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Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
March 17 2008 02:30 GMT
#41
Wow, so there's going to be a pro team made up of non kor's?

this is like on par of awesomeness as tasteless going to korea.

And I totally agree with Dissy being top candidate, leading ToT to the top and being the, arguably, best zerg outside of korea.
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MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-17 02:37:51
March 17 2008 02:37 GMT
#42
Androide

instead of hitting players with baseball bats to motivate them, he can attack them with water bottles instead
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
March 17 2008 02:45 GMT
#43
actually i agree with nony. testie has the best gamesense out of any foreigner i think, and has mastery of all three races. those types of things help a leader of a team a lot.

voted testie
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MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
March 17 2008 03:05 GMT
#44
I agree with the comment above, but same could be said about Mondi. I've seen Mondi play some games with PATHETIC apm but pull it off all because of very well timed attacks and forward thinking. When I watch Mondi's games I always get a feeling that he's thinking a lot. This is the same feeling that I get from Legionnaire's games. These guys may not have the same mechanics as the Korean pros, but they're very capable strategically. We saw what improving mechanics did for Legionnaire. Perhaps Mondi can do the same? (in fact Legionnaire had EXACTLY the same, if not lower, apm before he went to Korea as Mondi does now)

BUT YES! THIS IDEA OF A FOREIGN TEAM??? I bet ACE is cheering... "yeeeey we don't have to come last every time! yaaaaaaaaaay!" I voted Mondragon as captain.

P.S. To all the people bagging "Arrogance". The Australia team had more arrogant players than you can shake a stick at. But it's because of this arrogance that Australia became top 5 in the world... all of it's players cared and played passionatelly for their country and their spot in the team... now nobody gives a shit.. but hey.. at least we have better manner????
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
March 17 2008 03:48 GMT
#45
THE SUPER LOLOLOL

Mondragon is a good choice obviously, hes also proven as a long time leader of ToT.
Personally Id nominate ret or MidiaN as they know what they're talking about gauging other players skills. However I dont know how active they are in the community now. Also Im not sure how they would do as "leaders", or "captain", as that requires more responsibility than necessarily picking the best players.
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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
March 17 2008 03:49 GMT
#46
Oh here's a pic that seems like its from left field... Artosis
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5536 Posts
March 17 2008 04:04 GMT
#47
I actually think artosis would do well.

lol @ ace being happy ;p
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Dahlia...
Profile Joined September 2005
United States409 Posts
March 17 2008 04:06 GMT
#48
no

XiaoZi
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
March 17 2008 04:22 GMT
#49
Mondi ez
w/e
HotZhot
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Colombia677 Posts
March 17 2008 04:26 GMT
#50
Mondragon for the win.

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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-17 05:09:24
March 17 2008 05:08 GMT
#51
If draco isnt on the team my heart will be broken

draco in his prime had probably the best macro of any foreigner

it would be nice to see again
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5536 Posts
March 17 2008 05:29 GMT
#52
On March 17 2008 14:08 fusionsdf wrote:
If draco isnt on the team my heart will be broken

draco in his prime had probably the best macro of any foreigner

it would be nice to see again

Testie had pretty lethal macro.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 17 2008 05:33 GMT
#53
On March 17 2008 14:29 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2008 14:08 fusionsdf wrote:
If draco isnt on the team my heart will be broken

draco in his prime had probably the best macro of any foreigner

it would be nice to see again

Testie had pretty lethal macro.



yeah

but even in the games vs inter.mind, draco was up by like 20 supply both games....
and its like that pretty much every game he plays. I really think its overlooked
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
March 17 2008 07:46 GMT
#54
I vote Mondragon because his games entertain me the most. But an all foreign team seems silly to me? Now I don't know much about the foreign scene, but it seems like they'd do pretty badly, at least for a good while. I think it would be neater to have more of these "eSTRO challenge" type things, and get more foreigners on pro-teams.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
March 17 2008 08:00 GMT
#55
I voted based on ignorance. alt q q
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
March 17 2008 08:07 GMT
#56
Whats really the title of the captain? Picking the rest of the team? Making sure his team trains? Telling his teammates there weakness? I guess out of those choices Mondi... but really who knows
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ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
March 17 2008 09:07 GMT
#57
Mondy.
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
March 17 2008 10:33 GMT
#58
obviously this is a trivia question and you're supposed to pick the oldest one
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YesStorY
Profile Joined March 2008
Czech Republic3 Posts
March 17 2008 11:33 GMT
#59
I think its as broad as long who should be captain actualy... main is the entire list of players, if there will be some non-korean proleague team =)
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13426 Posts
March 17 2008 11:45 GMT
#60
I have jury duty on the 31st. T_T

Carry On.

Oh and I guess Mondragon since he has a lot of experience running ToT.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
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