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Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1 Post
September 18 2010 14:47 GMT
#1281
On September 18 2010 21:54 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 21:39 Rarak wrote:
On September 18 2010 06:07 JinDesu wrote:
tlo is playing in 2 days and 13 hours

Tester = toss god
Checkprime = zerg god
ITR = terran god

Why the hell are they in the same bracket? This is so unfair for me... out of the rest I only care for inca and top (same bracket those two) *sobs*


No argument with tester, Cool would have to be the top zerg, and not sure about terran. Personally i think the top korean terrans about the same as morrow, demuslim, bratok. Hope some of the top "foreiners" go to next gsl.



Really? I think all of those European players would have almost no chance of beating the likes of Cool, Tester, STC, etc...maybe we need a showmatch?


Remember the showmatches between TLO and Nada at gamescom? Last I remeber TLO is also playing terran. And how!
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
September 18 2010 15:21 GMT
#1282
That is the absolute worst possible example you could have chosen out of all european and SK matches lol.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 18 2010 15:23 GMT
#1283
On September 18 2010 21:39 Rarak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 06:07 JinDesu wrote:
tlo is playing in 2 days and 13 hours

Tester = toss god
Checkprime = zerg god
ITR = terran god

Why the hell are they in the same bracket? This is so unfair for me... out of the rest I only care for inca and top (same bracket those two) *sobs*


No argument with tester, Cool would have to be the top zerg, and not sure about terran. Personally i think the top korean terrans about the same as morrow, demuslim, bratok. Hope some of the top "foreiners" go to next gsl.


I feel that Cool is very very solid, but Check just makes zerg look so fun. Who else throws down 200/200 worth of lings and banelings and comes out ahead? ITR is the same deal - his terran is so much more fun to watch. I really like TLO, but he's got a tough fight to get past Tester if he makes it past his round. It's also unfair for me that he's in that same bracket.
Yargh
smegged
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia213 Posts
September 18 2010 15:40 GMT
#1284
On September 18 2010 03:49 Philosophy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 02:32 wxwx wrote:
On September 18 2010 00:50 Philosophy wrote:
On September 18 2010 00:28 wxwx wrote:
i was really shocked when a pretty small colossus army took on like 30 hydras and won.. but you zergs need to calm down, this doesn't mean imbalance. it's just a demonstration of hard counters. I'm sure you've seen a handful of ultras rape infinite stalkers, or a few hydras holding off a 4gate.

If you look at zenio's reaction after that defeat.. I cannot help but feel sorry for him.. but is that the face of someone who lost to imba? If I knew anything, that's the face of someone who knew he threw the game away....


Few Hydras holding off 4 gate? I dunno if you have tested it, but hydras aren't cost effective vs stalkers.....
Zerg simply is supposed to be the reactionary race, yet its the one with the least hard counters.


hydras are very cost effective vs. all gateway units as long as you match his numbers. I don't know what you're doing wrong. Maybe a-moving your army would help?

no race can go with 1 build and win. All 3 races are reactionary. Just because you labelled yourself as the reactionary race doesn't mean you're entitled to anything. Play with what you have and just enjoy the game.


Hydra: 80 HP, 12 damage, 0,83 attack rate, 0 armor
Stalker: 160 HP, 10 damage, 1,44 attack rate, 1 armor

Notice how the stalker has twice the HP + armor while having more than half of the Hydras dps (because the hydras dps gets lowered considerably by that 1 armor). So no, Hydras are NOT cost effective vs Stalkers. The fact that stalkers have 6 range and high speed right away make it even worse.


Unit density plays a role as well and that actually makes hydra very good against stalkers. You can simply get more hydra in the same amount of space as you can stalkers and that increases their DPS. With armies of these two units having good position is by far the most important factor in even battles.

I watched the Zenio game and boy did he screw up. I was watching him throw those hydra away and thinking "what the heck is he thinking?" I mean it was the worst decision I've seen a player make in the tournament so far. He needed the corruptors out earlier (and in greater numbers) and with his extra expansions going up would have won the macro war.

I really wanted to see more zerg go through but the truth is that both Zenio and IdrA have thrown away games at key moments.

Also, I loved tankboy's harass on scrap station. It really was some of the best terran play you'll see (forgetting his silly little refinery problems at the start of the game).
"I'm usually happy when I can see Dark Templar, Its when I can't see them that I get angry." - Altar
Boof
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada77 Posts
September 18 2010 18:59 GMT
#1285
Probably not the best place to post this, but do you really have to pay to watch all 3 sets of a matchup? Everywhere I read, it says you need to pay for HQ, leaving me to assume LQ would be free. Do you have to pay for LQ as well?
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 18 2010 21:06 GMT
#1286
yes the only legal way to watch VODs of sets 2 and 3 is to pay $20
blabberrrrr
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
September 18 2010 22:54 GMT
#1287
The SC2 main site says the new patch is going to come out on Tuesday, I wonder how this is going to affect the GSL as it might fudge up a lot of player's strategies and they'll pretty much no time to practice/develop new ones.

I actually thought that blizzard would make up some excuse and delay the patch until after the GSL season 1 and before GSL season 2. I'd hate to see blizzard sabotage their own tournament esp if there are unannounced big changes in the patch.
thamest
Profile Joined September 2010
1 Post
September 19 2010 02:30 GMT
#1288
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cjgone
Profile Joined July 2010
United States62 Posts
September 19 2010 04:37 GMT
#1289
2 zergs in the top 16, with a max of 3 possible...wow.. Hope ATLEAST 1 makes it to top 8.
Hi
Boof
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada77 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 20:09:56
September 19 2010 05:40 GMT
#1290
On September 19 2010 11:30 thamest wrote:
-link edited out-

Brackets and Vods. Bookmark it.


Many thanks!
Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 20:10:11
September 19 2010 05:55 GMT
#1291
On September 19 2010 14:40 Boof wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 11:30 thamest wrote:
-link edited out-

Brackets and Vods. Bookmark it.


Many thanks!

many many thanks but wheres the round of 32 day 3? Im dieing to see that, everyone has day2 but no one has day3
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 19 2010 06:18 GMT
#1292
people are saying zergs are getting killed because of T. but Zerg has eliminated 3 P(inclufing 2 no shows) and 3 T and P has eliminated 6 Z and T has eliminated 6 Z (inclufing 1 no show).

So Zerg is 1-6 in matches vs toss and 3-5 in matches vs T.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
September 19 2010 06:57 GMT
#1293
On September 19 2010 15:18 PrinceXizor wrote:
people are saying zergs are getting killed because of T. but Zerg has eliminated 3 P(inclufing 2 no shows) and 3 T and P has eliminated 6 Z and T has eliminated 6 Z (inclufing 1 no show).

So Zerg is 1-6 in matches vs toss and 3-5 in matches vs T.


Which makes Cool's comments about ZvP being a harder matchup than ZvT make a little more sense.

The real interesting thing is - Patch 1.1 launches Wednesday... won't that be like Ro16 Day 2?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 19 2010 07:14 GMT
#1294
On September 19 2010 15:57 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 15:18 PrinceXizor wrote:
people are saying zergs are getting killed because of T. but Zerg has eliminated 3 P(inclufing 2 no shows) and 3 T and P has eliminated 6 Z and T has eliminated 6 Z (inclufing 1 no show).

So Zerg is 1-6 in matches vs toss and 3-5 in matches vs T.


Which makes Cool's comments about ZvP being a harder matchup than ZvT make a little more sense.

The real interesting thing is - Patch 1.1 launches Wednesday... won't that be like Ro16 Day 2?

the prevalent theme in tournaments is that ZvT seems to be split 50/50 but P eliminated alot of Z and T eliminates alot of P. ending up with ZvP alot in early rounds ending in PvT in the mid rounds and TvT in the late rounds/finals. but yeah ZvP is really hard to play vs good Ps
Tarrot
Profile Joined September 2010
Taiwan85 Posts
September 19 2010 12:17 GMT
#1295
On September 19 2010 15:57 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 15:18 PrinceXizor wrote:
people are saying zergs are getting killed because of T. but Zerg has eliminated 3 P(inclufing 2 no shows) and 3 T and P has eliminated 6 Z and T has eliminated 6 Z (inclufing 1 no show).

So Zerg is 1-6 in matches vs toss and 3-5 in matches vs T.


Which makes Cool's comments about ZvP being a harder matchup than ZvT make a little more sense.

The real interesting thing is - Patch 1.1 launches Wednesday... won't that be like Ro16 Day 2?


Tuesday and Wednesday is a holiday in Korea, so no games. It's the Moon Festival in Taiwan, not sure what the holiday is over there. Works out perfectly actually since it'll be in the down time between the RO32 and 16.
revdban
Profile Joined September 2010
1 Post
September 19 2010 18:18 GMT
#1296
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bRuTaL!!
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland588 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 19:23:59
September 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#1297
On September 19 2010 07:54 crazeman wrote:
The SC2 main site says the new patch is going to come out on Tuesday, I wonder how this is going to affect the GSL as it might fudge up a lot of player's strategies and they'll pretty much no time to practice/develop new ones.

I actually thought that blizzard would make up some excuse and delay the patch until after the GSL season 1 and before GSL season 2. I'd hate to see blizzard sabotage their own tournament esp if there are unannounced big changes in the patch.


On GomTV.net:

The Korean Thanksgiving holiday is next week from Sept. 21st (Tues.) to Sept. 23rd (Thur.).
Therefore there will be no matches during the three days of the holiday. Final matches of Ro32 will be
held on Sept. 20th (Mon.) and the first matches of Ro16 will begin after the holiday on Sept. 24th (Fri.).


I wonder if Blizzard and GomTV discussed this... In anycase players have a couple of days to see what the patch brings.
Tasteless: "What was it Hans Solo was frozen in? Kryptonite?" Artosis: "Lol, no. Thats the stuff that hurts Batman."
damon2400
Profile Joined April 2009
United States172 Posts
September 19 2010 19:56 GMT
#1298
So my premium Gom account deleted itself when I used the change password form on their website.

Has anyone had this problem besides me?
hkfosho
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada213 Posts
September 19 2010 20:06 GMT
#1299
On September 19 2010 15:18 PrinceXizor wrote:
people are saying zergs are getting killed because of T. but Zerg has eliminated 3 P(inclufing 2 no shows) and 3 T and P has eliminated 6 Z and T has eliminated 6 Z (inclufing 1 no show).

So Zerg is 1-6 in matches vs toss and 3-5 in matches vs T.


stilll does not change the fact that terran is op in tvz.
grax
Profile Joined June 2009
United States41 Posts
September 19 2010 22:32 GMT
#1300
I don't understand why they would distribute the GSL prize pool this way:

Total $170,000
1st $85,700
2nd $25,700
3rd $8,600
4th $8,600
5th-8th $3,400
9th-16th $1710
17th-32nd $430
33th-64th $260

( http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Starcraft_II_Open_1 )


It's so skewed to first (85k for #1 vs 25k for #2?!) and third and fourth both get the same amount. These numbers don't make any sense at all -- I'd love to know who came up with them and how/why.
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