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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On May 06 2008 06:15 Louder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2008 05:53 {88}iNcontroL wrote:love the smack talking  Anyone that says anyone at this level is going to get "rolled" is fucking stupid though. Anyone up here can beat anyone. Like I said earlier, if Dreiven vs Mondragon is any indicator it's that no match is a free win. And I say that looking at a Zerg that went 44-1 on the ladder ZvP. White-Ra will be tough and could win sure. But to say he will roll IdrA is essentially saying "Hey I am a moron speculating on shit I have no idea about! Look at me!" so dont, unless you really are a sadist. Hah. Well said. People are just being fans though.. nothing wrong with that. I'm sure it feels great to these players to have that kind of support.
I dunno. Without personal interaction it's hard to give people the benefit of the doubt. Having frequented gg.net/wgt/tl.net for years I can tell you people over generalize or post extreme opinions all the time. I dont think it is an established mentality that these players are on relatively equal playing fields for the general poster. Hence my argument. Be a fan sure but be a respectful / level headed human being when you know these guys are going to read these comments.
Take it for what it is though. Like I said in my original post: if you are ok with being a flamboyant ignoramous than by all means continue (the "you" was preverbial not literal).
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Oh my gud. Cant understand it, eiter mondragon or dreiven is out after the first round here. TT. I have to say i am hoping for an upset win by dreiven. He has the most awesome P ever  Specially his P-Z i love, but Mondragon is awesome. Will be amazing games i thing. =)
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United States11393 Posts
On May 06 2008 00:14 iG.ClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2008 23:41 IdrA wrote:
just cuz he rolled you doesnt mean everyone else is a freewin for him too. well but i cant really see white-ra beating him atm
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On May 06 2008 06:21 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2008 06:15 Louder wrote:On May 06 2008 05:53 {88}iNcontroL wrote:love the smack talking Anyone that says anyone at this level is going to get "rolled" is fucking stupid though. Anyone up here can beat anyone. Like I said earlier, if Dreiven vs Mondragon is any indicator it's that no match is a free win. And I say that looking at a Zerg that went 44-1 on the ladder ZvP. White-Ra will be tough and could win sure. But to say he will roll IdrA is essentially saying "Hey I am a moron speculating on shit I have no idea about! Look at me!" so dont, unless you really are a sadist. Hah. Well said. People are just being fans though.. nothing wrong with that. I'm sure it feels great to these players to have that kind of support. I dunno. Without personal interaction it's hard to give people the benefit of the doubt. Having frequented gg.net/wgt/tl.net for years I can tell you people over generalize or post extreme opinions all the time. I dont think it is an established mentality that these players are on relatively equal playing fields for the general poster. Hence my argument. Be a fan sure but be a respectful / level headed human being when you know these guys are going to read these comments. Take it for what it is though. Like I said in my original post: if you are ok with being a flamboyant ignoramous than by all means continue (the "you" was preverbial not literal).
yeah.....basically you are right, but first of all, i dislike idra and like white_ra, so yeah, i simply don't want to analyse this match without being biased! and from my point of view you are a little bit exaggerating, i don't think that even one of the players mentioned even gives a damn shi* about any comment some random guys make here (like me) - and if they do, they really shouldn't :D !
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If it's single elimination, I think it should at least be bo5. Bo3 is kind of a very quick exit for all the time they had to put to get there.
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Aren't all the other rounds Bo5? Why do so many feel they have to critique every detail? Is there one part of TSL that someone hasn't complained about yet? It's just going to be awesome. Sit back and soak it up.
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Braavos36390 Posts
On May 06 2008 08:30 Samejima wrote:
If it's single elimination, I think it should at least be bo5. Bo3 is kind of a very quick exit for all the time they had to put to get there.
Should OSL be Bo55 then, because their stakes are about 10x ours.
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"B1 Retired_Draco < Bo3 > G2 MYM.Strelok
E1 MYM.White-Ra < Bo3 > D2 Idra[Media]"
wow, what a bracket.. whoever makes it out of there will easily win the entire thing.
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On May 06 2008 10:02 Senx wrote:
"B1 Retired_Draco < Bo3 > G2 MYM.Strelok
E1 MYM.White-Ra < Bo3 > D2 Idra[Media]"
wow, what a bracket.. whoever makes it out of there will easily win the entire thing.
I don't think there are no easy wins for anyone in this RO16!
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On May 06 2008 06:21 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2008 06:15 Louder wrote:On May 06 2008 05:53 {88}iNcontroL wrote:love the smack talking Anyone that says anyone at this level is going to get "rolled" is fucking stupid though. Anyone up here can beat anyone. Like I said earlier, if Dreiven vs Mondragon is any indicator it's that no match is a free win. And I say that looking at a Zerg that went 44-1 on the ladder ZvP. White-Ra will be tough and could win sure. But to say he will roll IdrA is essentially saying "Hey I am a moron speculating on shit I have no idea about! Look at me!" so dont, unless you really are a sadist. Hah. Well said. People are just being fans though.. nothing wrong with that. I'm sure it feels great to these players to have that kind of support. I dunno. Without personal interaction it's hard to give people the benefit of the doubt. Having frequented gg.net/wgt/tl.net for years I can tell you people over generalize or post extreme opinions all the time. I dont think it is an established mentality that these players are on relatively equal playing fields for the general poster. Hence my argument. Be a fan sure but be a respectful / level headed human being when you know these guys are going to read these comments. Take it for what it is though. Like I said in my original post: if you are ok with being a flamboyant ignoramous than by all means continue (the "you" was preverbial not literal).
lots of posts on this forum is just showing a general tendency in human nature
e.g. we give causes and analyze bo1 or bo3 wins in osl/msl to death, giving many after-the-fact explanations for why it happened, while we probably dont have a clue.
somebody got to win a match, but good chance it does not have anything to do with 'bonjwa story' 'osl curse' or other explanations that we like to give : )
humans will be humans, and fans will be fans : )
we like to think we know what we are talking about
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
alright case and point
Someone wanna interpret what blue said?
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On May 06 2008 11:55 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
alright case and point
Someone wanna interpret what blue said?
even though the players may have similar skill level, we prefer to think someone outskill another instead of outluck him
e.g. we dont want to believe that the 'bonjwa stories' are due to lucky streaks
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On May 06 2008 07:00 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2008 00:14 iG.ClouD wrote:On May 05 2008 23:41 IdrA wrote:
just cuz he rolled you doesnt mean everyone else is a freewin for him too. well but i cant really see white-ra beating him atm
lool
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I think hes saying mob mentality / fanboyism is human nature? =o
just because "fans" of a sport think they know what they're talking about doesn't mean they should ignore reason and common sense and make completely dumb comments.
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On May 06 2008 11:29 Blue wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2008 06:21 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On May 06 2008 06:15 Louder wrote:On May 06 2008 05:53 {88}iNcontroL wrote:love the smack talking Anyone that says anyone at this level is going to get "rolled" is fucking stupid though. Anyone up here can beat anyone. Like I said earlier, if Dreiven vs Mondragon is any indicator it's that no match is a free win. And I say that looking at a Zerg that went 44-1 on the ladder ZvP. White-Ra will be tough and could win sure. But to say he will roll IdrA is essentially saying "Hey I am a moron speculating on shit I have no idea about! Look at me!" so dont, unless you really are a sadist. Hah. Well said. People are just being fans though.. nothing wrong with that. I'm sure it feels great to these players to have that kind of support. I dunno. Without personal interaction it's hard to give people the benefit of the doubt. Having frequented gg.net/wgt/tl.net for years I can tell you people over generalize or post extreme opinions all the time. I dont think it is an established mentality that these players are on relatively equal playing fields for the general poster. Hence my argument. Be a fan sure but be a respectful / level headed human being when you know these guys are going to read these comments. Take it for what it is though. Like I said in my original post: if you are ok with being a flamboyant ignoramous than by all means continue (the "you" was preverbial not literal). lots of posts on this forum is just showing a general tendency in human nature e.g. we give causes and analyze bo1 or bo3 wins in osl/msl to death, giving many after-the-fact explanations for why it happened, while we probably dont have a clue. somebody got to win a match, but good chance it does not have anything to do with 'bonjwa story' 'osl curse' or other explanations that we like to give : ) humans will be humans, and fans will be fans : ) we like to think we know what we are talking about
Well essentially this is the language of the lower life form known as "retard" they speak a mystic tongue only understandable by those who were born "retarded" or who have studied it.
Luckily I am one of those two. The general and very rough translation of this is *I am spewing shit* remeber that is pretty rough.
Btw what is happening with group C has it been finished but not posted yet? I am so confused!
>.<
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On May 06 2008 12:21 Sp1ralArch1tect wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2008 11:29 Blue wrote:On May 06 2008 06:21 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On May 06 2008 06:15 Louder wrote:On May 06 2008 05:53 {88}iNcontroL wrote:love the smack talking Anyone that says anyone at this level is going to get "rolled" is fucking stupid though. Anyone up here can beat anyone. Like I said earlier, if Dreiven vs Mondragon is any indicator it's that no match is a free win. And I say that looking at a Zerg that went 44-1 on the ladder ZvP. White-Ra will be tough and could win sure. But to say he will roll IdrA is essentially saying "Hey I am a moron speculating on shit I have no idea about! Look at me!" so dont, unless you really are a sadist. Hah. Well said. People are just being fans though.. nothing wrong with that. I'm sure it feels great to these players to have that kind of support. I dunno. Without personal interaction it's hard to give people the benefit of the doubt. Having frequented gg.net/wgt/tl.net for years I can tell you people over generalize or post extreme opinions all the time. I dont think it is an established mentality that these players are on relatively equal playing fields for the general poster. Hence my argument. Be a fan sure but be a respectful / level headed human being when you know these guys are going to read these comments. Take it for what it is though. Like I said in my original post: if you are ok with being a flamboyant ignoramous than by all means continue (the "you" was preverbial not literal). lots of posts on this forum is just showing a general tendency in human nature e.g. we give causes and analyze bo1 or bo3 wins in osl/msl to death, giving many after-the-fact explanations for why it happened, while we probably dont have a clue. somebody got to win a match, but good chance it does not have anything to do with 'bonjwa story' 'osl curse' or other explanations that we like to give : ) humans will be humans, and fans will be fans : ) we like to think we know what we are talking about Well essentially this is the language of the lower life form known as "retard" they speak a mystic tongue only understandable by those who were born "retarded" or who have studied it. Luckily I am one of those two. The general and very rough translation of this is *I am spewing shit* remeber that is pretty rough. Btw what is happening with group C has it been finished but not posted yet? I am so confused! >.<
sorry. spewing shit is wrong
try again. know u can do it if u put some effort to it : )
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The quality of the matchup is so good. A lot of the matches can be the TSL's grand final.
ToT)Mondragon( vs MYM.Dreiven
Excello.IefNaij vs ToT)ClouD(
Draco vs MYM.Strelok
White-Ra vs Idra[Media]
Would be nice if both USA players weren't on the same side of the brackets. If Idra plays like how he played in the R1 then it could be a Mondragon vs Idra grand finals. Mondragon could lose to RoX.BRAT_OK since ZvT is the best chance to beat Mondragon. Then we can have a TvT finals against Idra where another Russian wins Teamliquid tourney. Idra's TvP is like a rock, its so solid. Another possible final is Mondragon vs Draco. Draco must be extremely good in pvp given the amount of protoss on TSL ladder & he is ranked #2. There are a few other names I don't follow so it is hard for me to judge the rest.
At this level, almost can anyone can beat anyone. The biggest favorite is Mondragon, the returning warrior is Draco, and the hidden card is Idra.
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Hungary11305 Posts
Oh look, there is a new countdown!
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when do we find out about the sponsors and whatnot?
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