On January 28 2005 02:31 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Holy crap that was boring. The actual game was decent with these two guys throwing mass units at each other, but the 2 extra hours where nothing really happend except Dunaj doing the same tricks over and over again .. ugh.

on the contrary, i thought the game was insanely boring up until both players realised that they couldnt throw mass units at each other anymore.

Famouzze

971 Posts

January 27 2005 21:21 GMT

#43

this game annoyed me because blackmaster totally threw the game away, he could've killed dunaj's base so easily then he ran back to his own for some reason and just sat there for an hour, wtf??

raidern_br

Brazil612 Posts

January 27 2005 22:26 GMT

#44

blackmaster said that sometimes in the game he alt tabed and went away for a long time
lol

i dont want to watch some 3hours game hehe

Liquid`Nazgul

22427 Posts

January 28 2005 01:42 GMT

#45

I have enormous respect for the way Dunaj handled this situation. His creativity was simply amazing and only very few people could have displayed what he did here when being put in the same situation.

He did it well and did it with style. I don't mind the replay length so much, at x4 I found it very entertaining (usually I watch replays at x2).

Patriot.dlk

Sweden5462 Posts

January 28 2005 04:25 GMT

#46

I agree with naz. Even though they both could been smarter like TreK pointed out.

vaj

Germany327 Posts

January 28 2005 06:47 GMT

#47

--- Nuked ---

InToTheWannaB

United States4770 Posts

January 28 2005 15:12 GMT

#48

Games like that are what makes BWs hands down the greatest RTS game of all time. That dude recalled, mind controled, and recalled the units back so fast you could hardly see it sometimes. P

Empyrean

17046 Posts

January 29 2005 00:17 GMT

#49

I've only had one draw game, and it was a 1.5 hour long on Bifrost ZvT. I consumed lots of Overlords and Plagued, and while I was waiting for Broodling to finish I'd grab a book and start reading

I won the game by the way.

NuclearAntelope

United States1369 Posts

January 29 2005 00:28 GMT

#50

i get memories of nazgul's draw game vs hellghost when watching this rep

Bill307

Canada9103 Posts

January 29 2005 02:31 GMT

#51

Holy shit.

First of all, Dunaj deserves a great deal of respect for showing the spirit of a true gamer and fighting to win right until the end, rather than giving up because it was a tedious or slow process

. Blackmaster also deserves some respect for not TOTALLY going afk or abandoning the game. The end result: a fantastic and one-of-a-kind replay.

That said, many of Dunaj's tricks were simply stunning. And chances are, he came up with most of them right there, on the spot. That takes real creative genius

. I was totally expecting the game to end in a draw, but as Dunaj started stealing units and then using hallucination to kill cannons off one by one, I realized that he could actually win this O_O. And he did

.

At least Blackmaster didn't totally give the game away: he used some tricks of his own that forced Dunaj to be very meticulous with his unit contrrol and to come up with even more brilliant strategies.

Trek's comments apply very well to Blackmaster: he continued making goons and zealots for a long time, whereas Dunaj realized much earlier that the game was headed for a no-mineral situation and consequently he was making almost entirely HTs while Blackmaster was still using zeal/goon.

In my opinion, this replay illustrates the most beautiful part of Brood War: the highly creative use of units and strategies to win, played out in realtime.

SoL.Origin

Argentina2400 Posts

January 29 2005 15:46 GMT

#52

i wasnt gonna watch this but then i read about the recall+mind control thing... sigh now ill watch a 3 hour long rep... wish me luck rofl

btw maybe the recall+mc thing and boxer's tank+scv move vs pusan should be included in pp2005?

NeverTheEndlessWiz

Singapore827 Posts

January 29 2005 17:39 GMT

#53

lol i wondered if they really took breaks in between the game to rethink their strats + rest

HowitZer

United States1610 Posts

January 31 2005 12:55 GMT

#54

In the old ums map quickthink I used to be protoss and mind control an scv and then recall it out to get another 200 units of terran. Seeing that same strat used in a real melee game was pretty cool.

Resonate

United Kingdom8402 Posts

January 31 2005 17:03 GMT

#55

watched the entire thing at x16, but worth it!!!

FalliNinLove

Slovakia865 Posts

February 04 2005 04:20 GMT

#56

Respect , i really tought it was impossible to win that... really good patience creativity and skills
I think he killed like 100 units in supply without loozing simle unit and gaining some :D... finally some really nice skills

A3iL3r0n

United States2196 Posts

March 04 2005 11:50 GMT

#57

Dunaj could've won early on, twice. Yeah of course I can see that Blackmaster has a low unit count, but the first two battles Dunaj won handily, then he doesn't kill off an expo, and just retreats...

IronCross

Netherlands15 Posts

April 08 2005 18:45 GMT

#58

o m g this replay is very very long^^

Yenku

United States6 Posts

April 20 2005 08:10 GMT

#59

Dunaj is good, but did you know the other player was afk towards the end of the game? For minutes at a time.

Lol, I have a friend with the last name dunaj from poland.

Ekii

Poland346 Posts

November 25 2005 20:34 GMT

#60

200minutes , Gosh!