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[D]9 Overlord or 10 Overlord? - Page 4

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Wi)nD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada719 Posts
April 24 2010 04:04 GMT
#61
lol good to know, i guess ibeen doing it wrong
carlcarlsen
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany9 Posts
May 11 2010 13:23 GMT
#62
On April 24 2010 07:08 zLnoEk wrote:
I get my overlord at 9 every game. I didn't do any actual /research/. But, it /feels/ like it's faster.


similar here. I didn't care too much about the economic advantage (but now that I know that - even better!) but rather the psychological advantage in terms of "okay, if the other guy is rushing me, I need to worry less about the food count when I (have to) place my pool earlier than planned."
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
May 11 2010 14:13 GMT
#63
I've always done the 9 ovie, but I have no actual data on it, other than the assumption, that sitting at 3 larvae should generally be avoided. And doing the extractor trick seems like a loss with a potential to fuck things up even more.
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Gulzt
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 19:26:10
March 06 2012 19:23 GMT
#64
Bumping an old topic but with a good reason:
It is widely accepted that 9 lord is fastest, then 10extr, then 10 lord, right?

Now a slightly different question. The reason 9 lord is faster is because the mining-time you lose on drone 10, is made back by drone 11 & 12 right?

But what if you're going 11 pool? I noticed in the GSL Code A this season July vs Hero that July goes 10 lord.. the slowest of the 3 according to everyone. But only gets drone 11 out afterwards and then his pool.
http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66733/?set=2&lang=

Made me wonder, did July test it all out and is it the fastest way when you go 11 pool?
It seems to make sense given that you're not getting your 12th drone right away.

What are your thoughts on it?
Tal0n
Profile Joined April 2010
United States175 Posts
March 06 2012 22:05 GMT
#65
one drone (the 10th) will mine about as much as 2 will in the difference of time when the 11/18 and 12/18 supply drones pop out and when 11-13/18 supply drones pop out on 10 overlord.

have you ever tried 8 overlord?
Gulzt
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands275 Posts
March 07 2012 16:14 GMT
#66
I suppose this article says it all:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133917
kaluro
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands760 Posts
March 07 2012 17:15 GMT
#67
On April 08 2010 08:52 Zelniq wrote:
@ bongjwa: cus overlords took so much longer to build in BWit was better to just get your 9th first. think about the extreme, if overlord took 5 minutes to build in bw woldnt it make sense to get drone first


No, because if it took 5 minutes to spawn, you would be maxing 3 larvae for longer than if you would go overlord first.
Those seconds you could queue up 3 workers at a time.

Getting those workers out faster means faster additional larvae and faster mining time for those drones. a single drone that mines 40 minerals/minute would not be better than faster larvae/faster 3 drones.

But then again I never played BW and dont know how fast 50 minerals would go when capped without having spawned an overlord.
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XxMulexX
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Canada57 Posts
March 07 2012 17:32 GMT
#68
No, because if it took 5 minutes to spawn, you would be maxing 3 larvae for longer than if you would go overlord first.
Those seconds you could queue up 3 workers at a time.

Getting those workers out faster means faster additional larvae and faster mining time for those drones. a single drone that mines 40 minerals/minute would not be better than faster larvae/faster 3 drones.

But then again I never played BW and dont know how fast 50 minerals would go when capped without having spawned an overlord.


That's wrong. He used the exaggeration of an ovie taking 5 min to illustrate his point; and if an ovie did take 5 min, you would be much better off having an extra drone mining for several second since the build time of the ovie would give you plenty of time to get to 3 larva by the time he pops out. You can't get those extra 2 drones in his example since you are supply blocked at 10 food.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
March 07 2012 17:37 GMT
#69
NesTea changed from 10 over to 9 over. He must know it :D
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