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Bane_
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 13:33:24
April 19 2010 13:00 GMT
#1
OK first things first, it has already taken place so sorry about that!

Onto the match then. It was a series of 6 games played between Maka, everyone's favourite Korean terran, and (Z)Cool playing with a name that seems to translate as Fruit Trader. Cool also uses zerg in sc2 and in a snapshot of the Asian server stats taken yesterday he had both the highest rating (2335) and highest win percentage (72.9%, 191 wins and 71 losses) of all the top players. Ontop of that, he took 1st place in the recent PGR21 tournament so it is clear that he will prove a difficult challenge for Maka to overcome.

Without further ado then, the vods:

Game 1 - Lost Temple
Game 2 - Metalopolis
Game 3 - Metalopolis
Game 4 - Steppes of War
Game 5 - Steppes of War
Game 6 - Metalopolis

Not the most varied map selection but oh well...enjoy!

EDIT - Oh yes, there's also an interesting post on their forums. I'll stick the google translated version here as I think it gives a reasonable outline of what their plans are.

2010年世界杯将近,17173也模拟世界杯进行了一个星际争霸的版本,不过与世界杯不同的是,举办地点定在了中国,8个城市,8个小组,顶尖的星际2高手碰撞,让你享受最完美是视觉盛宴!
17173 will be held so far the world's largest "Star 2" tournament - StarCraft 2 World Cup. 2010 World Cup approaching, 17173 World Cup has also conducted a simulated version of StarCraft, but with the World Cup is different is that the venue be in China, eight cities, eight groups, top 2 masters interstellar collisions, let you enjoy the most perfect visual feast!

下周中国预选赛全面开战,4月26日起,韩国预选赛也拉开战幕,韩国最顶尖的几十位星际2选手将为了进入总决赛的几张韩国代表队门票而展开厮杀。
Qualifying full-scale war in China next week, April 26, the South Korean qualifier also sky, dozens of South Korea's top Starcraft 2 players will enter the finals to South Korean national team a few ticket start killing one another.

目前代表世界最顶尖的星际2选手——水果贩子、Freedom、MAKA等都已确定参赛,其他亚洲BN 靠前的几乎所有选手均已报名,再加上星际1韩国众职业战队的一些选手和曾经的韩国最强魔兽选手,可谓史上最豪华的阵容。
Now representing the world's top StarCraft 2 players - fruit dealers, Freedom, MAKA other entries have been identified, other Asian BN front of almost all the players have registration, together with the public employment Teams Star a number of Korean players and World of Warcraft players in Korea have been the strongest, indeed the history of the most luxurious lineup.

欧洲、美洲的众强手也纷纷摩拳擦掌,受邀参赛,究竟谁是目前《星际2》的王者之师,尽请期待17173星际争霸2世界杯!
Europe, the Americas have also gearing up the public strong opponents, was invited to play, Who is the "Star 2" king of the division, please do not expect 17 173 StarCraft 2 World Cup!

下周开始,星际2世界杯的预选赛全面拉开战幕,《一起一起来星际》栏目也全程直播此次赛事,希望大家多多关注,多多支持!
Next week, the World Cup qualifiers Star 2 full sky, "together with the Star" column also live transmission of the event, looking forward for your attention, more support!

另,中国区预选赛接受目前BN1600+的选手报名,如果你自认为实力够强,可以参加我们的水友考试,一旦过关,不用这个分数我们也会为了安排预选赛事。
Another Chinese qualifier to accept the current BN1600 + player application, the strength is strong enough if you think you can join our Friends of the examination of water, once the clearance, not the score we will do to arrange qualifying.

想与世界最顶尖的星际2高手切磋吗?
Would like the world's top masters demonstrate their Starcraft 2 it?

想在直播的数十万观众面前一展风采吗?
Want to live in front of hundreds of thousands of spectators to show their style it?

赶快来报名吧!
Come and register!


Original post : http://bbs.17173.com/thread/477/868/20100418/4bcb0d1d9cb379513-1.html
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
April 19 2010 13:07 GMT
#2
Anywhere to get replays on this?
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
Bane_
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom494 Posts
April 19 2010 13:17 GMT
#3
On April 19 2010 22:07 HDstarcraft wrote:
Anywhere to get replays on this?


I can't be sure of course but it seems unlikely they will release them. I check the site most days though so if they do appear they'll get a link in this thread.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
April 19 2010 15:26 GMT
#4
These videos are great. Thanks!
duckhunt
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada311 Posts
April 19 2010 15:43 GMT
#5
lol nice translation, i will watch the games i want to see korean superterran in action =D
lolreaper
Profile Joined April 2010
301 Posts
April 19 2010 15:47 GMT
#6
how to open it on fullscreen ...
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
April 19 2010 15:57 GMT
#7
i only get a black screen where the VoD should be guess you need any fancy Korean codec
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Bane_
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom494 Posts
April 19 2010 16:02 GMT
#8
On April 20 2010 00:57 Enox wrote:
i only get a black screen where the VoD should be guess you need any fancy Korean codec


You don't need any additional player installed as they are just flash videos I think, maybe you've got noscript or a similar extension for your browser which is blocking them from loading?
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
April 19 2010 16:07 GMT
#9
On April 20 2010 01:02 Bane_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2010 00:57 Enox wrote:
i only get a black screen where the VoD should be guess you need any fancy Korean codec


You don't need any additional player installed as they are just flash videos I think, maybe you've got noscript or a similar extension for your browser which is blocking them from loading?


thx! it was Adblock Plus works now
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
April 20 2010 02:17 GMT
#10
im so bad at vod watching,, they never seem to look at what i wnat to see when i want to see it

they should do split screen fpvods
8===D~~
creepcolony
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany362 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 03:37:25
April 20 2010 02:51 GMT
#11
On April 20 2010 00:47 lolreaper wrote:
how to open it on fullscreen ...


Firefox -> Wont work.
IE -> Will work.
edi2t: at least for me

edit: i totally forgot: thank you very much for these nice vods sir.
Chicken_Wings
Profile Joined March 2010
12 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 03:18:43
April 20 2010 03:18 GMT
#12
TY BANE!

EDIT: Firefox works for me. :D
SouP.
Profile Joined February 2010
United States25 Posts
April 20 2010 03:41 GMT
#13
If someone could upload these to youtube it would be much appreciated. They have one of the worst players I've used and I just can't stand it.
Bane_
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 11:21:01
April 20 2010 11:17 GMT
#14
A bit more info has been surfacing on their forum regarding the starcraft 2 world cup they have planned. It seems that the goal is to have a total of 32 players for the main event, with 8 from China, 8 from Korea, 8 from the USA and 8 from Europe (this part is unconfirmed for now, well the USA and Europe teams anyway...but it does seem that they expect to have 32 players).

Qualifying for the Chinese positions already began today with 12 players fighting it out for 3 semi-final spots. No doubt there'll be a steady stream of similar events and info throughout the week.

More interesting for now is that a list of names for the Korean squad was posted up. Freedom, Check, Maka and Cool have all received automatic invites while the remaining 4 spots will be taken by the winners of a 16 player qualification process, those involved are listed below:

cosmic, hongjinho, isskincom, yongsukchang
gerrard, ssjm, zenio, dayfly
thewind, spunky, hannibal, leeraeun
ssks, anypro, slayersboxer, babybaby

Subs incase people don't turn up: inca, bluemassage, pelias

It'll be a pretty sick lineup.

Has anyone heard anything else regarding the event?
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
April 20 2010 15:06 GMT
#15
<3 maka. Thanks for the VODs for those of us without beta!! Greatly appreciated!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 20 2010 18:15 GMT
#16
It's always nice to see organizations attempt to generate interest in SC 2 (even before the game is released!), and 17173.com is doing a great job at that with the world cup. It's unfortunate that SC 2 faces a number of issues in China due to the internet infrastructure, political situation, etc., but it's nice to see them try nonetheless.

Thanks for giving us a heads up, Bane.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 19:08:47
April 20 2010 19:06 GMT
#17
So, watching a few of the replays and VODs from Korean and Chinese players, it seems that Zerg has taken a clear lead in Asian SC 2, while Terran is clearly behind. The most common match-up seems to be PvZ.

Edit: a typical PvZ from top platinum players in Asia - http://media.17173.com/sc2/2010-04-20/20100420201110585.shtml
ffz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States490 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 20:28:20
April 20 2010 19:45 GMT
#18
Wow... every game was so exciting. having some problems viewing game 5 but rest of them were top notch. Why didn't these guys get invited to Star War?
Meow.
Joseki
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States200 Posts
April 21 2010 19:23 GMT
#19
Gah I hate streaming from asian websites, takes forever. =( Post if/when you get replays please!~
Battle.net 2.0 - The only place you can be alone with 20,000 other people.
Bane_
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-27 00:14:01
April 27 2010 00:10 GMT
#20
They've since hosted two more showmatches so I figured it was worth linking the vods here again for those who don't check the 17173.com site.

1. hannibal (T) vs Spunky (P) in a best of 7. hannibal had the highest rating pre-reset (2412) and can reasonably claim to be one of the top terrans on the Asian server as he has placed quite well in a number of their tournaments. (P)Spunky is yet another of what seems like a legion of retired progamers who have resurfaced looking to make a name for themselves again in this new game and was Garimto's pick as the best sc2 protoss when asked during his interview with Artosis. I should note these were played on the 23rd of April (still patch 8) but I don't think that detracts from the games as they play well and employ a range of strategies throughout the series.

Game 1 - Metalopolis
Game 2 - Blistering Sands
Game 3 - Lost Temple
Game 4 - Kulas Ravine
Game 5 - Steppes of War
Game 6 - Scrap Station
Game 7 - Lost Temple


2. DayFly (T) vs Check (Z) in a best of 5. You might well have expected the races to be Orc and Night Elf...but no, we find ourselves in new and exciting times and both players are fully committed to reliving the progaming dream in sc2. Check has consistently had the most games played on the Asian server and must be close if not over the 5000 mark by now. I think he has also been a part of pretty much every tournament they've held over there to date with a string of high finishes. DayFly has been almost invisible by comparison, presumably smurfing or sticking to private games as he hasn't featured in any tournaments or ladder ranking lists, yet his play is definitely of a high calibre when judged by current standards. This series was played yesterday (today for some?) on the 26th of April so it remains perfectly relevant.

Game 1 - Incineration Zone
Game 2 - Scrap Station
Game 3 - Steppes of War
Game 4 - Desert Oasis
Game 5 - Metalopolis

Enjoy.


As for the sc2 world cup, it seems they have put a halt on the planned qualifiers for now as Blizzard have been slow in certifying it (i.e. they still haven't) and it is pointless to get too far along in the process with that uncertainty hanging around. The info posted above about the Korean team still seems to be current and I've not found anything as yet discussing the potential EU/USA teams.

More was finalized for the Chinese team however, with the following 8 players apparently receiving direct invites: Loner, E3_Super, Beckham, V.A_MTY, Newlife, W_Y_W, V.A_xiaOt and S.C_WAWP. There are then 16 players who will have to earn their place by topping the following groups:

A. SCI)_DPR , S.C_Vulture , EricPanda , Empty
B. ACE , E3_FengZi , StriveMacSed , xiaozhu
C. S.C_PJ , V.A_GoL , DEEP , Gale
D. F91 , 小白兔 , Evil , Main

Hopefully it goes ahead since there are so many big Korean and Chinese names involved that it should blow away all of the previous tournaments in the beta.
samuraibael
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia294 Posts
April 27 2010 01:29 GMT
#21
Would love to watch these but this site is too painful to watch anything on.
Bane_
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-28 13:48:53
April 28 2010 12:50 GMT
#22
It seems they can't get enough of these right now as they held yet another today on the 28th. It was intended to be Ace vs sSJM (who may well be (Z)Max as the similarly named sSKS really is (P)TesteR), a very strong zerg player who managed to maintain a 70% win ratio right up until the last reset (with 275 wins and 117 losses and a 2247 rating). sSJM had to pull out however so Cool stepped in to take his place.

Ace (P) vs Cool (Z) in a best of 7. I think Cool needs no introduction beyond a small update to his ladder stats (pre-reset he had 233 wins, 102 losses and a 2272 rating). Ace is a Chinese protoss player who has made a pretty strong showing in SC2 so far. He dominated the Chinese qualifier for Starswar Reborn and continued to impress during the main event, with his team 3-0 down to the Koreans he went on to take them all out and seal a 4-3 victory. Can he step up again versus today's arguably stronger opponent?

Game 1 - Lost Temple
Game 2 - Desert Oasis
Game 3 - Metalopolis
Game 4 - Kulas Ravine
Game 5 - Steppes of War
Game 6 - Scrap Station
Game 7 - Kulas Ravine

There are some genuinely great moments in the series so it is well worth watching.

Apologies to those who can't watch these by the way, I'm not aware of anywhere else rehosting the vods sadly.
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
April 28 2010 13:36 GMT
#23
Thanks for the updates.
samuraibael
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia294 Posts
April 28 2010 17:49 GMT
#24
I suffered through the chinese player and it was worth it. The micro on display here seems well above us/eu.
Bane_
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom494 Posts
April 28 2010 18:58 GMT
#25
On April 28 2010 22:36 cuppatea wrote:
Thanks for the updates.


Hey no worries, it just seemed a shame to me that they get next to no coverage as they've been hosting a lot of interesting stuff during the beta so far.

On April 29 2010 02:49 samuraibael wrote:
I suffered through the chinese player and it was worth it. The micro on display here seems well above us/eu.


Did you have buffering nonstop through the whole series?
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
April 28 2010 19:48 GMT
#26
Wow I forgot about this thread. Thanks for continuing to post these! Love to see stuff from the Asian scene
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 28 2010 22:24 GMT
#27
On April 29 2010 02:49 samuraibael wrote:
I suffered through the chinese player and it was worth it. The micro on display here seems well above us/eu.

this was probably because asians are trying to find a solution for the problems at hand while the rest of the world whines.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
NightOne
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada215 Posts
April 30 2010 16:08 GMT
#28
this is an awesome thread.. keep up the good work :D
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9990 Posts
April 30 2010 18:16 GMT
#29
yup very nice thread
enjoying every one of these games, keep it up!
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ektegjetost
Profile Joined April 2010
United States5 Posts
April 30 2010 20:29 GMT
#30
did the ace vs cool match on metalopolis just stop right at the most exciting part for anyone else?
Bane_
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom494 Posts
April 30 2010 20:52 GMT
#31
On May 01 2010 05:29 ektegjetost wrote:
did the ace vs cool match on metalopolis just stop right at the most exciting part for anyone else?


If you move the time forward about a second or so it should resume playing, I'm not sure why they stall like that occasionally.
frumplejoon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States129 Posts
May 01 2010 23:05 GMT
#32
On May 01 2010 05:52 Bane_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 05:29 ektegjetost wrote:
did the ace vs cool match on metalopolis just stop right at the most exciting part for anyone else?


If you move the time forward about a second or so it should resume playing, I'm not sure why they stall like that occasionally.


nah it looks like the game crashed for one of the players or something, you can see the observers continuing but the action is frozen
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 23:23:13
May 01 2010 23:20 GMT
#33
LOL that game on metalipolis super is doing his version of flash build with protoss! creep away from his base to the other main by building cannons along the way, it was a hilarious game of cannon defense. He managed to held off 5 waves of 200/200 zerg army before he GGs
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
OgerAffe
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany48 Posts
May 02 2010 15:32 GMT
#34
any more korean vods/replays avaible? its fun to watch
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-03 16:26:36
May 03 2010 15:14 GMT
#35
On April 28 2010 21:50 Bane_ wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
It seems they can't get enough of these right now as they held yet another today on the 28th. It was intended to be Ace vs sSJM (who may well be (Z)Max as the similarly named sSKS really is (P)TesteR), a very strong zerg player who managed to maintain a 70% win ratio right up until the last reset (with 275 wins and 117 losses and a 2247 rating). sSJM had to pull out however so Cool stepped in to take his place.


Ace (P) vs Cool (Z) in a best of 7. I think Cool needs no introduction beyond a small update to his ladder stats (pre-reset he had 233 wins, 102 losses and a 2272 rating). Ace is a Chinese protoss player who has made a pretty strong showing in SC2 so far. He dominated the Chinese qualifier for Starswar Reborn and continued to impress during the main event, with his team 3-0 down to the Koreans he went on to take them all out and seal a 4-3 victory. Can he step up again versus today's arguably stronger opponent?

Game 1 - Lost Temple
Game 2 - Desert Oasis
Game 3 - Metalopolis
Game 4 - Kulas Ravine
Game 5 - Steppes of War
Game 6 - Scrap Station
Game 7 - Kulas Ravine

There are some genuinely great moments in the series so it is well worth watching.

Apologies to those who can't watch these by the way, I'm not aware of anywhere else rehosting the vods sadly.


thanks for this.. wondrous exhibition of gaoshou-ness.
大家从高手两位好好学习

On April 27 2010 10:29 samuraibael wrote:
Would love to watch these but this site is too painful to watch anything on.


ask for help. quoting your ineptness doesn't warrant its own post.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-03 16:25:30
May 03 2010 16:24 GMT
#36
double posted again. sry. my proxy server stalls out. and i fail
Powda
Profile Joined February 2010
United States116 Posts
May 03 2010 20:02 GMT
#37
As cool as a lot of the micro seems, these players just don't play strategically up to par with EU/US players.

In other words, I'm confident they would get smashed in a trans server tourny.

I about fell asleep in most the games.
1a2a3a4a
Powda
Profile Joined February 2010
United States116 Posts
May 03 2010 20:52 GMT
#38
Korean protoss players seem to not know what a sentry does vs zerg. This protoss has amazing micro, but plays sc2 terribly.
1a2a3a4a
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
May 03 2010 22:58 GMT
#39
On May 04 2010 05:02 Powda wrote:
As cool as a lot of the micro seems, these players just don't play strategically up to par with EU/US players.

In other words, I'm confident they would get smashed in a trans server tourny.

I about fell asleep in most the games.


Just watched some of the games Tester (top Korean Protoss) played in the recent Gosu Coaching cup (which he won without dropping a map) and he basically just manhandled some of North America's finest.
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
May 04 2010 01:40 GMT
#40
On May 04 2010 07:58 cuppatea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2010 05:02 Powda wrote:
As cool as a lot of the micro seems, these players just don't play strategically up to par with EU/US players.

In other words, I'm confident they would get smashed in a trans server tourny.

I about fell asleep in most the games.


Just watched some of the games Tester (top Korean Protoss) played in the recent Gosu Coaching cup (which he won without dropping a map) and he basically just manhandled some of North America's finest.


Perhaps, when the koreans play, to us, it seems like bad strategy, but they've already figured out why that strategy works and how to deal with our "counters".
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 00:33:35
May 05 2010 00:32 GMT
#41
i felt so disgusted while watching MAKA vs Fruit Trader.....

zerg is clearly the most overpowered race at the moment. for example, in the 2nd metalopolis game, where MAKA builds exterior baracks, i cannot believe fruit trade was able to defend it so easily without even scouting or anticipating it. And after the attack, he simply gets mutalisks and wins because marines are so weak they cannot do a thing? disgusted...

and the next game in which fruit trader rushes with fast roach and the queen. in that game, i was just like what the fuck... fruity boy should do that every single game its freaking impossible to stop.

it seemed like even though both MAKA and fruity boy are on top of their respective races, fruity boy has a much larger advatnage that he can easily take wins whenever he wants to from MAKA.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
Bane_
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-06 01:18:45
May 06 2010 01:09 GMT
#42
So, yet another slow update with games many have probably already watched, oh well.

1. Freedom vs Super // Freedom vs 小白兔, 6 matches in all. I've listed these together as both of his opponents are Chinese protoss players but in theory the showmatch was vs Super, billed as a revenge fight as he hoped to make up for Freedom crushing him in the semi-final of the China Hero Cup. I honestly don't know anything about either of the two Chinese players however and everyone already knows how awesome Freedom is, so vods ahoy:

Super
Game 1 - Incineration Zone
Game 2 - Desert Oasis
Game 3 - Metalopolis
Game 4 - Lost Temple

小白兔
Game 1 - Kulas Ravine
Game 2 - Metalopolis - The commentators loved this one and you will too!

2. hannibal vs Gerrard in a best of 5. hannibal is a Korean terran user, already featured in an earlier showmatch. From watching his recent play I'd say he is definitely closing the skill gap that previously existed between him and Maka, coming agonizingly close to beating him in a best of 3 in the PlayXP exhibition last Friday. Gerrard is not someone I'm familiar with though (is he wearing an sc pro's uniform in his picture?). He's a zerg user who had a 40-18 record before the reset and according to the match announcement he is maintaining a ~70% win rate again so he surely has to be a decent player.

Game 1 - Kulas Ravine
Game 2 - Metalopolis
Game 3 - Scrap Station
Game 4 - Lost Temple
Game 5 - Desert Oasis - Does this match fail to play back correctly for anyone else? It's a bit of a tease not knowing how things ended.

Happy viewing!
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5412 Posts
May 06 2010 01:18 GMT
#43
There was an excellent Korean War3 player named Gerrard.WeRRa back in the beta... I vaguely recall him having played BW too, but I don't remember what his ID was back then.

I remember being in a bnet channel (...those were the days...) with him in the War3 beta, and these Blizzard employees were trying to get him to send in his replays to Blizzard, but he spoke no English... (his record was like 275-25 at the time). Kind of funny how I still remember that.
Bane_
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom494 Posts
May 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#44
On May 06 2010 10:18 SoleSteeler wrote:
There was an excellent Korean War3 player named Gerrard.WeRRa back in the beta... I vaguely recall him having played BW too, but I don't remember what his ID was back then.

I remember being in a bnet channel (...those were the days...) with him in the War3 beta, and these Blizzard employees were trying to get him to send in his replays to Blizzard, but he spoke no English... (his record was like 275-25 at the time). Kind of funny how I still remember that.


Well I'm glad you did remember it since that's all good to know! Looking via google he seems to have been at his peak during RoC and he took part in the proleagues that MBC and OGN ran also.

I wish they'd slow down with the matches though as yet another has appeared and it seems like one more is planned for tomorrow.

Maka vs InCa in a best of 5. These two recently clashed in the final of the PlayXP exhibition and InCa managed to take the win so Maka will no doubt be looking to try and step up a gear in his play today. They talk of InCa as being a bit of a rookie so I'm unsure whether he's previously made an impact in either sc or wc3, although [InCa] was a fairly big sc clan name wasn't it? In sc2 he is a NEX member (seemingly the big new team for aspiring sc2 pros) alongside Maka and of late his protoss play has been incredibly strong, beating Tester and then Maka in consecutive best of 3s is no mean feat after all. Anyway, regardless of how it turns out it promises to be a great matchup.

Game 1 - Incineration Zone
Game 2 - Lost Temple
Game 3 - Steppes of War
Game 4 - Lost Temple
Game 5 - Steppes of War
Prodtoss
Profile Joined May 2010
China849 Posts
May 06 2010 14:52 GMT
#45
and a show match MAKA VS SEN here

http://media.17173.com/sc2/2010-05-06/20100506182534858.shtml

and tomorrow will be INCA VS SEN Show match BO5

rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
May 06 2010 15:11 GMT
#46
The hosts said that they wanted to get some American Sc2 big names on the show. I think they want LZgamer!
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Prodtoss
Profile Joined May 2010
China849 Posts
May 07 2010 07:18 GMT
#47
INCA(protoss) VS SEN(zerg) Show match BO5 now on live

http://live.17173.com/sc2/g_index.shtml
ZGeer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States87 Posts
May 07 2010 08:04 GMT
#48
Interesting games so far. Sen expands like nobodies business.
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
May 07 2010 08:22 GMT
#49
Ugh man it's not looking pretty. I don't wanna spoil it though, lol.
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
Prodtoss
Profile Joined May 2010
China849 Posts
May 07 2010 08:28 GMT
#50
It looks Zerg is overpowered....Sen is ex-broodwar progamer from Taiwan. Inca is PTX champion from Korea
ZGeer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States87 Posts
May 07 2010 08:50 GMT
#51
That was a slaughter... my goodness!
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 09:06:42
May 07 2010 08:54 GMT
#52
On May 05 2010 09:32 ramen247 wrote:
i felt so disgusted while watching MAKA vs Fruit Trader.....

zerg is clearly the most overpowered race at the moment. for example, in the 2nd metalopolis game, where MAKA builds exterior baracks, i cannot believe fruit trade was able to defend it so easily without even scouting or anticipating it. And after the attack, he simply gets mutalisks and wins because marines are so weak they cannot do a thing? disgusted...

and the next game in which fruit trader rushes with fast roach and the queen. in that game, i was just like what the fuck... fruity boy should do that every single game its freaking impossible to stop.


2nd metalopolis game... terran proxies two barracks and pumps marines, in addition to one pumping marauders and his factory with some hellions. the proxy was pretty useless as he could just have built those two rax in his base instead as he had to wait for his main army from his base to attack anyway, and rallied marine reinforcements made little difference that late into the game. if he had had a more marauder heavy army he would have walked over the zerg there and then. however, he switched to marauders a bit later and still kept building hellions and didnt see a spire, so YES, the 3-5 marines he had got raped by 4-10 mutalisks. imbalanced? i don't think so, I just think that you like to look at a game and go "Lol imbalanced cause terran lost and I play terran" instead of looking at the game in its context and see why a player *really* lost.

the "queen" rush ? terran scouted the zerg was 1 base and saw roaches, yet opted for a 2 factory build going for fast tanks. the roaches alone would have won that attack because the terran had no army to deal with the 1 base build as he was himself teching. "freaking impossible to stop" ? no, it really isn't. he would have won easily without the queen there, it only had energy to heal once, and besides the queen speed off creep was nerfed in a latest patch and these games were before that. to me, you seem like a bronze/practice league terran with no understanding of the game. look how badly maka got crushed in the last game when he tried going for mutas
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
May 11 2010 21:50 GMT
#53
lol Sen destroyed inca 5-0 what a rape.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
damon2400
Profile Joined April 2009
United States172 Posts
May 11 2010 22:41 GMT
#54
Thank you very much sir for taking the time to translate and post all of this.
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