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On May 24 2010 22:13 G.s)NarutO wrote: Mech as Terran is really strong; you can beat far better players even when being worse, but TLO also has the skill to back up so its even harder to beat good player doing it. One concern about mech is, losing a huge fight makes you lose the game entirely, good thing that nearly never happens.
gOGO tlo, make it 4-0. Tech switches are also hugely in T favor with mech. Z has so many different upgrades to get. I can't watch cause I don't have IE (someone stream <3!) but I assume Freedom didn't have full upgrades on mutas, ultras and hydra/roach at the same time.
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I guess that's a strategy from a guy who is out of ideas. Pretty depressing to see a top player in that state
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On May 24 2010 22:15 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2010 22:13 G.s)NarutO wrote: Mech as Terran is really strong; you can beat far better players even when being worse, but TLO also has the skill to back up so its even harder to beat good player doing it. One concern about mech is, losing a huge fight makes you lose the game entirely, good thing that nearly never happens.
gOGO tlo, make it 4-0. Tech switches are also hugely in T favor with mech. Z has so many different upgrades to get. I can't watch cause I don't have IE (someone stream <3!) but I assume Freedom didn't have full upgrades on mutas, ultras and hydra/roach at the same time.
TLO 4-0. Its like in Broodwar , if a mech terran hits critical mass on tanks + anti air, you are screwed.. but thats how it works. If I let Zerg take the whole map, it doesn't matter if my mainarmy is superstrong, when he can just build whatever he want and how often he wants^_-
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Freedom trying a baneling bust, but fails big time. Looks like he doesn't have an answer to TLO's mech build TT
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seems like freedom had no confidence beating tlo if he gets mech
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woa freedom realising he cant beat tlo straight up, at least on this map.
Feel sorry for the way he lost in that last game, it looked so sad T_T
Gratz TLO though, what a beast. 4-0, 4-0... unbelievable
any more games coming up?
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That's what I call a solid wall-in.
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that was a brutal whipping by TLO, hope they finish his series w/sen, would like to see how he handles the mech
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4:0. wp! TLOs build seems very strong vs. Z
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On May 24 2010 22:21 frumplejoon wrote: that was a brutal whipping by TLO, hope they finish his series w/sen, would like to see how he handles the mech
SEn is up by 2 games.. and I think SEn is better than Freedom in every aspect. Micro, Macro, Multitasking and overall gameplay / army composition.
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woot, TLO just beat Freedom 4-0?
i think Liquid need to make sure some koreans doens't kidnap him soon -,-
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Wow, I actually expected Freedom to mop the floor with TLO. I shall have more faith from now on.
Still, I can't believe Asia's king of Zerg is struggling this hard against TLO.
Edit: I mean, Freedom was an actually mildly successful BW progamer! He should have insanely good mechanics AND he's dominating the Asia server.
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On May 24 2010 22:21 frumplejoon wrote: that was a brutal whipping by TLO, hope they finish his series w/sen, would like to see how he handles the mech
sen already went 2-0 vs TLO in a different tourney, the only Z player whos beaten TLO with his build so far I think. I only watched one game, where he beat TLO with a pretty early roach drop.
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On May 24 2010 22:20 7mk wrote: woa freedom realising he cant beat tlo straight up, at least on this map.
Feel sorry for the way he lost in that last game, it looked so sad T_T
Gratz TLO though, what a beast. 4-0, 4-0... unbelievable
any more games coming up?
I won't be surprised if it can go up to 20-0. Freedom can't beat mech..TLO or not.
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any info on when Demuslim is gonna play the other semifinal ?
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it's the same as in bw, you can't beat mech straight up, you need to harass, drop, nydus, burrowed roaches, expand and shit
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On May 24 2010 22:22 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2010 22:21 frumplejoon wrote: that was a brutal whipping by TLO, hope they finish his series w/sen, would like to see how he handles the mech sen already went 2-0 vs TLO in a different tourney, the only Z player whos beaten TLO with his build so far I think. I only watched one game, where he beat TLO with a pretty early roach drop. TLO was definitely up in G1 until that misstep (or non-step...) with his vikings. G2 was definitely in Sen's favor though.
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On May 24 2010 22:27 PredY wrote: it's the same as in bw, you can't beat mech straight up, you need to harass, drop, nydus, burrowed roaches, expand and shit yea but the issue is that no matter how much of a macro advantage u get u will never ever be able to take the terran head on.
the terran mech mix hard counters ALL zerg army compositions.
and also terran going mech still has better harassment tools then zerg does. So it's like you lose in the macro army composition department and you lose in harassment department
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TLO vs Sen would look very differently if they played whole series all over again. G1 TLO saw for the first time counter against his strategy. That counter imo worked because they were next to each other. OL drop would hardly to do that much damage if Sen would have had to move his OLs across the map w/o OL speed with vikings flying all over the map. Didn't see the G2, though. My point is that it's just 2 games and TLO was caught of guard. Still, I expect the games to be pretty even. I find it unlikely for Sen to rape TLO.
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