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On September 19 2010 00:26 Psyclon wrote:They call him KiwiKaki - the Zerg Slayer  It seems all hope is left with Haypro. And DarkForce actually, if he beats Goody. So from 144 zergs in the beginning there is now only 1 or 2
Kiwikaki slays Zerg by cannon rush them.
And DarkForce lost to Goody, by imbalance. This game hurts while watching.
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For me it's actually the same, i can't really get over the fact that the game was already played and therefore i am not as excited as i would be in a live game. It might not make any sense, but it's the same in football or whatever sports. Got to see it live or i will lose interest.
The delay is terrible btw, gonna play myself now as well.
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On September 19 2010 00:43 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Haypro last Zerg in Ro16...
roflroflrofl -_____-
Srsly, what is this? -.-
well, 2 of the best got killed by kiwikaki :-(
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On September 19 2010 00:46 Pyrthas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 00:41 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
in addition to the huge delay we are experiencing it takes away so much excitement. I don't fully understand this. I'm not saying you're lying--I believe that you're not as excited if it's a replay cast. But I would love it if someone could explain what it is that takes away the excitement. I can see how the delay might sap your enthusiasm, but once the match is actually being cast, it always seems like it's just as exciting to me. I mean, the TSLs were all replays, as far as I recall, and I never felt like I was being robbed. The finals were still super exciting.
It's like watching a football game the day after it's been played. Its exciting but you know the result is already decided (you may even know the result). Watching it live, I feel at least, everything is so much more 'immediate' and tense.
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On September 19 2010 00:49 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 00:26 Psyclon wrote:They call him KiwiKaki - the Zerg Slayer It seems all hope is left with Haypro. And DarkForce actually, if he beats Goody. So from 144 zergs in the beginning there is now only 1 or 2 Kiwikaki slays Zerg by cannon rush them. And DarkForce lost to Goody, by imbalance. This game hurts while watching.
Don't start.
That cannon opening is basic against PvZ, especially in Korea. It's good and strong and it isn't cannon rushing. But it is pretty easy to break trough, Sen just chose all-in instead of expanding and making it a longer game.
And tbh, Kiwikaki played that game horribly, even tho he won.
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On September 19 2010 00:46 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 00:41 Mikami_ wrote:On September 18 2010 23:07 Tone_ wrote:
SeleCT just raped my face in ro32. GL and TY TL for awesome fun! what ? i was raped by him in ro32 it says you got beaten by kyunghyunryo
kyunghyunryo = SeleCT
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On September 19 2010 00:41 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
I really can't get into replaycasting of a live-tournament. I really hope this doesn't become standard cuz in addition to the huge delay we are experiencing it takes away so much excitement.
Guess I'm off playin myself now.
How is it different from streaming live where you have to wait for players to finish games before you jump into the next set? What about the delays you have to wait (ie: IEM/ MLG) in live tournaments between rounds? How does it take away your excitement when the replay bar is covered up anyway =/
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On September 19 2010 00:51 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 00:49 Miragee wrote:On September 19 2010 00:26 Psyclon wrote:They call him KiwiKaki - the Zerg Slayer It seems all hope is left with Haypro. And DarkForce actually, if he beats Goody. So from 144 zergs in the beginning there is now only 1 or 2 Kiwikaki slays Zerg by cannon rush them. And DarkForce lost to Goody, by imbalance. This game hurts while watching. Don't start. That cannon opening is basic against PvZ, especially in Korea. It's good and strong and it isn't cannon rushing. But it is pretty easy to break trough, Sen just chose all-in instead of expanding and making it a longer game. And tbh, Kiwikaki played that game horribly, even tho he won.
You didnt watch the game against Ret before, I guess?
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dont bring up my game like it means something in terms of balance, i just fucked myself by leaving the cannon with 1 hp ... twice :D
GogOgo Haypro & Tyler
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On September 19 2010 00:51 Mithra wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 00:46 Pyrthas wrote:On September 19 2010 00:41 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
in addition to the huge delay we are experiencing it takes away so much excitement. I don't fully understand this. I'm not saying you're lying--I believe that you're not as excited if it's a replay cast. But I would love it if someone could explain what it is that takes away the excitement. I can see how the delay might sap your enthusiasm, but once the match is actually being cast, it always seems like it's just as exciting to me. I mean, the TSLs were all replays, as far as I recall, and I never felt like I was being robbed. The finals were still super exciting. It's like watching a football game the day after it's been played. Its exciting but you know the result is already decided (you may even know the result). Watching it live, I feel at least, everything is so much more 'immediate' and tense.
You'll get it used to it quickly. I felt the same way during the first TSL, but it really isn't anything different. And it's not like watching the games a day later, nobody but the players know the results yet, you couldn't just look them up somewhere.
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On September 19 2010 00:56 Liquid`Ret wrote:
dont bring up my game like it means something in terms of balance, i just fucked myself by leaving the cannon with 1 hp ... twice :D
GogOgo Haypro & Tyler
It's not any specific game, it's just a systematic thing of noticing how few Zergs make it to the later rounds of every single tournament (the IEM LAN was the sole exception I've seen of any recent tournament).
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On September 19 2010 00:51 Mithra wrote:
It's like watching a football game the day after it's been played.
I don't actually think it's this, though. Suppose for some reason you had to watch a football game with a 15-minute delay. Or even a 30-minute delay. You're watching over some relay in the middle of nowhere or something, I don't know. Would you have the same reaction to that? (That's a serious question; I'm just curious.) Is there a point at which the delay would become too long?
And, again, I think most people thought the TSL/TSL2 finals were still really exciting.
Maybe it has to do with the presentation. Pauses in the action are fine if you know you're waiting for people to actually play. If you're casting replays, though, maybe pauses are less fine, because they remind you that you're not being kept perfectly up-to-date or something? Even though a straight 30-minute delay or something, with everything running smoothly and no pauses once it's started, would be less objectionable?
I dunno. Sorry for the derail. I'm just curious about the psychology here. I'll stop.
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On September 19 2010 00:57 Orome wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 00:51 Mithra wrote:On September 19 2010 00:46 Pyrthas wrote:On September 19 2010 00:41 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
in addition to the huge delay we are experiencing it takes away so much excitement. I don't fully understand this. I'm not saying you're lying--I believe that you're not as excited if it's a replay cast. But I would love it if someone could explain what it is that takes away the excitement. I can see how the delay might sap your enthusiasm, but once the match is actually being cast, it always seems like it's just as exciting to me. I mean, the TSLs were all replays, as far as I recall, and I never felt like I was being robbed. The finals were still super exciting. It's like watching a football game the day after it's been played. Its exciting but you know the result is already decided (you may even know the result). Watching it live, I feel at least, everything is so much more 'immediate' and tense. You'll get it used to it quickly. I felt the same way during the first TSL, but it really isn't anything different. And it's not like watching the games a day later, nobody but the players know the results yet, you couldn't just look them up somewhere.
Actually you can. In any of the two players match history...
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On September 19 2010 00:46 R1CH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 00:45 Caphe wrote:
So thats it for today or they gonna play it all the way to the final? Ro16 on are casted from replays, so the streams will continue in a short while.
Thank you, sir!
Very nice job on the bracket page!
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On September 19 2010 00:57 Orome wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 00:51 Mithra wrote:On September 19 2010 00:46 Pyrthas wrote:On September 19 2010 00:41 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
in addition to the huge delay we are experiencing it takes away so much excitement. I don't fully understand this. I'm not saying you're lying--I believe that you're not as excited if it's a replay cast. But I would love it if someone could explain what it is that takes away the excitement. I can see how the delay might sap your enthusiasm, but once the match is actually being cast, it always seems like it's just as exciting to me. I mean, the TSLs were all replays, as far as I recall, and I never felt like I was being robbed. The finals were still super exciting. It's like watching a football game the day after it's been played. Its exciting but you know the result is already decided (you may even know the result). Watching it live, I feel at least, everything is so much more 'immediate' and tense. You'll get it used to it quickly. I felt the same way during the first TSL, but it really isn't anything different. And it's not like watching the games a day later, nobody but the players know the results yet, you couldn't just look them up somewhere.
I agree with you, but I want to point out that it is actually possible to look up the results in the player's match-history.
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On September 19 2010 01:01 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 00:57 Orome wrote:On September 19 2010 00:51 Mithra wrote:On September 19 2010 00:46 Pyrthas wrote:On September 19 2010 00:41 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
in addition to the huge delay we are experiencing it takes away so much excitement. I don't fully understand this. I'm not saying you're lying--I believe that you're not as excited if it's a replay cast. But I would love it if someone could explain what it is that takes away the excitement. I can see how the delay might sap your enthusiasm, but once the match is actually being cast, it always seems like it's just as exciting to me. I mean, the TSLs were all replays, as far as I recall, and I never felt like I was being robbed. The finals were still super exciting. It's like watching a football game the day after it's been played. Its exciting but you know the result is already decided (you may even know the result). Watching it live, I feel at least, everything is so much more 'immediate' and tense. You'll get it used to it quickly. I felt the same way during the first TSL, but it really isn't anything different. And it's not like watching the games a day later, nobody but the players know the results yet, you couldn't just look them up somewhere. Actually you can. In any of the two players match history...
Dont try to spoiled yourself man!
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Wait... only one zerg in Ro16 ?? Then, you'll have to let him won qxc =)
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When will the (semi) finals be casted? Can't find anything about it in the OP  (Really hope haypro makes it, no need for me to watch it otherwise =( )
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On September 19 2010 00:57 ZapRoffo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 00:56 Liquid`Ret wrote:
dont bring up my game like it means something in terms of balance, i just fucked myself by leaving the cannon with 1 hp ... twice :D
GogOgo Haypro & Tyler It's not any specific game, it's just a systematic thing of noticing how few Zergs make it to the later rounds of every single tournament (the IEM LAN was the sole exception I've seen of any recent tournament).
But at the same time, I did know like twice as many terran from name than zergs(i knew 4 zergs) not to mention that the zergs in this tourney just got some really bad luck. Ret loosing to 1 cannon was devastating to watch, (esp. since on one side there were zlings not reaching the cannon and on the other the cannon had killed em all or something), sen going allin instead of just expanding and macroing up, lalush I have no idea what happend to... All the best terrans are still in there except for painuser.
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