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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-02 05:38:28
January 02 2015 05:37 GMT
#41
On January 02 2015 14:34 SidianTheBard wrote:
I'm sorry, but if they are going to do the whole "equal" distance 3rds, I'd rather then just bring Whirlwind back. Congrats on getting in the GSL map pool, but unfortunately I just don't really like this map at all. :\

I agree that it's boring, but it's not just equal distance, that's actually perfectly fine and a solid pillar of 4p maps. The problem is the designs of both 3rds are also the same, there's no difference in the considerations you have to make for either one. You can have substantially different 3rd bases that are equally far away, no problem. It's Siamese 3rd's like this that are the problem.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Phaenoman
Profile Joined February 2013
568 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-02 08:42:27
January 02 2015 08:40 GMT
#42
Tho the same map, at least it looks very clean. Here is a suggestion @ IeZaeL:

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Make the path behind the bases (12, 3, 6, 9 o'clock) have natural cliffs (not manmade) and adjust the texturing there a little.
Random is hard work dude...
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
January 02 2015 10:07 GMT
#43
On January 02 2015 12:02 ATTx wrote:
hahaha

good design lol


haha thanks , just let me do some polishing changes ( falling towers leave a hole where units can pass btw ) and I'll send you everything.

On January 02 2015 17:40 Phaenoman wrote:
Tho the same map, at least it looks very clean. Here is a suggestion @ IeZaeL:

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[image loading]
Make the path behind the bases (12, 3, 6, 9 o'clock) have natural cliffs (not manmade) and adjust the texturing there a little.


Yep on it
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
January 02 2015 18:54 GMT
#44
On December 31 2014 20:54 algue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 20:28 Arceus wrote:
Sure Korean maps are not always auto-awesome, but are foreign representatives aka Deadwing, Nimbus, Catallena, any better though? Same free n easy bases everywhere + huge huge layout recipe. Meanwhile the remotely different map in Foxtrot is despised and vetoed everywhere. Vote results of TLMC said everything:you guys just simply dont like interesting maps


The thing is that on the custom maps section of teamliquid.net, all the regular posters were praising Foxtrot while hating on DeadWing and having mixed feelings about Nimbus and Catallena. However we were vastly outnumbered during the TLMC by those who never opened the map editor and voted for a map just because the textures looked cool or it was a 3p map or "lmao 20 bases, I love me some more bases. DAE Alterzim stronghold ? xDD"
Sure foreign map aren't auto awesome but "our" TLMC and other map making contests are open to koreans while we can't even try to get our maps in the GSL (and let's not talk about trying to get them into Pro League)

"Vote results of TLMC said everything:you guys just simply dont like interesting maps"
This sentence would be true if you posted it on the "New WCS 2015 Season 1 maps" thread in the Sc2 general forum or on reddit.


I remember reading about the process that was used in BW to decide on maps. It seemed to be a congress of stakeholders getting together and debating until a choice was made. KeSPA, teams, players, map makers etc. There's no doubt that mistakes-were-made™ but there's also no doubt that the map pool was much more varied even using a much more restrictive tool.

Honestly I think it would be great to have an alternative set of maps being pushed by a concerned group of TL map makers. Maybe you need to have made a map of a certain quality to have your vote count or something...

I dunno, but I really like the idea of more creative map possibilities.
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
January 02 2015 20:32 GMT
#45
I present you the very first 3-man made starcraft2 map , by the mighty trio ATTx , IeZaeL , Uvantak

GSL New Iron Fortress
( Thats right , gsl changed the name )

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Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-02 20:35:18
January 02 2015 20:34 GMT
#46
On January 03 2015 05:32 IeZaeL wrote:
I present you the very first 3-man made starcraft2 map , by the mighty trio ATTx , IeZaeL , Uvantak

GSL New Iron Fortress
( Thats right , gsl changed the name )

+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler [aesthetics] +
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That looks much better and now has a better name! I'm glad this became a team effort.
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Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
January 02 2015 20:52 GMT
#47
looks like modified version of outboxer?
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Semmo
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)627 Posts
January 02 2015 21:18 GMT
#48
Wait, GSL agreed on using your version?
Mapmaker of Frost, Fruitland and Bridgehead
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 02 2015 21:23 GMT
#49
On January 03 2015 06:18 Semmo wrote:
Wait, GSL agreed on using your version?

Not yet.
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IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
January 02 2015 21:26 GMT
#50
On January 03 2015 06:18 Semmo wrote:
Wait, GSL agreed on using your version?

Well not really as I cant find a way to contact them I just hope they will though.
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4520 Posts
January 02 2015 22:32 GMT
#51
IS this cross only?
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Semmo
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)627 Posts
January 02 2015 22:43 GMT
#52
On January 03 2015 07:32 Liquid`Ret wrote:
IS this cross only?


nope
Mapmaker of Frost, Fruitland and Bridgehead
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-02 23:44:54
January 02 2015 23:44 GMT
#53
I think it looks awesome.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
January 03 2015 00:33 GMT
#54
IF this is being used in WCS can we expect to see it on the ladder?
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-03 06:41:35
January 03 2015 00:45 GMT
#55
On January 03 2015 09:33 magnaflow wrote:
IF this is being used in WCS can we expect to see it on the ladder?

Hopefully it replaces one of the planned blizz maps, it's better than all 3 of them.

Edit:
On January 03 2015 05:32 IeZaeL wrote:
I present you the very first 3-man made starcraft2 map , by the mighty trio ATTx , IeZaeL , Uvantak

Are you so sure about that? In fact you of all people should know, lol.

Also I present to you a 5-man starcraft 2 map, by the mighty quintet NullCurrent, Johanaz, Meltage, Mereel, and Lefix.
vibeo gane,
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
January 03 2015 04:08 GMT
#56
Sick I love the horde symbol in the center lol
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Xenotolerance
Profile Joined November 2012
United States464 Posts
January 03 2015 06:13 GMT
#57
Suddenly it's A+. The name change and the visual update make such a difference. Instead of feeling like a boring bland map, it's an elemental layout - sort of a new way to be standard.

brandiiing
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IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
January 03 2015 12:23 GMT
#58
Sent the map to ATTx. Now we cant do anything , just hope it will reach someone at GSL.
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-03 12:54:30
January 03 2015 12:45 GMT
#59
I'm surprised no one complained about this : the thirds can be sieged from the other side of the gap between the pods. It seems that it's a big deal since it was one of the reasons why close position was removed on Deadwing.
rly ?
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
January 03 2015 13:00 GMT
#60
On January 03 2015 21:45 algue wrote:
I'm surprised no one complained about this : the thirds can be sieged from the other side of the gap between the pods. It seems that it's a big deal since it was one of the reasons why close position was removed on Deadwing.

I guess it has to do with the fact that the bases are pretty close and the ramps are much closer to what they are on deadwing. Plus deadwing had rocks to abuse that lowground path.
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
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