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Predicted Proleague Winner? - Page 4

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Norden_Ghostman
Profile Joined June 2008
Norway3 Posts
November 24 2008 14:27 GMT
#61
Free is on fire, i guess he saves woongjing stars for some ace matches :D
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
November 24 2008 15:20 GMT
#62
STX man... playing so damn well recently behind Calm... first to 10 wins.
RIP eSTRO :(
SaftKalasEmil
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden213 Posts
November 24 2008 15:20 GMT
#63
I think samsung or Lecaf is gonna take the prixe,, but i have too keep my dream alive and scream out CJ-Entus all the way!!!!!!!
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #27 SaftKalasEmil.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 24 2008 15:21 GMT
#64
On November 24 2008 20:52 Geo.Rion wrote:
OGN having only 3 votes ot of 400+ right now? man ppl don't use their minds, OGN should be in the top 4. Of course who autovtes Lecaf or Khan it's normal, but if you don't want to vote them u have to take in consideration the current PL standings


Teams severely underrated in this poll are STX and OGN. Teams severely overrated are CJ and "that group of crappy teams" who combined still have zero percent chance of title. I'd say T1 and Lecaf too but there's still plenty of time for these two big-money teams to make changes and solidify their lineups.
Meh
Plovez
Profile Joined June 2007
Russian Federation83 Posts
November 24 2008 16:25 GMT
#65
stx!
Darklight.___.
Profile Joined January 2008
Chile11 Posts
November 24 2008 17:27 GMT
#66
Khan easy..
I mean... (FBH+BCs+Dance)+Stork+Jangbi>PL
-asdasd? -asdasdas!!!!
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 24 2008 17:35 GMT
#67
I cant believe more people arent giving MBC a vote. They have a better chance than CJ, eSTRO, ACE and WeMade imo.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
November 24 2008 18:43 GMT
#68
SKT1 FIGHTING
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
November 24 2008 18:47 GMT
#69
See when i voted i figured this poll was about who I thought was going to win, not who i wanted to win. but looking at SKT in 3rd place and OGN in last, clearly i was wrong.
Free Palestine
Swayze
Profile Joined September 2008
United States17 Posts
November 24 2008 19:30 GMT
#70
AF Ace ftw?
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
November 24 2008 19:32 GMT
#71
So Februarys, who is the second best Terran if it isn't FBH?

I'm just curious because even your own poll disagrees with you. Not to mention the PL rankings even show that FBH is the second highest Terran.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/157_Shinhan_Proleague_08-09/player_stats

But I guess you have some secret reasoning that no one else knows. And it's not blind (anti)fanboyism because that's what you're accusing OneOther of. So what is it?
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
November 24 2008 19:37 GMT
#72
On November 25 2008 03:47 Ideas wrote:
See when i voted i figured this poll was about who I thought was going to win, not who i wanted to win. but looking at SKT in 3rd place and OGN in last, clearly i was wrong.

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R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
November 24 2008 20:12 GMT
#73
woongjin is actually doing pretty well

I was very impressed by their performance the otehr day
ggyo...
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-24 20:56:57
November 24 2008 20:55 GMT
#74
On November 25 2008 04:32 MayorITC wrote:
So Februarys, who is the second best Terran if it isn't FBH?

I'm just curious because even your own poll disagrees with you. Not to mention the PL rankings even show that FBH is the second highest Terran.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/157_Shinhan_Proleague_08-09/player_stats

But I guess you have some secret reasoning that no one else knows. And it's not blind (anti)fanboyism because that's what you're accusing OneOther of. So what is it?


Good proleague stats are not indicative of the 2nd best terran. The 2nd best terran is going to be a bit subjective as well since FBH's TvP is god-awful. Since FBH went nowhere in OSL and basically nowhere in MSL and then winning some proleague matches where the mu's and maps can be pre-determined, doesn't mean he's #2. Fantasy's 2nd place OSL finishing and faltering a bit in proleague proves more than FBH's faltering in MSL and winning some proleague games. #1 and #2 as of now, goes to probably Flash and Fantasy.

FBH is a good #3 though.

Samsung vs. Lecaf ACE
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FBH is a pimp though, he's won my heart after the battle cruisers lololol. Kinda makes me glad i got his autograph while i was in korea
We see things they'll never see
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-24 21:47:04
November 24 2008 21:40 GMT
#75
According to your own logic, Flash shouldn't be first as he did worse than Fantasy in the Starleagues. Plus, I don't see how FBH got nowhere in the MSL when he and Nada were the only Terran players to make it to the RO8 (both got eliminated that round). And further ignorant comments like "FBBH's TvP is god-awful" leads me to believe you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. You're just echoing what you read on the forums. Because if you actually formulated your own conclusions, you'd realize FBH refined his TvP. While he can't beat S-Class PvT players in a BO3 he is able to take down notable P Players in single games, such as Kal recently.

But let's ignore the fact that you're too lazy to look up information. The real fault is that you don't even know the basic premises of the PL and SLs. Starleagues, due to their single elimination format, can produce inaccurate assessments of a player's skills due to irregular variables such as a player having a bad day or being knocked out really early by a S-class player.

The fault of PL statistics is that records have no indication of the quality of the opponents. Thus ZerO who did not play any top-tier players is able to make it to the Top 10 PL rankings. BUT HAV E YOU SEEN FBH'S PL OPPONENTS?

Lomo, Jaedong, Flash, Leta, Best, Free, Kal, Iris. And despite the high quality of his opponents, FBH still manages to be the second highest Terran in PL.

Stop contradicting yourself, stop making up random shit, and stop echoing what you read on the forums without even knowing how valid it is. Until then, don't expect me to take your next post seriously.
Semagdnim
Profile Joined May 2008
United States126 Posts
November 24 2008 23:57 GMT
#76
Khan autovote
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-25 00:52:17
November 25 2008 00:50 GMT
#77
On November 25 2008 00:21 baubo wrote:
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On November 24 2008 20:52 Geo.Rion wrote:
OGN having only 3 votes ot of 400+ right now? man ppl don't use their minds, OGN should be in the top 4. Of course who autovtes Lecaf or Khan it's normal, but if you don't want to vote them u have to take in consideration the current PL standings


Teams severely underrated in this poll are STX and OGN. Teams severely overrated are CJ and "that group of crappy teams" who combined still have zero percent chance of title. I'd say T1 and Lecaf too but there's still plenty of time for these two big-money teams to make changes and solidify their lineups.



No way!

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DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
November 25 2008 01:32 GMT
#78
I really wish someday I will vote estro
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 25 2008 02:17 GMT
#79
Haha, estro, ace, and wemade managed to get quite a few votes.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
November 25 2008 02:29 GMT
#80
Wow Ogn, Stars and Stx got the short end of the stick, who votes for Skt1?
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
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