plus you've been updating the brackets before the casters get a chance to show the replays, which is massive fail.



5 minute delay isn't enough, and to me that small sacrifice is nothing compared to guaranteed no cheating via livestream


I am pretty sure 5 minutes is enough in 99,9% of the cases and I honestly don't expect anyone to have a cheat setup ready for this totally rare situations. And If 5 minutes is not enough, just have it 8.


Agreed 100%
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
September 18 2010 16:38 GMT
#259
I'm just constantly laughing at the guy from ragequit tv who's going: is it going to be a thwee gate ow a two gate?
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
September 18 2010 16:39 GMT
#260
Haypro vs. qxc game starting now on wolf's stream. + Show Spoiler +
1-1, game 3
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
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