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PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia987 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-30 02:49:53
April 30 2016 02:49 GMT
#21
On April 29 2016 22:44 DjayEl wrote:
Hi PiG!

I'm on the other side: I played a lot of muta wars back in HotS and developed a good feeling about it, and I wish I can safely do that again in LotV. So far, I've trouble keeping my 3rd base alive if they decide to go full roach to put pressure, whereas in HotS I could just let it die, stay on 2 bases and put 4-5 spines up my ramp if I saw a big roach attacked devised to kill me.

In your opinion, what can I do to protect myself, and is it even possible, or a good roach player would always kill me if he sees I'm going for mutas on time? I'd like to know the safest way to do it as well as the best transitions out of it, if necessary.

Thanks a lot for your guides, it is so helping.



I think the way Dark does it is one of the most solid ways to play 3-base muta. It's obviously strongest on Dusk, but can work super reliably on any long rush distance map. On some maps you have to give up the 3rd and just defend the natural with roach/spine but once mutas are out they won't have any real economy (can't really drone their 3rd very well because they have to invest in so many spores and queens) and your muta harass and map control will get you back into at least an even spot.

Skip to 36:00


Note the early roach warren he's ready to use to build unupgraded roaches to help efficiently defend any roach-bane attacks
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DjayEl
Profile Joined August 2010
France252 Posts
April 30 2016 11:59 GMT
#22
Thanks a lot PiG, that was exactly what I was looking for!
DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
April 30 2016 13:27 GMT
#23
While I applaud any such contribution to help out lower level players, the title is awfully misleading. There is no such thing as a safe and solid build. There are always scenarios where you end up behind.
PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia987 Posts
May 01 2016 06:17 GMT
#24
On April 30 2016 22:27 DonDomingo wrote:
While I applaud any such contribution to help out lower level players, the title is awfully misleading. There is no such thing as a safe and solid build. There are always scenarios where you end up behind.


And there are often ways you can react and adjust to mitigate that!

I do get where you're coming from though. I posted the OP in January and if I had the power to change the title now it would probably read something like "How to reliably and safely secure and use a fast 3rd base"
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Railgan
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Switzerland1507 Posts
May 02 2016 17:02 GMT
#25
3 Hatch 38 drones 2 Gas allins are still a problem in ZvZ
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