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Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
September 22 2010 20:53 GMT
#261
@Semi finals go4sc2
madfrog vs adelscott.

1th game 7 pool on delta finishing off adel easy.

2th game Madfrog doing some insane stuff , 3 hatch before queen on kulas ravine? 4 hatch before any tech units.. Just wish it had worked, but it failed big time

3th game was a mess. I was rooting so hard for madfrog, but his build on meta was just horrible He most certently could have gotten away with a hatch first on meta, specially after zealot build nerf, but he was opting to go a late like 15 pool, long before expo, even tho had had banked like 350 minerals. Not sure what happened there, but he got rolled over by 4 warpgate vs lings/banelings.

Was so dissapointed after his insane skill in the quarters against SjoW. Everyone has to see the game on Xel Naga! I believe that was game 3. Best match I have seen after the g1 of TLOvsHyperdub
Tamotab
Profile Joined September 2010
France38 Posts
September 22 2010 21:21 GMT
#262
Nice game so far between Adel and Jinpo. Zealots + Immortals are really effective against Tanks now !
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
September 22 2010 21:25 GMT
#263
On September 23 2010 06:21 Tamotab wrote:
Nice game so far between Adel and Jinpo. Zealots + Immortals are really effective against Tanks now !


Immortal has allways been effective against tanks , but ye, its refreshing to see zealots not instantly vanish while charging.
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
September 22 2010 21:40 GMT
#264
I`m undecided how to rate Madfrogs play. His double-Hatch opening and mass-expo style looks very neat once it is running but I don`t know if it is competitive once the oponent knows what to expect. Nevertheless ZvT looks way more interesting after the patch as the Zerg seems to have a bit more time to get into the midgame without a huge economic disadvantage.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 21:55:45
September 22 2010 21:49 GMT
#265
On September 23 2010 06:40 Irrational_Animal wrote:
I`m undecided how to rate Madfrogs play. His double-Hatch opening and mass-expo style looks very neat once it is running but I don`t know if it is competitive once the oponent knows what to expect. Nevertheless ZvT looks way more interesting after the patch as the Zerg seems to have a bit more time to get into the midgame without a huge economic disadvantage.


Its so frustrating since his the only player im truely rooting for And TLO ofc...

He doesnt have to play like this now after patch. You can pretty much safe hatch first on most maps, and drone up. The 4 hatch when he had like 15 lings was just insane, and could only work if adelscott had not attacked at all.

The game against sjow on xel naga it worked though, due to the failed preigniter hellion drop. Sjow was like 50 supply behind entire game, but fucking hatch sniping kept him in.with 2 vs 4.base.

Game on metalopolis was just sad though, and build order loss for madfrog. He needs to work on his ZvP, but his ZvT is exellent.
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
September 22 2010 21:58 GMT
#266
Madfrog just does his own thing, he was the same in WC3. He claims not to watch any replays (which I can definitely believe from watching him play) and he doesn't play (m)any custom practice games either. He seems to just develop his own builds in isolation and practice them on the ladder.
Tamotab
Profile Joined September 2010
France38 Posts
September 22 2010 21:59 GMT
#267
A bit disappointed by the last two games, I think that Jimpo GG too early...

(Vive Adel ! Vive la France !)

Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 22:08:18
September 22 2010 22:00 GMT
#268
Hm one thing that concerns me about MFs build is that you reach T2 quite late and also do not have many Queens. So wouldn´t a harass with hellions (mainly to force him to invest in many lings and to hurt the Queen) followed by 2 Banshees be quite lethal against this?
@Cupatea: I agree but wouldn`t you say this his style is quite risky once the surprise effect vanishes? Madfrog did not play many cups recently and it generally was very quite about him so today it seemed that he could catch someone like Sjow pretty offguard. But sooner or later he will be forced to play more tournys as he is a fulltime pro and i wonder if it would be more reasonable to adapt to standard builds then.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
September 22 2010 23:05 GMT
#269
Dunno if its intentional or what, but he seem to generate like up to 2k unspent minerals pretty early every single game. It does make sence if you are 100% sure you are not gonna get attacked, and just make 70 drones, like he did alot of the games, but its extreamly risky if you get tricked by a good hidden timing attack.
Forsti.henning
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany220 Posts
September 23 2010 06:40 GMT
#270
there is space for 2 more hatches ^^
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
September 26 2010 11:15 GMT
#271
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 26 2010 11:26 GMT
#272
Added to the calendar!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 26 2010 14:00 GMT
#273
Wow even though dimaga lost, that was an amazing game !
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 26 2010 14:01 GMT
#274
10 pool is the only way to play vs P these days:x
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 26 2010 14:02 GMT
#275
dimaga picked T for his Zotac game:O
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
pikkumyy
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland58 Posts
September 26 2010 14:06 GMT
#276
Dimaga as terrain :sadpanda:
lolwhat
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden58 Posts
September 26 2010 14:36 GMT
#277
insane good game by bunny to take out mana
Catch my soul cause it's willing to fly away
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 26 2010 14:44 GMT
#278
On September 26 2010 23:36 lolwhat wrote:
insane good game by bunny to take out mana

that guy came from the russian servers so maybe some more hidden talent in there?:O
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-26 15:04:51
September 26 2010 15:01 GMT
#279
Mass burrow roach is becoming standard in zvp, don't know why people go storm anymore

Bunny seemed to keep pretty high in my division compared to terrans (thats how you judge good zerg players these days ^^ how close are they to terrans in points lol), though seems to be inactive now. Playing russian servers or what??
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
September 26 2010 15:34 GMT
#280
Just tuned in... God why does Ragequit.tv keep getting this same awful caster that can't speak clearly? Oh well *watches on BigT's channel* Which stream do you guys recommend?
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
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