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[Interview] ToT)Mondragon( - Page 3

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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
April 04 2008 02:39 GMT
#41
On a semi-related note, & just plain common sense.

There's times where you don't play yourself so you say you play badly.

Then there's times you play your average game and you shouldn't say anything.
Your average game should be among your best games though so it shouldn't be something excusable.

i.e. I played extremely badly vs Sen in that showmatch I got crushed and that certainly wasn't my average game. However I played my average game against Draco in PGL when I got both outsmarted and outplayed.

The only thing is, it may be the truth, but it comes off to others as a bad sport. However almost any honest person in that position if asked would say the same if they felt it were true.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
April 04 2008 02:43 GMT
#42
ahh well sometimes you lose a game and think "i did everything i could" and sometimes you lose a game and think "i made a lot more mistakes than usual" ... sometimes players make intelligent decisions and one just comes up short and other times a player makes plainly incorrect decisions ... if you agree with me that there are these different kinds of games, and different kinds of losses, then in this case, im just saying it was one kind of loss and not the other. no disrespect to mondragon and im not implying that if i "play my best" that i'd automatically win.

maybe i've made a lot of these comments but i guess it's because i have horrible consistency. most of my losses fall into the category of "i made a lot more mistakes than usual" rather than "i did all i could and my opponent did something better". in my opinion, the only reason i've won more things and gotten more famous and recognized as a good player recently, is because i've improved my consistency. my micro, macro, multitask and strategy in my best games nowadays are not that much better than my best games from over a year ago. it's just that now im much more consistent and have been able to do my best when im in a "must-win" situation. so that has been my perspective for a long time, to improve consistency, and there is no foreigner to look up to better than mondragon in that respect ^.^ nobody has a bad game vs mondragon and wins
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
April 04 2008 02:43 GMT
#43
On April 04 2008 11:23 Hot_Bid wrote:
Every single truly competitive player, when they lose, believes they could have played better. Its the mark of someone who truly believes in himself and thinks he can win. Saying "I played badly" or "I can play better" is far different a reason for losing than "my hands were cold" or "it was laggy." One of these reasons put the blame and ability to affect change squarely in the players' hands; the other puts the loss on external factors that the player has no control over.

In a way, saying "I played badly" is the antithesis of excuse--it's assuming and internalizing more responsibility. What do you expect him to say, "I played my absolute greatest and there's no way I can beat Mondragon no matter how hard I try."

I'd much rather players believe they could beat each other than admit they have no chance.



No remark is every really innocent, it is often suggestive.

Even if he meant it in a benign sense, his comment still has implications. By publicly making a statement, one could argue that he has the intent of being suggestive.

It was far from improper, but it is no singular incident. I stand by my views.

Similarly my comment could be misconstrued, though it is merely an observation and a emotional response to his words. However by responding in a public forum, you could say I'm being suggestive.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
April 04 2008 02:55 GMT
#44
yay mondi.
joohyunee
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Korea (South)1087 Posts
April 04 2008 03:09 GMT
#45
On April 04 2008 02:43 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
I got in my own questions! + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


LOL I ASKED HIM THE SAME QUESTION TODAY
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 03:13:48
April 04 2008 03:12 GMT
#46
On April 04 2008 11:43 NonY[rC] wrote:
blah blah no disrespect to mondragon blah blah micro, macro, multitask and strategy blah blah


That's nice and all but us, the public, would like more replays prz!
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
April 04 2008 04:20 GMT
#47
Nony vs Mondragon MOTC Finals

rooting for nony, the underdog here
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
April 04 2008 04:23 GMT
#48
On April 04 2008 12:09 joohyunee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2008 02:43 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
I got in my own questions! + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


LOL I ASKED HIM THE SAME QUESTION TODAY


yeah but did you get an answer? LOL he was pretty active in the channel today and kinda funny especially when he was making fun of Testie for not gaming yet
BooBoogers
Profile Joined March 2007
United States229 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 05:35:05
April 04 2008 05:34 GMT
#49
Testie are you playing in this ladder?
Hmmm.....??
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 07:00:47
April 04 2008 07:00 GMT
#50
anyone check his profile? like 90% of his games are zvsz T_T
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
April 04 2008 08:09 GMT
#51
I always felt saying something like "he did not let up" carries just as much implications of "damn, I got cut to pieces -.-" even if you state earlier disappointing play as it does "aaah, I could take him if I didn't screw XYZ* up".

Mondragon looks on form and angry, so this will be an exciting event all around.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 08:11:11
April 04 2008 08:09 GMT
#52
I made mistakes is not a bad thing, Firstprobe you are overly critical.

Of course he played lesser than his "peak". He had reavers shagging themselves without moving around and stuff. Mistakes happen, people screw up and what he meant was exactly what he said, he "made a lot more mistakes than usual". Stop being so judgemental on him : /. He didn't mean to diss Mondragon (a person who has obviously accomplished a lot more), he just felt pretty dumb that a game he lost because he played worse than what he usually does was posted and gets so many downloads. That's being human. He's got every right to defend himself. And he's pretty hawt on rankings so gogo nony <3.

And why is Testie not playing in this ladder?!!!


On April 04 2008 16:00 We Are Here wrote:
anyone check his profile? like 90% of his games are zvsz T_T


How does one check the profile?
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
April 04 2008 08:49 GMT
#53
ermm you click on their name, it links you to their personal profile, then click on gaming profile(near the top)
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
ionize
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Ireland399 Posts
April 04 2008 09:11 GMT
#54
Nice interview. Thanks alot.
I just love video games, what's your excuse?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 04 2008 10:14 GMT
#55
Mondragon cannot be beaten by Protoss Best of 5 @ anyone who is looking forward to a final of Mondragon vs P :D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
April 04 2008 10:35 GMT
#56
On April 04 2008 19:14 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Mondragon cannot be beaten by Protoss Best of 5 @ anyone who is looking forward to a final of Mondragon vs P :D


Draco perhaps?
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 11:48:02
April 04 2008 11:16 GMT
#57
people can't handle the truth! i rather hear an honest opinion than some bs.

anyways, just enjoy the replay :p

nony beats A2 in motc

so Nony vs Mondragon grandfinal for motc tournament.
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
April 04 2008 12:24 GMT
#58
Mondragon is a cool dude, last time i saw one of his replays must have been 2 years ago. I remember him being one of those amazing gamesense type of players.

Thx for the interview!

grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
April 04 2008 13:24 GMT
#59
On April 04 2008 19:35 Elsi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2008 19:14 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Mondragon cannot be beaten by Protoss Best of 5 @ anyone who is looking forward to a final of Mondragon vs P :D


Draco perhaps?


Maybe when he was at his best, i really doubt he could do it now. I saw some of his PvZ's from TSL and while he did beat the players it was nothing amazing, unless you play amazing you're not gonna beat Mondragon in a BO5.
We make signature, then defense it.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 14:04:19
April 04 2008 14:04 GMT
#60
Nony is 52% hotkeys in the replay Mondragon gave Oo
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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