EPTLiquibition #29 - Nony vs F91
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eatmyshorts5
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IntoTheWow
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hazz
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Carnac
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Dgtl
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
couldnt you have waited like 2 days with this, its such a spoiler looking forward to #29 though (... and to watching the vods of #28, despite knowing the results now..) | ||
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Zoler
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Jonoman92
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This series should be awesome though. It's what I was hoping for. | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5502 Posts
On March 08 2009 08:36 Mooncat wrote: This poll is rather spoilerish. God damn it. Cant you guys wait? Videos arent even up yet gah | ||
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ZoW
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3 Lions
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GinNtoniC
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
I suppose Nony will destory f91 easily | ||
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Zolta
Hungary10 Posts
On March 08 2009 08:30 Carnac wrote: Can't wait two weeks :o | ||
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Clasic
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYY | ||
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Sanity.
United States704 Posts
edit: NonY i believe | ||
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IzaG
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poilord
Germany3252 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
GO NONY!!! | ||
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
On March 08 2009 09:58 Vasoline73 wrote: Huge spoiler... seriously guys? I was waiting on VODs and it hasnt even been a day yet. Oh well. I guess I can look at the results now :/ don't you think considering they got nony to play it's worth it? TL is seriously awesome, in the space of 3 months they get champions like F91, Idra, and Nony to play against one another. not to mention great casters like artosis and chill (<3 you too plexa but i'm sure you're ok with us being excited to have artosis casting) also the added bonus is that if nony can defeat f91 (assuming this isn't a broodsport) then we'll get to see him again in the next liquibition. as far as i know plexa is the main organizer so huge thanks to you man, but also everyone else who is involved in running the streams and doing what it takes behind the scenes to make this stuff happen. sorry for the tl;dr post but i just had a lot to say about this i'm so delighted  | ||
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thunk
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ilistis
United States828 Posts
On March 08 2009 08:30 Carnac wrote: Can't wait two weeks :o what...?two weeks? Oh LORD, MUST WE WAIT FOR SUCH GREATNESS? edit: a big thanks to the tl staff for making this possible!! | ||
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radar14
United States1437 Posts
1) He's comfortable playing different styles and builds, imo pretty important for a long series. 2) He plays unorthodox, which is hard to practice for. 3) His reputation for "all-in" builds and sneaky counterattacks precedes him, putting a lot of pressure on his opponent early game to scout well and play safe. 4) While his own style seems to be hard for others adapt to, he has been great at adapting to the things he sees. e.g. the 9 pool speed against Strelok, double hydra den against JF. Still, Nony is solid and has a good mind for build orders. I expect him to put up a (better) fight, at the very least. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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De4ngus
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
 NonY will win, not a one sided rape of course but he will win convincingly | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
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n.DieJokes
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On March 08 2009 08:33 7mk wrote: oh come on... Im coming home, checking out if the liquibition VODs are up, careful not to get to any thread which would spoil the results of it and then I see this poll... couldnt you have waited like 2 days with this, its such a spoiler looking forward to #29 though (... and to watching the vods of #28, despite knowing the results now..) ya, I agree, I am a little disappointed with TL for this one. edit: the funny thing is I was at a lan today with about 10 people nad one person knew the results and no one else wanted to be spoiled, and now everyone will be. | ||
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pure)3.41
China154 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
On March 08 2009 10:06 a-game wrote: don't you think considering they got nony to play it's worth it? TL is seriously awesome, in the space of 3 months they get champions like F91, Idra, and Nony to play against one another. not to mention great casters like artosis and chill (<3 you too plexa but i'm sure you're ok with us being excited to have artosis casting) also the added bonus is that if nony can defeat f91 (assuming this isn't a broodsport) then we'll get to see him again in the next liquibition. as far as i know plexa is the main organizer so huge thanks to you man, but also everyone else who is involved in running the streams and doing what it takes behind the scenes to make this stuff happen. sorry for the tl;dr post but i just had a lot to say about this i'm so delighted Well, of course I don't deny Teamliquid's badassness. And of course I'm looking forward to the Nony v F91 series... but you know, I was also looking forward to a cool TvZ match where I didn't know the winner. I'm not mad, just saying! | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
F91 is fierce, I wanna see where Nony is at right now this will be a great test. | ||
OneOther
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deepBlu
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Athos
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amish
United States85 Posts
Please? | ||
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ambit!ous1
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De4ngus
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sixghost
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ilbh
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HanN00b
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
 F91 vs Draco or Nony vs Draco would be soooo cool ;] and i think that F91 will take this series 4-3 , god damnit ... why cant it start NOW ?!? | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
They should send a good terran next so its no mirror matchup(although Protoss would be ok too imo) and if Nony had actually beaten f91 they could send mondragon after that to either play nony or whoever else that would be awesome at least but whatever, not really any point in speculating like crazy... ^^The only thing thats certain is that liquibition #29 is gonna kick ass | ||
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Malongo
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TonyL2
England1953 Posts
Should be some good games | ||
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SUSUGAM
United States177 Posts
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Shikyo
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TryThis
Canada1522 Posts
im hoping for a good close tense series | ||
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DanceCommander
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
Personally I wasn't interested in this series anyway, but I imagine some people are pretty pissed off... | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
but I mean its hard to really be "pissed off" cause if it wasnt for TL we wouldnt even have this event we dont have to do anything for...therefore they dont really owe anyone anything | ||
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Yurebis
United States1452 Posts
Nony will wipe the floor with F91. Go Nony! | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On March 09 2009 03:15 Yurebis wrote: Damn spoiler poll. Nony will wipe the floor with F91. Go Nony! I highly doubt it. | ||
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epicdoom
United States489 Posts
CAN'T wait!!!! XDD <3 TL | ||
CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
like... it hasn't even been a whole day yet. lmao | ||
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ZergZoul
Mexico408 Posts
On March 09 2009 04:31 CTStalker wrote: yeah this is a pretty bad spoiler. spoiling the liquibition before the vods are even up in a poll is pretty lame like... it hasn't even been a whole day yet. lmao This. Who was the genius that made the poll that early? | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
/cough | ||
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Gnojfatelob
Belgium216 Posts
Shouldnt this be a broodsport btw? And plz fix the latency issues, rewire the entire network of china if you must. | ||
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1a2a3aGG
United States225 Posts
GoGo NoNy Fighting! 7-0 E_Z | ||
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morfyy
Romania593 Posts
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
Why can't it start now? AND I wonder what Korea has done for Nony.. AND Nony will detroy F91 easily. AND omg best Liquibition series yet! | ||
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FaCE_1
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xxbluejay21
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xxbluejay21
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Carnivorous Sheep
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On March 09 2009 10:15 xxbluejay21 wrote: Next time it should be F91 vs Mondragon Half of TL will throw a tantrum over a ZvZ Liquibition :d | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On March 09 2009 10:15 xxbluejay21 wrote: I think F91 will win. Here's my logic. I think F91's style of play is almost as good as Mondragon's, and Nony lost to Mondragon so bad. That was before Korea.... We'll see what he can pull off now. | ||
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cujo2k
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fearus
China2164 Posts
China Starcraft thanks teamliquid for their stimulas package $$$ | ||
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Pulimuli
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GeLaar
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On March 09 2009 18:57 Pulimuli wrote: If F91 rapes Nony we need to bring either Legend or RushGooN to take him down, i guess PJ would be a good candidate aswell ^_^ Are you serious? Pj is still playing? His kids must be old enough to practice with him by now, and soon they'll overtake him. | ||
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Pulimuli
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Velr
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KnightOfNi
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
Nony has admitted before that JianFei has better Reaver control than he does. However, skill is not decided by reaver control alone. I'm all for China winning nonstop but at the same time, Nony is known for extremely safe, conservative play so who knows how this'll turn out. If Nony is taking part, he is probably going to prepare adequately for this. As I said it's an extremely close one to call but I think I'd guess 4-3 Nony in a pinch. | ||
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errol1001
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Piy
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
Give me one good reason why not to watch this. | ||
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Shauni
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On March 10 2009 05:19 538 wrote: Why would anyone vote "I will not watch this series", unless they... omg... mean it? wth, people? Give me one good reason why not to watch this.I voted I won't watch it because I'm a pessimist | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
but maybe Korea has made Nony the next Bisu without the annoying fanbase | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
gogo NonY~ ![[image loading]](http://photos.state.gov/libraries/usinfo/30145/ejs/USA-Maps-Cover.jpg) | ||
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Loophole
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R3condite
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besseriym
United States42 Posts
I honestly think NonY will take the series, but the wildcard for me is still F91's style of play. I mean, we haven't really seen anything predictable about this guy so far (which has made him fun to watch imo). But, NonY is obviously known for his "safer" style of play, so add that to his short time in Korea and you might have the recipe for Zerg Stew. Either way, I think F91 has played pretty well the last few series and I don't mind watching him play again, especially against NonY. Hats off to TeamLiquid for setting these up, you guys obviously ball outta control. | ||
GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
Everyone knows that nony's learned a ton by being in korea this whole time, but do we know if he's managed to learn enough. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
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Not_Computer
Canada2277 Posts
hahaha................ =\ i really hope i don't miss this one... already missed the last two when i SHOULD have been available | ||
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CoL_Drake
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cgrinker
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MutaDoom
Canada1163 Posts
On March 10 2009 06:30 Mykill wrote: F91>Nony but maybe Korea has made Nony the next Bisu without the annoying fanbase Oh my god, if anything, not the fanbase. I beg. | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
F91 5-2 like the other 2 series. | ||
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heyitsme
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rredtooth
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statix
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On March 10 2009 02:42 Kyo Yuy wrote: Ohh, this is a tough one. Nony has admitted before that JianFei has better Reaver control than he does. However, skill is not decided by reaver control alone. oh really I thought reaver control was the decisive factor in PvZ °_° | ||
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Dromar
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De4ngus
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Rus_Brain
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X_Tr3mem1sT
United States4 Posts
LOL GO!!!!!!!!!!!!! NONY!!! | ||
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shenlong
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Trozz
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Scourges are sniping shuttles...?! Oh god, hydra flank?! Then I remember, I love seeing great Zergs play. Be careful NonY! | ||
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TlStaffMustBeGay
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Piste
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On March 11 2009 12:33 7mk wrote: oh really I thought reaver control was the decisive factor in PvZ °_° Sair/reaver isn't the only viable PvZ strategy. PvZ is an extremely mixed matchup and both sides have quite a few tech options to choose from, especially in the midgame. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 15 2009 03:14 Kyo Yuy wrote: Sair/reaver isn't the only viable PvZ strategy. PvZ is an extremely mixed matchup and both sides have quite a few tech options to choose from, especially in the midgame. I seriously think that you're missing something important here. | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On March 15 2009 04:10 Shikyo wrote: I seriously think that you're missing something important here. Let me guess, you want to tell me that every single PvZ involves Protoss going sair/reaver with absolutely no variance whatsoever. It's a good thing such a brilliant strategic mind as yourself is here to explain how PvZ works. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On March 15 2009 06:59 Kyo Yuy wrote: Let me guess, you want to tell me that every single PvZ involves Protoss going sair/reaver with absolutely no variance whatsoever. It's a good thing such a brilliant strategic mind as yourself is here to explain how PvZ works. "oh really I thought reaver control was the decisive factor in PvZ °_°" He was joking, that's the point you were missing. | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On March 15 2009 07:03 Zoler wrote: "oh really I thought reaver control was the decisive factor in PvZ °_°" He was joking, that's the point you were missing. I can never tell with Shikyo. He may very well be trying to tell me I'm stupid for thinking there are other PvZ strategies besides sair/reaver. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On March 15 2009 07:07 Kyo Yuy wrote: I can never tell with Shikyo. He may very well be trying to tell me I'm stupid for thinking there are other PvZ strategies besides sair/reaver. There's always the possibility Maybe I have gotten it all wrong | ||
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NeVeR
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Shikyo
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On March 15 2009 07:07 Kyo Yuy wrote: I can never tell with Shikyo. He may very well be trying to tell me I'm stupid for thinking there are other PvZ strategies besides sair/reaver. I was never saying anything, I was referring to the other guy. Don't worry, my Starcraft knowledge most likely exceeds yours, so when you think that something I'm saying seems really stupid, you most likely will have to search below the surface. I think that the fact that you thought that he was serious about Sair Reaver being the only possible build speaks volumes about your position to judge me. | ||
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
On March 15 2009 19:53 NeVeR wrote: Uh, is there a date set for this? Is there? I'm not seeing it in the Liquibet. | ||
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Verilan
United States67 Posts
One of the poll options should have been "When the hell does this start exactly?" | ||
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Vex
Ireland454 Posts
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On March 16 2009 07:39 Shikyo wrote: Considering how people have responded to your posts in the SKT vs KTF playoffs thread, I don't really think you have any right to talk.I was never saying anything, I was referring to the other guy. Don't worry, my Starcraft knowledge most likely exceeds yours, so when you think that something I'm saying seems really stupid, you most likely will have to search below the surface. I think that the fact that you thought that he was serious about Sair Reaver being the only possible build speaks volumes about your position to judge me. You've told B- and B players that their strategies and thoughts are outright wrong before, so I don't really know what goes on in your brain ever. You probably do know more about Starcraft than me, but that doesn't change the fact that you say blatantly incorrect things and people have called you out on them. Also, On March 16 2009 20:40 Vex wrote: P imba, nony will win ;P F91 beat JianFei to claim his Liquibition throne. And JF plays... Protoss. F91 is a really good player so I wouldn't count him out. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On March 16 2009 12:20 Verilan wrote: One of the poll options should have been "When the hell does this start exactly?" will start this sunday if im not mistaken On March 16 2009 21:44 Kyo Yuy wrote: Also, F91 beat JianFei to claim his Liquibition throne. And JF plays... Protoss. F91 is a really good player so I wouldn't count him out. Once again you should maybe wait for a second and think, maybe someone writes something while actually not meaning it, a ';P' - smiley for example could be an indication of that. | ||
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TheAZNChineseTiger
Canada92 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On March 17 2009 11:28 TheAZNChineseTiger wrote: does anyone know when the series will be played? dude... one post above yours | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
I would love to see a NonY vs IdRA liquibition as well..but..this will have to do gl hf | ||
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
F91 must win. GogoF91. | ||
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renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
I'm so torn that I don't know who to root for | ||
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pure)3.41
China154 Posts
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Ash
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AtlaS
United States1001 Posts
edit:when is this series anyways? | ||
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shenlong
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f91 is one of the ancient 6 dragons sleeping dormant ;o | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
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forgotten0ne
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
And I also doubt he hacks, seeing as he 9 drone scouts. Or maybe he's being super stealthy and using reverse psychology to overscout to make us all think he isn't hacking! But I doubt it.... Seems legit to me. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On March 19 2009 15:38 forgotten0ne wrote: F91 is gonna win seeing as he maphacks... Anti-hack doesn't work right for me my ass. Seriously, if you don't believe me, watch all of 27 & 28, he always makes the right counters (and the right counters are builds no one in their right mind would go without KNOWING they need to go them) when he NEVER has an OL in the enemy's base. He also always sends the first OL in the right direction (half the time he changes it, and the commentators even comment on that). I'm sorry, but all the signs point to maphack... such bs. ROFLAccusation. Seriously? You're really going to suggest that F91 maphacks? C'mon man. Grow up. JF, IdrA and Strelok lost. Fair and square. I'm looking forward to this one big time (assuming new post will be up in less than 24 hours.) EDIT: If any accusation were to come into fruition of F91 maphacking, I'd name my first born forgotten0ne, spelled exactly like that. | ||
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Racenilatr
United States2756 Posts
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gumbum8
United States721 Posts
On March 19 2009 16:20 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: ROFLAccusation. Seriously? You're really going to suggest that F91 maphacks? C'mon man. Grow up. JF, IdrA and Strelok lost. Fair and square. | ||
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forgotten0ne
United States951 Posts
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
Liquibition is very similar to the name of this Internet world wide web site, www.teamliquid.net If, I may be so bold; might I ask; is, this, a coincidence or was it planned out from the start of the making of this website that in the future it might have competitions named after part of its name because if so wow i think i just uprooted a conspiracy + Show Spoiler + go nony | ||
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Clasic
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
On March 08 2009 12:45 deepBlu wrote: gooo nony!!! rape that chinese zerg/nerd!!!! this | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On March 20 2009 05:02 forgotten0ne wrote: For everyone who thinks I'm completely full of shit, try to change your mindset to be a skeptic, and then go back and watch 27 & 28. You'll catch some pretty suspicious things. I'm also not the only one who thinks so, I'm just the only one with the balls to post it and get flamed. Against JF he basically won through ling run-bys. You don't need maphack to do that. It happens all the time and even progamers get killed by it. Against Strelok he won because Strelok either cheesed and failed(hard to cheese a zerg who 9 drone scout). Or because Strelok made amateur mistakes like not scouting the ovie on python. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On March 20 2009 05:02 forgotten0ne wrote: For everyone who thinks I'm completely full of shit, try to change your mindset to be a skeptic, and then go back and watch 27 & 28. You'll catch some pretty suspicious things. I'm also not the only one who thinks so, I'm just the only one with the balls to post it and get flamed. lol you realize F91 won much more money offline than online? you sound like one of those conspiracy nuts with your "change your mindset to be a skeptic" attitude | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
On March 20 2009 05:02 forgotten0ne wrote: For everyone who thinks I'm completely full of shit, try to change your mindset to be a skeptic, and then go back and watch 27 & 28. You'll catch some pretty suspicious things. I'm also not the only one who thinks so, I'm just the only one with the balls to post it and get flamed. More exact information and not just coincidences please. | ||
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sungohan
United States54 Posts
On March 20 2009 05:02 forgotten0ne wrote: For everyone who thinks I'm completely full of shit, try to change your mindset to be a skeptic, and then go back and watch 27 & 28. You'll catch some pretty suspicious things. I'm also not the only one who thinks so, I'm just the only one with the balls to post it and get flamed. Sad to see that even today some white guys still can't appreciate people from other races to succeed. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On March 08 2009 08:30 Carnac wrote: Can't wait two weeks :o March 8 + 14 = 22, tomorrow? | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
On March 22 2009 04:48 sungohan wrote: Sad to see that even today some white guys still can't appreciate people from other races to succeed. lol, I suppose you have to prove he's white and a racist. | ||
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