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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 13:16:47
May 24 2010 13:15 GMT
#381
On May 24 2010 22:13 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Mech as Terran is really strong; you can beat far better players even when being worse, but TLO also has the skill to back up so its even harder to beat good player doing it. One concern about mech is, losing a huge fight makes you lose the game entirely, good thing that nearly never happens.

gOGO tlo, make it 4-0.

Tech switches are also hugely in T favor with mech. Z has so many different upgrades to get. I can't watch cause I don't have IE (someone stream <3!) but I assume Freedom didn't have full upgrades on mutas, ultras and hydra/roach at the same time.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
May 24 2010 13:18 GMT
#382
I guess that's a strategy from a guy who is out of ideas. Pretty depressing to see a top player in that state
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 24 2010 13:18 GMT
#383
On May 24 2010 22:15 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 22:13 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Mech as Terran is really strong; you can beat far better players even when being worse, but TLO also has the skill to back up so its even harder to beat good player doing it. One concern about mech is, losing a huge fight makes you lose the game entirely, good thing that nearly never happens.

gOGO tlo, make it 4-0.

Tech switches are also hugely in T favor with mech. Z has so many different upgrades to get. I can't watch cause I don't have IE (someone stream <3!) but I assume Freedom didn't have full upgrades on mutas, ultras and hydra/roach at the same time.


TLO 4-0. Its like in Broodwar , if a mech terran hits critical mass on tanks + anti air, you are screwed.. but thats how it works. If I let Zerg take the whole map, it doesn't matter if my mainarmy is superstrong, when he can just build whatever he want and how often he wants^_-
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
rjT.
Profile Joined May 2008
Italy295 Posts
May 24 2010 13:19 GMT
#384
pure ownage!
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
May 24 2010 13:19 GMT
#385
Freedom trying a baneling bust, but fails big time. Looks like he doesn't have an answer to TLO's mech build TT
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 24 2010 13:20 GMT
#386
seems like freedom had no confidence beating tlo if he gets mech
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 13:20:51
May 24 2010 13:20 GMT
#387
woa freedom realising he cant beat tlo straight up, at least on this map.

Feel sorry for the way he lost in that last game, it looked so sad T_T

Gratz TLO though, what a beast. 4-0, 4-0... unbelievable

any more games coming up?
beep boop
Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
May 24 2010 13:20 GMT
#388
That's what I call a solid wall-in.
frumplejoon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States129 Posts
May 24 2010 13:21 GMT
#389
that was a brutal whipping by TLO, hope they finish his series w/sen, would like to see how he handles the mech
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
May 24 2010 13:21 GMT
#390
4:0. wp! TLOs build seems very strong vs. Z
keep it deep! @zulison
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 24 2010 13:21 GMT
#391
On May 24 2010 22:21 frumplejoon wrote:
that was a brutal whipping by TLO, hope they finish his series w/sen, would like to see how he handles the mech


SEn is up by 2 games.. and I think SEn is better than Freedom in every aspect. Micro, Macro, Multitasking and overall gameplay / army composition.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10307 Posts
May 24 2010 13:22 GMT
#392
woot, TLO just beat Freedom 4-0?

i think Liquid need to make sure some koreans doens't kidnap him soon -,-
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 13:25:59
May 24 2010 13:22 GMT
#393
Wow, I actually expected Freedom to mop the floor with TLO. I shall have more faith from now on.

Still, I can't believe Asia's king of Zerg is struggling this hard against TLO.

Edit: I mean, Freedom was an actually mildly successful BW progamer! He should have insanely good mechanics AND he's dominating the Asia server.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 13:23:12
May 24 2010 13:22 GMT
#394
On May 24 2010 22:21 frumplejoon wrote:
that was a brutal whipping by TLO, hope they finish his series w/sen, would like to see how he handles the mech


sen already went 2-0 vs TLO in a different tourney, the only Z player whos beaten TLO with his build so far I think.
I only watched one game, where he beat TLO with a pretty early roach drop.
beep boop
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
May 24 2010 13:22 GMT
#395
On May 24 2010 22:20 7mk wrote:
woa freedom realising he cant beat tlo straight up, at least on this map.

Feel sorry for the way he lost in that last game, it looked so sad T_T

Gratz TLO though, what a beast. 4-0, 4-0... unbelievable

any more games coming up?


I won't be surprised if it can go up to 20-0. Freedom can't beat mech..TLO or not.
Hens
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany288 Posts
May 24 2010 13:25 GMT
#396
any info on when Demuslim is gonna play the other semifinal ?
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
May 24 2010 13:27 GMT
#397
it's the same as in bw, you can't beat mech straight up, you need to harass, drop, nydus, burrowed roaches, expand and shit
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 24 2010 13:27 GMT
#398
On May 24 2010 22:22 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 22:21 frumplejoon wrote:
that was a brutal whipping by TLO, hope they finish his series w/sen, would like to see how he handles the mech


sen already went 2-0 vs TLO in a different tourney, the only Z player whos beaten TLO with his build so far I think.
I only watched one game, where he beat TLO with a pretty early roach drop.

TLO was definitely up in G1 until that misstep (or non-step...) with his vikings. G2 was definitely in Sen's favor though.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 13:38:18
May 24 2010 13:34 GMT
#399
On May 24 2010 22:27 PredY wrote:
it's the same as in bw, you can't beat mech straight up, you need to harass, drop, nydus, burrowed roaches, expand and shit

yea but the issue is that no matter how much of a macro advantage u get u will never ever be able to take the terran head on.

the terran mech mix hard counters ALL zerg army compositions.

and also terran going mech still has better harassment tools then zerg does.
So it's like you lose in the macro army composition department and you lose in harassment department
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
May 24 2010 13:38 GMT
#400
TLO vs Sen would look very differently if they played whole series all over again. G1 TLO saw for the first time counter against his strategy. That counter imo worked because they were next to each other. OL drop would hardly to do that much damage if Sen would have had to move his OLs across the map w/o OL speed with vikings flying all over the map. Didn't see the G2, though.
My point is that it's just 2 games and TLO was caught of guard. Still, I expect the games to be pretty even. I find it unlikely for Sen to rape TLO.
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